Back from L.A., and The Herald

I asked my friend Jerry if he’d like to go to Sacramento with me so that I could pick up the '63 Triumph Herald. (I’d scheduled a transport with Hurst Auto Transport, but after a month they had still not assigned a carrier. I cancelled and decided to get the car myself.) Well, if we’re going that far, why not go down to L.A.?

Jerry, Paul and I left around 11:00 Monday morning and drove straight through, arriving in L.A. around 7:30 Tuesday morning. We went to my old apartment building, and my next door neighbour came out with her black lab Molly. Molly strained at the leash to greet me, and I scratched her head. She barked at my friends. What a sweet dog for remembering me! I had a brief visit with a friend in the corner house, and then we were on our way… somewhere.

We were all tired, and nobody knew where they wanted to go. I drove us down to Marina del Rey, and then up to Santa Monica. We decided we needed to find a hotel, so we checked out TravelLodge on Ocean. $169/night. Right. Let’s look elsewhere. We checked out a place across from McCabe’s, but they had no room. We ended up getting a room at the Super-8 Motel in Downey. Crappy area, but cheap. I got my own room, and the guys got a double. My shower was faulty, and I had to shower in cold water. Bummer.

We headed down to Long Beach to see Jerry’s old stomping grounds, and had breakfast at a little Greek place on 2nd. (I had kebabs.) Time to check out the MGB! We went to Huntington Beach…

The body looks good. Well, the paint does. We saw some rough welds. I saw some sheet metal that was rusted through and that had just been painted over. I (politely enough) pointed it out to Antonio, and he said he could fix it. (Why didn’t he do it right the first time?) Still the body looks great in its new paint, and it is straight and sound.

We went to Irvine to meet Jerry’s ex and son. They wanted some time to discuss things, so Paul and I made ourselves scarce for about 90 minutes. They’d gone somewhere, so I called them. We agreed that we’d meet Jerry later at the motel. In the meantime, I visited the MGB’s engine. Needs pistons, camshaft, oil pump and water pump. We were running out of time, so they’ll send a complete list of what’s to be done and how much it will cost.

Once Jerry showed up at the motel we headed back to my old home. We visited my best friend in the building, and her big yellow lab Sebastian. Did I say ‘big’? BIG! The dog is huge. He was happy to see me, and quickly made friends with my friends. Carol couldn’t go to dinner with us as planned because she gets up at four in the morning, so we went to the courtyard and chatted with my old neighbours (and some that moved in after I’d left). I went to Pam’s apartment and asked if Taz (her pomeranian) could come out to play. Taz is a sweetie. Another (new) neighbour had a seven-week-old bulldog. It sure was cute! (And so was she! :wink: ) My Scottish neighbour Karen came over to say hello. She’s rather hot, and my friends were like, ‘Dude! Why did you leave?’

Once we said our goodbyes, we went to Ye Olde King’s Head for some fish’n’chips. Headed up to the 3rd St. Promenade, but it was deadsville. Off to Hollywood! Actually, we were all pretty beat from the long drive down and the driving around in the L.A. area. Hollywood didn’t look all that interesting, so we just went back to the motel to crash.

The shower was still faulty in the morning. They let me into another room so I could get a hot shower. We checked out the guys were hungry, so we went to a little diner by the motel for breakfast – in spite of the fact that we were on our way to lunch! They couldn’t wait. We met former co-worker Julie, and Jerry’s family, at a Mexican restaurant. I managed to get through two fish tacos, and the guys ate too. And I got caught up on some of the dope going on at my old employer.

Now, this company – or at least this division – has had a habit of spending enormous sums of money on The Latest And Greatest Systems to replace the clunky old mainframe. Each time, they end up tossing the new system and going back to the trusty mainframe. We all thought this was silly, but they kept doing it. Well, a couple of years ago they were going to start using Ascential DataStage to process our data. Oh, this is going to be so much better! :dubious: The whole department worked for about six months converting our reformat programs to DataStage. Then we were told to stop. The Indian Company (ironically named Tata) would take over. That’s when half of us were laid off. The new system was eventually installed. Guess what?

