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Old 03-28-2006, 06:34 PM
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House 3/28 - OPEN SPOILERS

House, M.D., is back on tonight--thank goodness! I hate all these hiatuses.
I have no idea what he's up to tonight. I just wonder if Wilson is still staying with him after having left his wife due to their ongoing marital crises.
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:41 PM
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Man I'm glad I read these forums, this long hiatus had made me completely forget about the show!
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:25 PM
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The doctors on the show are developing a disturbing trend toward searching the residences of their patients WITH the patients' permission.
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:02 PM
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Best line of the evening:

Re: New Yankee Workshop.


"Total moron using power tools. It's a recipe for suspense."
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:04 PM
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Whoo - pretty good show! I've only seen one other full episode and part of another one, and I have a question. Does the show always follow this pattern?

- Doctors, baffled by patient's illness, bicker over possible diagnoses.
- House comes up with some way-out theory that everyone else scoffs at.
- After initially seeming to be wrong, House is eventually proven right.
- Other doctors shake their heads in a "that darn House" sort of way.

Not to say the formula doesn't work, but seems like it would get boring after a while...
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:00 PM
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Whoo - pretty good show! I've only seen one other full episode and part of another one, and I have a question. Does the show always follow this pattern?

- Doctors, baffled by patient's illness, bicker over possible diagnoses.
- House comes up with some way-out theory that everyone else scoffs at.
- After initially seeming to be wrong, House is eventually proven right.
- Other doctors shake their heads in a "that darn House" sort of way.

Not to say the formula doesn't work, but seems like it would get boring after a while...
Well, sometimes House burns through a couple of way-out theories that are wrong before coming up with a way-out theory that is correct.
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:14 PM
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Soooo,

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Why was she trying to kill her husband?
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:16 PM
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Soooo,

SPOILER:
Why was she trying to kill her husband?

Inconclusive. We never learned WHY! Only that she WAS.
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:39 PM
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Inconclusive. We never learned WHY! Only that she WAS.
I think we can only conclude that she's ... what's the technical term? Oh, yeah, Fugging Nutz!


I thought it was sweet how House decided to let Wilson stay in a roundabout way. But was it because he likes Wilson or he likes his food?
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:45 PM
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Well, the only thing I'll remember is the juggling.

And Cuddy being in a 3-way. Yikes.
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:19 PM
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Well, the only thing I'll remember is the juggling.

And Cuddy being in a 3-way. Yikes.
Oh yeah, the juggling! I think they were all impressed,I expected them to applaude. When House asked "what, no applause?" I really think Chase wanted to clap.
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:51 PM
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I liked that college-university commercial with the bloodletting.
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:10 AM
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I thought it was sweet how House decided to let Wilson stay in a roundabout way. But was it because he likes Wilson or he likes his food?
Do you have to ask? That wasn't sweet -- that was House.

I thought it was odd at the beginning how everyone was privy to the details of the sex that Dick and Jane were having.

I mean, they looked reluctant to admit that the exertion in question was sexual in nature, and in the next scene it's common knowledge that they were indulging in rape fantasy roleplaying?

I'd like to have seen the parts that were left out:

"Oh, you were getting it on, eh? How, exactly? Leave nothing out. This is important."
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:11 AM
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Another good line: "Stuffed with what--vomit?"
And: "Damn--I was hoping it was Miyagi."

So House will keep Wilson around just because he likes the way the guy cooks. I love it.

That role-playing stuff at the beginning creeped me out.
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:23 AM
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And Cuddy being in a 3-way. Yikes.
I missed that.
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Old 03-29-2006, 03:17 AM
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Anyone notice on the tv what other stuff House had recorded? Spongebob (haha) and Blackadder (nice and subtle).
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Old 03-29-2006, 06:53 AM
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I missed that.
It wasn't Cuddy it was Misses Hotpants, Cameron.
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:38 AM
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Anyone notice on the tv what other stuff House had recorded? Spongebob (haha) and Blackadder (nice and subtle).
I was hoping to be the first to mention the Blackadder listing. There were also some episodes of "The O.C.", but that's not surprising. House loves the soap operas.
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:48 AM
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I missed the second half of House. How was the wife poisoning the husband?
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:04 AM
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The doctors on the show are developing a disturbing trend toward searching the residences of their patients WITH the patients' permission.
There has also been a lamentable lack of seizures. In the first season you could count on the patient having a seizure at the bottom of the hour.


Nice diversion with the wife sneezing at the beginning. It's a game with us during the opening scene to try to guess who's about to fall out.

I think that's the first tracheotomy they've done.

