Woman says Bush raped her and she dies

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I don’t know where this needs to be. So, I guess I’ll start it here and maybe it’ll be okay. First off, if I’m being whooshed, would somebody please tell me straight up cause this shit ain’t funny if it’s true. I have apparently had my head up my ass regarding this story so if y’all would be so kind to set me straight I’d appreciate it. Also, I did a search on the boards for this and had no luck. So, I’m going to post it and take my lumps if I have any coming. :confused:

I remember thinking last year when I heard that a woman was claiming President Bush raped her some years ago. I thought then, “Who knows, if they were both drinking and partying etc… I kinda dismissed it and figured it’d go away, one way or another.”

I know most of y’all have probably hashed this out months ago, but I somehow totally missed the end of the story. The woman is dead. She died of a gunshot wound to the head. It was ruled a suicide. This is very disturbing to me. I know I’m not exactly a Bush fan and I like to bash the SOB when I can. But this incident (if true) somebody please prove it is NOT true As much as I don’t like the Bush dynasty, this seems too blatant even for them.

MARGIE D SCHOEDINGER was the woman who filed rape charges against President Bush last year.

Paper: Houston Chronicle Date: Saturday 09/27/03
SCHOEDINGER
MARGIE D. SCHOEDINGER expired Monday, 9/22/03 . Visitation: Friday, 9/26/03 , 7 to 9pm, McCoy & Harrison Chapel. Funeral Service: Saturday, 9/27/03 , 1:30pm, McCoy & Harrison Chapel. Interment, Houston Memorial Gardens.

http://www.fortbendstar.com/Archives/2003_4q/122403/n_Woman%20who%20filed%20lawsuit%20found%20dead.htm

There are plenty more sources put there. But strangely the original articles are no longer on file at the Houston Chronicle. The database was corrupted according to the results of my inquiry w/ their online search. The more recent article with the “Star” is still there. Several other newspapers no longer have the article available either. Despite the fact that copies of the articles exist at other cites. The originals are not available.

Shit…where’s my tin-foil hat. I afraid that with all the crap he’s pulled I’m starting to believe some of this shit is for real. :eek:

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Isn’t the whole point that you should prove him guilty… not the other way around?

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My question is: Is this story true? Did this happen at all? Not, did GWB do it? If it did happen…then I may wonder about the other. But as it is, another coincidence is going to be one too damned many.

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What happened to her cat?

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Hey, I’m no fan of Bush, but this is incredibly thin.

The source you have there is garbled and confusing. It’s a collection of various unsubstantiated claims in no particular order. The claims of rape, surveillance etc are accompanied by no proof whatsoever. To draw any kind of conclusion from this mess is impossible, let alone a conclusion of some kind of foul play.

  • It appears that this woman made some claims in a lawsuit
  • It appears that this woman is dead.
  • There’s nothing else here.
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That’s it huh? Great

I think I’ll do a little more research in the morning though. I found several other cites but I want to wade through the crap before I post anything more.
Still curious.

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T-Keela, 9:40pm: “A woman filed rape charges against President Bush last year”
T-Keela, 10:21pm: “That’s it huh? Great.”

TK, it’s been a whole 40 minutes since the OP. Chill.

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Well. I’m a proud liberal who makes no excuses about how much I detest and loathe George Bush. However, there are enough real, horrific things he’s done that we can be outraged about. I don’t think it does any good to post accusations without backup research. Personally I prefer to leave that to Matt Drudge and the rest of the rumor mongers.

Left-leaning attorney Sean Carter makes the point that her accusation of multiple rapes and druggings is dubious at best, although he finds it interesting that the media never picked up on the case – unlike, e.g., the accusations made by Paula Jones, Juanita Brodderick et al. against Bill Clinton. Admittedly, they had the financial backing of some heavy hitters to help with publicity, unlike poor Ms. Schoedinger.

Reading her original complaint, I think she seems to have been a tragically disturbed individual; I seem to recall hearing that she made similar accusations about a number of other people in local positions of authority. Sadly, her illness was probably either untreated or untreatable, and – as is the case with far too many schizophrenics or other severely mentally ill people – she may have found suicide the only way to escape her pain.

The accusation of Bush raping our country, OTOH, is all too true.

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Mary Jo: What will we do if I get pregnant?

Ted: Well, cross that bridge when we come to it.

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As far as I can tell, either George Bush repeatedly raped this woman, drugged her and her husband, put her and her house under surveillance by the NSA, connived with a hospital to destroy her records, and had the FBI drug and rape her in order to discredit her, or

a schizophrenic made bizarre accusations against an authority figure and then committed suicide.

Now which would you say is more likely?

If this had happened fifteen years ago, it would have been Satanic ritual abuse in her childhood.