It was supposed to process zillions of lines in the blink of an eye. Instead, it took much longer than clunky old Easytrieve Plus. Not only that, but only one contributor’s data can be run at a time. Toyota or GE or one of the other big ones would take all day to process, and nothing else could run until they were done. :smack: And so now that system is being scrapped, and they’re going back to the mainframe. Incidentally, the other part of the company has been using a very robust system for years that works great. But will my old division use it? Nope. They’d rather wast millions of dollars on something that doesn’t work.

Schadenfreude can be so fun, sometimes! :smiley:

We went to Culver City to visit Martin B. Retting’s gunshop. Several pieces in my collection came from there. Paul chatted with Chris Penn, who was there to purchase a gun. Unfortunatley, Red Star is no longer across the street from the M.B. Retting’s.

Off to Hollywood! We stopped by Birnes & Sawyer, and I got some chamoises for my cameras; then to Mole Richardson where I got a couple of sandbags. Jerry knew of a place in the Valley that had the same stuff cheaper, so we went in that direction. We found the location and were about to start on our way to it, when my phone rang. Paul’s wife. She’s in hospital. Seems their second child is going to be a month early.

What to do? Paul said he couldn’t afford a flight to Bellingham, so we decided on the spot to start driving north. At 5:30 in the afternoon. After a very long drive the Monday and Tuesday, and the driving and visiting on Tuesday, and not much sleep Tuesday night, and driving all over L.A. and Orange Counties that day. Nothing to do for it though. We had to get Paul home!

Which brings me to the Herald. The whole point of the trip was, originally, to get my car. L.A. was an add-on. We drove quickly up to Sacramento, arriving before midnight. The seller agreed to wait up for us. When we got to his house, it was dark. I LVM on their answerphone. Then I called the seller’s wife’s mobile phone. Wrong address. The car was actually at ‘the ranch’. Well, it was; but they’d driven it to Sacramento Int’l Airport to save us driving 20 miles out of our way on the 80. (Seller’s wife: ‘See? I told you we should have called them!’) We hopped back onto the 80 and up to SAC. There was the car. Sounded a little rough, but it sure is cute! :slight_smile: Jerry and Paul totally dug it. And now for the long drive home…

I told the guys they should go on without me, since the Herald would be extremely slow and Paul had a baby making a surprise visit. They wouldn’t hear of it. We got on the freeway and the Herald struggled up to 50 mph. (It’s supposed to make 78!) Didn’t get very far. Somewhere not far from the beginning of the causeway that was built over the swamp, the engine died. Jerry knows a thing or two about cars, and he quickly deduced that there was no fuel going through the carburettor. We had spark, we had fuel going to the carb, but no 15:1 vapour! Oh yeah, and the distributor turned freely in its mounting and the fuel filter had crud in it. (The seller did fill the tank with new gas. He’d also had the car lubed and the oil changed, and shined it up.) Mere minutes into a 900-mile trip, and I was dead in the water, so to speak. At the end of 45 minutes from the time we pulled over, the car was loaded onto a AAA flatbed truck.

We took it to a U-Haul place, but of course they were closed at that hour. We left the car there, and proceded on our baby-meeting mission. I took the first shift driving. Remember that I’d done all of the driving that day in L.A. Jerry took us out of L.A. up to Sacramento. From SAC I drove to Weed. Too far, but I knew that Paul didn’t like the curves in the Siskiyous. Jerry could have driven it (and he did offer), but I knew the road and the Jeep very well. I thought it best if I got us through. After stopping at the rest area in Weed, I crawled into the back and went to sleep. Jerry drove the rest of the way, having napped a bit while I was driving.

We go into Bellingham a little after four this afternoon. The baby was still biding his time, and Paul was going to get a shower and some stuff his wife wanted before going to the hospital.

Jerry and I will drive down to Sacramento on Saturday and pick up a car dolly on Sunday morning and tow the Herald back. We’ll get it running again once it’s here.

I’m glad you had a good visit, and got back safely.

I’m also glad that the Herald in the thread title didn’t refer to the dreaded “Bellingham Herald”. I was afeered that the local newspaper had done something egregious to you while you were gone.

Don’t laugh, it could happen.

Good to have you back, and thanks for a wonderful trip to Seattle last weekend. We ought to get together more often.

Great story! Glad you had a safe trip – but I want to know what happens with the baby!

I’d forgotten about that!

I’ll have to find that out, myself!

Bah! All babies look alike*, we want pics of the Herald!