I can't believe I missed the Blackadder listing!
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:11 AM
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I missed the second half of House. How was the wife poisoning the husband?
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House suspected heavy medal poisoning. Her mom had arthritis and wife was taking the arthritis meds, which had a gold compound in them, and feeding the gold+ to hubby. House catches her by holding another solution that reacts with gold against her unwashed hands, which turned purple. He had told Cameron not to let wife go to the bathroom, so she wouldn't wash her hands. "There's a problem with the water throughout the hospital; none of the bathrooms are working."
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:14 AM
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Nice diversion with the wife sneezing at the beginning.
Yeah, I obsessed about that the whole episode!

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That role-playing stuff at the beginning creeped me out.
I kind of caught on to that pretty quick so it wasn't too disturbing. If you were really being attacked, you would run like hell, not take a moment to check on your attacker.
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:32 AM
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Nice diversion with the wife sneezing at the beginning. It's a game with us during the opening scene to try to guess who's about to fall out.
It’s almost to the point where 6 Feet Under had gotten to, where they run it around so much you can’t possibly guess what’s going to happen to the person in the beginning, or even that it’s that person it’s going to happen to.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:00 AM
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by the way, the thread is labeled open spoilers...
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:19 AM
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Why did Cameron give House the money at the end of the episode? Did he bet her it was heavy metal poisoning? I must have missed that part.

And did that guy with Herpes really cheat on his wife or not?
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:37 AM
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IIRC, the bet was whether a good, happy, long-term relationship could exist.

As for the guy with herpes, yes, he cheated. The fact that he latched on to a lame excuse indicated to House that he was lying -- he was looking for an out.

Though, as my wife pointed out, maybe it's the wife that cheated and he's in denial and looking for anything to prove it wasn't so. The wife's actions indicated the case in the show was otherwise, but House could have been wrong.
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:53 AM
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What all you guys said and "great episode."
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Old 03-29-2006, 10:55 AM
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I almost forgot to mention that I loved the image of House shotgunning the energy drink. I just hope he doesn't have to do that before going into surgery or something
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:02 AM
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I almost forgot to mention that I loved the image of House shotgunning the energy drink. I just hope he doesn't have to do that before going into surgery or something
Fortunately, House rarely performs any actual medical procedures himself. That's why he's got Chase.

I enjoyed the exchange between House and Wilson's maid about the box.

Maid: What kind of box?

House: A wooden box!

Maid: You mean the chest?. The one that's under the bed?
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:10 AM
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Yeah, that's true.

The maid is an interesting dynamic. His solitary home is suddenly going to be drastically different. He's living with his best (only?) friend and the den of mess and chaos is suddenly clean. I suspect we'll see more clips of his home life now that there will be people to interact with.

I'm glad to see Wilson is on his feet. I loved the interaction over blowing his hair dry. "You blow your hair?" "Yes, some people care about how they look." YOU... Blow Dry... Your HAIR?!" hehe
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:41 AM
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So did the wife continue to poison her husband when he was in the clinic? I didn't see him eat anything. Would he have been eating with a trach tube in his throat?
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:50 AM
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So did the wife continue to poison her husband when he was in the clinic? I didn't see him eat anything. Would he have been eating with a trach tube in his throat?
<ENT knowledge on>

You can eat with a trach tube just fine once your throat heals in general. As long as you have no other swallowing disorders, you just have to occlude (block) the tube.

</ENT knowledge off>

My only medical disbelief-suspension was having them do a trach while the patient was still seizing. That's a *very* precise procedure, doing it on a moving patient would be next to impossible.

However, I *was* impressed with the fact that they remembered to have the patient block the tube to talk.
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:16 PM
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Soooo,

SPOILER:
Why was she trying to kill her husband?
They didn't say,

SPOILER:

but I figured it was Munchasen's by Proxy.
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:57 PM
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I'm a bit surprised & puzzled that you can poison anyone with gold; and that there's an arthritis remedy that includes gold. I thought gold was inert -- it doesn't form compounds with any other element.
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:26 PM
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Good episode. One thing, though. Did anyone else think the wife looked quite a bit older than the husband? That wouldn't have been extraordinary, of course, except they made a point of them having been in 9th grade together.
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:00 PM
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I'm a bit surprised & puzzled that you can poison anyone with gold; and that there's an arthritis remedy that includes gold. I thought gold was inert -- it doesn't form compounds with any other element.
Gold is relatively safe to ingest -- otherwise the FDA and similar bodies wouldn't allow the sale of Goldschlager schnapps.

