. . . therefore I’m going to kill some Jews in Seattle.
OK, so you’re pissed at Israel. And, you know something, even as a diehard Isarael supporter, I’m also none too pleased with Israel’s response to the latest unprovoked attack it’s endured. But, WTF, how does murdering a lady from Seattle figure into this? Could it be that, at least in your case, Israel = Jew?
Fucker.
I’m not saying it’s any kind of defense for this atrocity. I am appalled that anyone felt it was justified. I’m just saying this up front.
The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle had just recently staged a pro-Isreal rally, pledging moral support for Isreal’s actions in Lebanon. So, given the attacker’s statement that he was angry at Isreal, I can see how this worthless excuse for a human being could have logically concluded that he was angry specifically at the people he shot in Seattle.
Personally, I hope they lock him up for good. I don’t agree with Isreal’s actions, but I don’t think that it’s reasonable to fear lethal repraisals if someone were to say publicly that they did support Isreal (or anything else, really.)
I think this guy should be given his chance to die for Allah . . . via needle.
Religion seems to make some people insane. Islam seems to make a great percentage of people insane. I hate saying it, and I’m not happy to feel that way.
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Religion seems to make some people insane. Islam seems to make a great percentage of people insane. I hate saying it, and I’m not happy to feel that way.
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Got a cite for your assertion?
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Got a cite for your assertion?
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I don’t see many stories of atheists strapping bombs to themselves, either “for the unborn” or “72 virgins” or whatever other invisible pixie they so choose.
Islam just seems to create the most zealous loony fundy of all of the loony fundies out there.
The ratio of People Killed Because of Religion to People Killed Because of Video Games is really getting out of whack. Looks like Hillary Clinton would try to get the stuff banned.
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I don’t see many stories of atheists strapping bombs to themselves, either “for the unborn” or “72 virgins” or whatever other invisible pixie they so choose.
Islam just seems to create the most zealous loony fundy of all of the loony fundies out there.
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I went looking around for homicidal loonies, and was appalled by the number of terrorist attacks and various batshit incidents there have been in the US that were perpetuated by brown-skinned islamic fundamentalists driven by religous dogma.
Here’s one. Here’s another. Another. They just keep coming out of the woodwork! This is getting kind of easy. La la la.
Whoops - all of them are white, none of them driven by religous dogma.
Hmm, do I detect a hint of bigotry?
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Got a cite for your assertion?
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Here’s one, sort of.
But, here’s a better one.
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I went looking around for homicidal loonies, and was appalled by the number of terrorist attacks and various batshit incidents there have been in the US that were perpetuated by brown-skinned islamic fundamentalists driven by religous dogma.
Here’s one. Here’s another. Another. They just keep coming out of the woodwork! This is getting kind of easy. La la la.
Whoops - all of them are white, none of them driven by religous dogma.
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Wow, none of whom did it “for the protection of Atheism” either!! If you could actually produce someone who did it for his lack of beliefs, I might actually be somewhat impressed. Where’s the terrorists for the Invisible Pink Unicorn at?
Towards fundamentalism, either Christian or Islamic…guilty as charged.
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I went looking around for homicidal loonies, and was appalled by the number of terrorist attacks and various batshit incidents there have been in the US that were perpetuated by brown-skinned islamic fundamentalists driven by religous dogma.
Here’s one. Here’s another. Another. They just keep coming out of the woodwork! This is getting kind of easy. La la la.
Whoops - all of them are white, none of them driven by religous dogma.
Hmm, do I detect a hint of bigotry?
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Oh, don’t be so fucking disingenuous. With the possible exception of McVeigh, none of the people you mention are terrorists as the term is commonly used.
More importantly, there has been no organized, proselytized, effort to induce people to become sexual sadists and cannibals. On the other hand, there have been, and are, more than a few Muslims of influence advocating acts of “martyrdom”.
Tell me you’re not serious.
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With the possible exception of McVeigh, none of the people you mention are terrorists as the term is commonly used.
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Why not? Certainly the Unabomber fits the common definition of a terrorist.
Perhaps I should have been a bit more clear, Sam Clem. when I said “I’m not happy to feel that way” I meant that I personally have that assertion, not that its any kind of fact. I’m not defending feeling that way either, but thats how Islam registers to me.
Now whether or not there are more Islamic terrorists than any other kind I don’t know. I’m sure every religion has its share of nutcases. Christianity does and just thinking about people like that disgusts me.
You want cites of muslim rage and insanity?
Versus Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols and Theodore Kaczynski, who, by many standards weren’t particulary religious? Not even close…
Protesting soliders funerals is nuts, not dangerous. The Koreshis were seculsional, not murderers. Ruby Ridge? A solitary nutcase. Columbine? A product of our politcally correct, hands-off society.
Those things though, do not, cannot, EVER hold a candle to the white-hot fire of hate that radiates throughout the muslim world for America and her supporters.
It has become clear that Islamic Fundamentalism is dangerous, not jsut to Americans, but to everyone in the entire free world.
Even the guy from Jyllands-Posten gets it.
I don’t know why it’s this way, I only know it is. It doesn’t make me feel bad to recognize when something is evil. There is plenty of evil in Christianity too, in fact, no religion is particularly safe from that kind of madness (with the possible exception of Buddhism). It’s just that muslims are expressly more violent than most. Just an obvious fact.
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There is plenty of evil in Christianity too
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Aww, gee, you took away the standard tu quoque used by apologists in these threads.
Well try this then. Other terrorism has incorporated with the State. The hybrid is called an “Army.”
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Well try this then. Other terrorism has incorporated with the State. The hybrid is called an “Army.”
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All right, so you say that despite being uniformed and having a clear command structure (ie, the definition of a lawful combatant under the Third Geneva Convention) that an Army is a terrorist organization??
The shameful behavior of certain elements of an otherwise distinguished and proud fighting force does not lower its overall respect and standing.
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Well try this then. Other terrorism has incorporated with the State. The hybrid is called an “Army.”
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Philosophically, I somewhat agree, but realistically, your comparison is hollow.
Armies fight, generally, with rules, and protocol. Violations of which are punishable by all manner of sentences, up to and including death. Armies are raised within countries to defend those countries from attackers. They do so under the ausipices of the common defense, and to protect the common interest in that country.
Radical muslims represent radical muslims. They do NOT represent the whole of the people within those countries (in most cases). Sadly, the bad apples DO spoil the bunch.
They do not fight for the common defense, but fight for the supremacy of their religion. They fight in horribly cowardly ways, using women, children and animals as both fodder and target.
They fight without rule, protocol, or even honor, though they believe their purpose is higher, the murder of innocent people waiting at a bus stop shows the world otherwise
At the risk of Godwinizing this thread, radical Islam (and it’s followers) is as dangerous as Nazism, with, ironically, the same target. For my money, just like the Nazis’ the followers of radical islam must meet the fate they call for the Jews to meet, and I don’t mind even a little bit the help we give Israel.
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All right, so you say that despite being uniformed and having a clear command structure (ie, the definition of a lawful combatant under the Third Geneva Convention) that an Army is a terrorist organization??
The shameful behavior of certain elements of an otherwise distinguished and proud fighting force does not lower its overall respect and standing.
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So your beef with terrorism is the lack of uniform and a clear command structure? In other words, the poverty?
With most armies, the shameful ‘certain elements’ are in charge. Pick your own example.
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With most armies, the shameful ‘certain elements’ are in charge. Pick your own example.
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May we have a cite for this assertion, please?