BTW, there was a 63 TR3 for sale in Portland last weekend. I thought about it real hard, but decided I couldn’t deal with another project right now. <sigh>

  • I keed! Stop hitting me!

Yay for Ye Olde King’s Head!

I told you going down to drive the Herald back would be an adventure. I just didn’t anticipate what type of adventure you’d have. :wink:

You can count on both babies deciding to be born and British cars breaking down at inconvenient times.

Good luck on the next attempt at moving the Herald up here.

Oh, that fish was so good! I’m wearing my YOKH T-shirt now. :wink:

Oh. Thought of something else on the trip. The thread about rain (which I haven’t read because I’m still dragging a bit from sleep deprivation) reminded me. We were somewhere in Washington. Chahalis? Olympia? Anyway, the rain was coming down in buckets. People were pulling over to the side of the road. Two lanes to the right a red 300ZX (?) lost it. Anti-clockwise spin, and it headed for the centre divider – right in front of us. Jerry was driving and hit the brakes hard. We were going to hit. I shouted, ‘Don’t hit the brakes!’ because I thought he’d over-do it and we would be spinning. (My complete thought was ‘Don’t hit the brakes too hard, or else we’ll lose our traction and start spinning too’. Not enough time to shout all of that though.) Fortunately, Jerry had it under control and we kept our grip. The red car completed a 275° spin and hit the divider with its back-right corner.

stretch: I didn’t think the adventure would start so soon! Our back-up plan was to have the Jeep so that we could tow the Herald if it didn’t make it. Unfortunately, that became a non-option when Paul’s wife called us when we were in L.A.

Herald pics.

Me, in front of the car. I’m a bit wind-blown and sleep-deprived. Paul (left) and Jerry (right) are by the Jeep.

Me, in the car

[rul=“http://pw1.netcom.com/~heliboy/herald3.jpg”]Taking a turn in the Arco car park.

Herald pics.

Me, in front of the car. I’m a bit wind-blown and sleep-deprived. Paul (left) and Jerry (right) are by the Jeep.

Me, in the car

Taking a turn in the Arco car park.

Oooohhhh, pics. :slight_smile: What a nice car. Now I really want a Herald, but since we already have a couple of projects going right now, I have to wait.

I told mr.stretch your tale and he was bummed for you–after messing around with Vronica, he can set the distributor by ear now.

I hope you get your MGB soon, too. You need to be surrounded by British cars–preferably running ones, unlike ours. :slight_smile:

The original plan was to have a nifty convertible to drive until the MGB is finished; so you still may have a go at the Herald when the MG comes. On the other hand, it’s such a funky little car – so ugly it’s cute (I mean, those fins are a bit over the top!) – that I may not want to sell it!

I found a receipt in the car, and took it with me. It’s dated September 1992 and lists:

4 Pins fitted, rod aligned
4 Cylinders rebored
8 Guides installed
4 (Exhaust) Valve seats installed [I was told the engine was converted to run on unleaded fuel in 1992]
1 Resurface
1 Crank grind throws main
1 Biol (Block) (‘4 Rod’? notation)
X Expansion plugs
4 RB890 Bushings

IANAMechanic, but that sounds like a rebuild to me.

Indeed that does sound like a engine rebuild, including the head if they converted to run on unleaded–which is a plus and something we’ll be doing to the Renown (she came with bottles of lead additive).

And I like the fins. They are part of what gives the car so much character. :slight_smile:

Boy, it must suck to be so far away from the MGB while they’re putting her back together. It’s easier to crack the whip on folks if you can stop by and bug them in person. Keeps folks on their toes. I would be going crazy and there’s no way mr.stretch could handle that at all. He has to be right in the thick of things.

I can’t wait until you get the Herald here and can give us details on her.

Johnny is the car still in the Sacto area? I am in the bay area this week, and can pop over and take a look if you would like. Let me know.

Thanks for the offer, Rick, but we drove to Woodland on Saturday and picked the car up on Sunday. We got a car dolly and towed it backwards up to Bellingham. Got in around 0200 this morning.