She was poisoning him with chronic exposure to a compound containing gold chloride -- tetrachloroauric acid, which is extremely corrosive and nasty. Something else again.
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:06 PM
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Not to say the formula doesn't work, but seems like it would get boring after a while...
I dunno, Law and Order as well as Law and Order: Criminal Intent are both very formulaic, but I never seem to get tired of them ...
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:19 PM
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And Perry Mason ran for years.

Formula is fine, as long as it's kept interesting. It's not the plot, but the character interactions and the dialog that makes House work.
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:22 PM
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.... but House could have been wrong.
But not for longer than 60 minutes, minus commercial time!
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:25 PM
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I thought the scene with Cameron telling the wife she couldn't go to the bathroom because of the water problem was hilarious! You see, when my daughter was in the hospital last year that actually happened! Two separate nights, about two weeks apart, they came over the PA system and put up signs on all the bathrooms that they would be out of order until such and such a time. And it was like 6 or 8 hours! They had one bathroom in the lobby of the hospital that was working, but other than that, no water.

I never did understand what was going on, especially since it happened twice.
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Old 03-29-2006, 03:06 PM
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She was poisoning him with chronic exposure to a compound containing gold chloride -- tetrachloroauric acid, which is extremely corrosive and nasty. Something else again.
That's just it -- I was under the impression that gold didn't form compounds with anything. Apparently, I was misinformed.
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Old 03-29-2006, 03:27 PM
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Good episode. One thing, though. Did anyone else think the wife looked quite a bit older than the husband? That wouldn't have been extraordinary, of course, except they made a point of them having been in 9th grade together.
Samantha Mathis is almost 36, and yeah, she did look more weathered than he. Maybe it was all the stress of killing him slowly.
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Old 03-29-2006, 03:33 PM
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Og I love this show! I loved all the guys' reactions when Cameron said she thought a threesome every 7 years might actually benefit a marriage. They were like, -- Hilarious!
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That's just it -- I was under the impression that gold didn't form compounds with anything. Apparently, I was misinformed.
From this site (bolding mine)
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Ionic gold is a solution containing gold cations along with companion anions. An ionic gold solution is formed when a water soluble gold salt is dissolved in water.

Ionic gold is not the same as metallic gold. For example, metallic gold is not water soluble (does not dissolve in water) but ionic gold is water soluble (it does dissolve in water). Technically speaking, a gold ion is an atom of gold that is typically missing three electrons and is referred to as Au+3 or Gold(III). It is the outermost electrons of an atom that determine the physical properties of matter. Take away three electrons from a gold atom and you get a gold ion which is water soluble. In its ionic form, gold will react with other elements which means it will combine to form compounds. Conversely, metallic gold does not readily combine with other elements.
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Old 03-29-2006, 03:42 PM
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Oh, and I also meant to say that I immediately thought of Munchausen's by Proxy as the obvious explanation as to why she was poisoning him. But on further thought it occurred to me that it may have been a part of the S&M game for her, and hurting him like that actually turned her on sexually. The game (that only she knew she was playing) got out of hand (since, with her as the only player, the husband didn't have a "safe word" to make her stop), yet she couldn't control the impulse to keep playing it. It was all about inflicting pain and control. She could administer it whenever she wanted, and she could stop it whenever she wanted, by bothering to call 911 instead of letting him die, or begging the doctors to help him. That was one twisted bitch.
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Old 03-29-2006, 03:56 PM
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Was I the only one who couldn't stop picturing her circa 1990 opposite Christian Slater in "Pump Up The Volume"?
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Old 03-29-2006, 07:09 PM
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Was I the only one who couldn't stop picturing her circa 1990 opposite Christian Slater in "Pump Up The Volume"?
I knew I recognised her! But I couldn't place her. She had dark hair then, didn't she?

I just looked up her bio and that of the dude who played her poor schmuck of a husband. Turns out she's just a couple of years older -- within the acceptable range for them to have been in the same grade. Still think she looked older, though.
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:27 PM
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I was surprised that the talking scale in the opening sequence said that Samantha Mathis weighed 113 lbs. She came in to my workplace once and she is quite petite. I didn't think she would top 100.
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:09 PM
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I was surprised that the talking scale in the opening sequence said that Samantha Mathis weighed 113 lbs. She came in to my workplace once and she is quite petite. I didn't think she would top 100.
I guess she pumped up HER volume.
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:17 PM
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Thanks, Shayna -- I feel enlightened and vindicated at the same time!
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:25 PM
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One must remember that the wife had to be coaxed to say "I Love you" to her (at that point) dying husband who clearly had no problems expressing his feelings...

The one who loves the least controls the relationship... She may have loved him, but she wasn't 'in love' with him.
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