Regards,
Shodan

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It sounds like a terribly tragic tale. Bush would be ripped to shreds in all the media (money or not) if there was anything to it. It appears to be a very sick woman who did this. I’d never heard it before, and it looks like the media did the right thing to keep it low-key. Shit, I hope it isn’t true. Bush sucks. The big one. But as an earlier poster said, there’s no need to invent shit when he’s done such a good job of creating his own.

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I must respectfully disagree with Shodan. The quoted portions of the lawsuit sound like classic paranoid delusional thinking (the continuous rapes by all and sundry, the surveillance, the racist organization behind it all, etc.).

This makes even less sense than the U.S. plot to depopulate Africa via the polio vaccine.

Criminy, isn’t there enough ammo against Bush already without waving this gobbledygook around?

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This all sounds rather similar to the allegations made by Cathy O’Brien and Mark Phillips in their book Trance Formation of America. Not rendering any judgement here; I’m just sayin’.

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I’d be highly suspicious of any woman who told me that Bush had raped her and that she was dead.

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Wasn’t there another (?) woman who said that Bush had multiple sexual relations with her? Seems I recall that she said that during the last sexual relation Bush put her panties in his pocket and left her with a note detailing their relationship, written in his own hand. If I recall the times and places that she said all of this occurred didn’t work out and she lost the handwritten note from the then Governor of Texas.

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The above quote was in reference to this:
lambchops replied,

To that I said…“That’s it huh? Great.” I wasn’t referring to the time. I meant “Great, it’s mostly bullshit and I can forget about it.”
However, I still want to dig a bit more into this. I remember when this first came up. The story went around for a little while. It was supposedly a different George Bush. Then it was the “real” George Bush, he had just had his TxDrLicense# changed, so they were simply mistaken at first. They (she and Bush) had met at a party and were drinking etc. This was the original story. There was nothing ever mentioned about her “mental illness”. After that the story just went away. I figured she’d been compensated and it was over. She was another one of his “drunken one night stands” which he was famous for at one time or so I figured.

As I said in the beginning, I posted this to GET information about this event. I thought perhaps y’all had discussed it before and I simply couldn’t find the thread. Apparently none of you know much about the story either. It does seem that the woman may have had mental problems. It does make more sense that a woman with an obsession for GWB offed herself in desperation. More sense than GWB or some connection to him executing her.
We know Bush’s stance on executions and personal vengence. So, surely he wouldn’t allow anything like this to occur, right? See, I don’t trust the man. I doubt there is ANYTHING he wouldn’t do. Don’t get me wrong. I am NOT saying he did this. But I’m also not going to be naive enough to think him incapable of it. Besides, HE wouldn’t actually have to “be in the loop” for this to occur.
Then again, who knows? I read in one report she was found with an unregistered Glock 9mm. handgun beside her. Not exactly a common pistol among civilians.

Whatever the truth is…
This event is just one more example, like so many other coincidences, that the BUSH family is apparently just unlucky.

NEXT :wink:

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So you think maybe Bush, ah, maybe raped this woman and then maybe – ah, by the way you’re not saying this but, ah, maybe since he’s that type of guy – maybe killed her or had her killed. Sort of like the Uday Hussein? Is that the debate – ah, in a nutshell I mean?

And, ah, if you’re “just trying to get information” - why, ah, is this in Great Debates?

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The linked article states, I think reasonably clearly, that Mrs. Shoedinger had filed suit not just for one alleged rape, but claiming that she (and her husband, apparently) had been raped multiple times, over the course of several years, by George W, Bush. This, if true, would be considerably more difficult to carry out, and to cover up, than a drunken one-nighter. GWB is somehow making dozens of secret trips from Austin or DC to Houston to rape a woman who lives in Sugar Land? And no one has ever noticed all this travel or found anomalies in the man’s schedule? Alternately, the Secret Service, FBI or some other agency is repeatedly abducting women and hauling them off to Austin or DC for GWB to have his way with them? Forgive me if I seem a bit sceptical.

Again, read the description of the material in Trance Formation of America. There appears to be a particular belief, or mania, or what have you that involves the idea of famous political figures repeatedly raping drugged women, which appears to be closely related to claims of alien abduction. Like the abduction stories, however, there is a distinct lack of evidence that any of this exists outside the minds of the abductees.

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Um, yeah, so why isn’t this all over the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and the National Review too, demanding an independent investigation of a very serious charge?

Aw, hell, we all know why. Things are different now, right?

elucidator, we don’t know if the cat is alive or dead, but thanks for pointing that out.

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It should be pointed out that this is at least the second time in recent days that you have floated bizarre conspiracy theories and then backtracked.

From this thread about Nigerian officials banning polio vaccine on the grounds that it was part of a U.S. conspiracy to spread AIDS:

From the current thread:

You really should give this stuff a rest. I know it’s more sexy than unemployment, war and energy policy, but it really doesn’t help in the fight to unseat Bush if his opponents can be portrayed as allies of raving loonies.