One thing I hadn’t thought about, and which is a little scary now that I do, is that carburettors and distributors sometimes have to be replaced. The Herald uses the same engine as the Mk.I Spitfire (and maybe the Mk.II?), but I’ve heard that some parts are still hard to get. The carb is a Solex B.30PSE1. I don’t know what the distributor is. The car was driven to SAC, so the distributor is working. It’s just that I don’t know how it is secured, and I wonder if there’s something wrong with it that will require replacement. (Can you tell I’m not a mechanic? :wink: ) The seller mentioned he thought the carb float might be ‘sticky’. I’m guessing it can just be ‘cleaned up’? The car is at Jerry’s studio, and he’s done a lot of work on cars. He looked at the engine and made a ‘Pffft!’ sound because it’s so simple. I’ll put my tool box in the Jeep and see if we can figure it out. (More likely, I’ll be ‘watching and learning’ rather than helping much.) If all else fails, there’s a tiny garage across the street where I’m told the owner would salivate and rub his hands at the chance to figure out a problem.

As I said earlier, the car would only do 50 mph; but that it’s supposed to have a top speed of around 80. Jerry and Paul said they knew why they called the (later) car a ‘Spitfire’ because of the flames popping out of the tailpipe. Is the lack of speed and power an issue of the crud in the fuel filter, the carb, and the wandering distributor?

I like the fins too – but they are a bit funky. I’m all like, ‘Hey, I have a car with fins!

I told Jerry and Paul that the car reminds me of a clown car. I seem to hear Procession of the Centurions (I think think that’s what it’s called – the circus music – Doot-doot-doodle-doodle-doot-doot-doo-doo) when I look at it. Jerry said the seller said, while I was driving it, that he could imagine a dozen clowns crawling out of it. It certainly is fun-looking! :slight_smile:

Jerry said that the car is a girl, and wondered what I’d name her. I told thim that the obvious name is Harold, but that I call it The Herald. He didn’t think that was very imaginative. He said the car obviously has a face, and that I should put eyelashes on the headlamp surrounds. (I pointed out that the chrome pieces already had ‘eyebrows’.)

I took the Herald for a spin.

Jerry unclogged the carburettor, and I worked the switch. It runs! :slight_smile: We took off toward downtown, and the pick-up was very good considering it’s a 42-year-old car that hasn’t been driven in a couple of years. The clutch wouldn’t engage at first, so I pumped the pedal. I guess it needs to be bled. The car stalled once on the way to Fairhaven, but started up again. After Fairhaven, we headed toward the freeway. There was traffic, and people around here seem to be slavishly obedient to the speed limit. Nevertheless, I did manage to touch 70 mph at a couple of points. After slowing down to 50 because people up here like to drive much slower than the speed limit when they use the freeway across town, I noticed that the accelleration was not as good as it could be. We continued up the freeway to the Lummi exit and headed back to the exit to the studio. After getting off of the freeway, I noticed the engine was ‘missing’. Not running as well as it was at all. I parked at the studio. Tomorrow I’ll take it to a mechanic for timing. (Jerry doesn’t have a timing gun.) I’ll also see if they can make the distributor stop slipping.

One other thing I noticed was that one of the brakes seems to be dragging. That probably affected my top speed. Also, it seems a rather large step from 2nd to 3rd gear. Other than that, it was a nice trip. The ride was firm, but smooth. The steering was incredibly light.

:slight_smile:

Danger will Robinson! Danger! Daner!
The spitfire only had a TDC mark on the crank dampner. This means that if you do not have a advance cureve timing light there is no way in hell to time the engine. If the local guy unbolts the distributor, you could be in deep shit. ask me how I know this.
BTW the distributor is a British Delco, not Lucas. This was not an improvement.
Missfire can be caused by oil collecting under the ignition points. remove the points, clean the plate and points and reinstall. Missfire may be gone for about 3 months. Again ask me how I know this.
If the timing gets screwed up, let me know and I will pack my advance curve timing light when I come to the PNW next month.

HeyJohn! We arrived in L.A. on the 19th too. We, however, jumped into an Avis piece of Chrysler and drove to Kernville for a reunion of crazy wild land firefighters. We got home a few hours ago. I should be asleep, but I’m wound up.
“6 more weeks” huh?
:smiley:

Man, Rick, all you want to do is ruin our fun, bringing up all the problems and none of the good stuff. :wink:

I’m so glad you got the Herald home. Jerry is right, you need to come up with a good name for her.

Once you get the timing set, look into the brake dragging, blah, blah, blah…all you’ll notice is the fun!