Technology makes passive life seducing

Technology makes passive life seducing

“The development of general ability for independent thinking and judgment should always be placed foremost, not the acquisition of specialized knowledge.” --Albert Einstein

Our (US) society is not generally tuned to agree with Albert’s opinion. We generally consider education is a commodity, an object of commerce; generally our schools, colleges, and universities prepare us in a specific specialty so that we can fit directly into the cogs of the industrial machine when we graduate.

**The “development of general ability for independent thinking and judgment” must come after our school days are complete. If we do not begin this process of preparation for independent thinking quickly after schooling it is quite likely we will never acquire the judgment required of an independent critical thinker.

There is good reason to consider our first priority is to acquire the certificates necessary for a good job and then to focus our attention upon taking control of our life following our graduation.**

There is a significant difference between life as it is typically lived and life as it could be. This difference can be lived provided one does not give into a passive role and develops an active roll in determining her or his future.

The passive learner rolls with the punches; s/he establishes habits that ‘work’, which allow him or her to ‘get by’. The passive learner seeks to integrate her or him self into the status quo.

**Our technology makes a passive life seducing. The following two paragraphs are from a recent article in the Washington Post written by a reporter who had rented a car with a GPS guidance system.

Again and again, I turned off the calculated route — following my nose across country — and the G.P.S. patiently rearranged its plans. Now and then I heard it say, “Make a legal U-turn at the first opportunity,” and I wondered if I was hearing a sigh of defeat in its crisp, female voice. I set out one morning for a nearly vanished Kansas town. “You have arrived!” said the G.P.S., without irony, as we drove down the tumbleweed streets of our destination.

We fought only once, in Emporia. We were leaving the surface road and picking up the Kansas Turnpike. The instructions I heard flatly contradicted my sense of where we were, so I ignored them and found myself heading west, toward Salina, instead of northeast, toward Lawrence. It was a humbling experience. I stopped for coffee. When I started the car, the G.P.S. said, “Resume?” Not a hint of told-you-so in its voice. I said yes, and let it lead me home.**

The active learner establishes habits directed at constant improvement. I think that many people become active learners directing their efforts at maximizing production and consumption. In fact I guess the American life style is ‘to be the active learner running faster and faster on the industrial tread mill’. The values ingrained in us by our culture ‘tell us’ that that is the natural way to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative. But there is another way to become an active learner and that is by self-actualization through self-learning directed not at becoming a better producer and consumer but upon establishing a broader perspective, by establishing a different value system.

How does a young person who has finished their schooling develop their own value system?

How does a young person develop a sound intellectual foundation upon which to build a life?

What is a sound intellectual foundation?

How does a young person learn to ask the important questions?

How does a young person find the answers to these questions?

How does a young person become an independent thinker when the culture is constantly singing a lullaby for slumber?

I’m not a mod, but I would appreciate it if you slowed down a bit with your new thread posting.

I suspect that a young person’s chances are highest when he believes in self-actualization, but also in the merging of both his needs as an intellectual consumer and a social pawn so that the overall paradigm is one of relative cultural symbiosis but with potential for general individualistic osmosis in the overview.

Presumably you would consider a peasant under the Feudal system to have more ‘independent thinking and judgment’ than today’s student using the Internet. Because technology is bad for you? :confused:

Einstein did not say knowledge was bad. He wanted people to learn and use technology.
Your idea of education becoming too specialised is based on what?
All school students learn maths, languages, science, technology, history, geography etc.

Oh really? :rolleyes: As a teacher, I instill this as early as possible at school. By the time you leave school, you have demands on your time (principally earning a living) and it is unrealistic to expect people to decide a key element was missing from their education and spend copious amounts of time learning it.

Your reporter using GPS as an example of technology obstructing thinking is an idiot. He prefers to ‘follow his nose’ to reach obscure destinations? :smack:
Is he using road signs? Is he using maps? Aren’t these technology?
WHY IS HE USING A CAR?! Since technology is bad, he should walk, asking people for directions and giving himself maximum opportunity to develop ‘independent thinking and judgment’ . Of course it might take him a while to achieve anything…

The reporter does not understand that useful technology, once assimilated, is taken for granted (like he assumes a car is good). What he has is a fear of the new. Of course GPS is the most efficient way to reach destinations. It can warn you of traffic congestion too.

Marshall McLuhan “The High Priest of Pop-Culture in the mid twentieth century was the first individual to announce the existence of the ‘global village’ and to express that “we become what we behold”. McLuhan sought to understand and express the effects of technology on modern culture.

“The objective of advertising men, said McLuhan, is the manipulation, exploitation, and control of the individual. If this is true, then who, one might ask, was doing the controlling, and what was the desired effect?… The advertising companies were doing the controlling, and the desired effect was nothing loftier than selling products to unsuspecting customers.”

McLuhan was particularly interested in “Technology as Extension of the Human Body”. “An extension occurs when an individual or society makes or uses something in a way that extends the range of the human body and mind in a fashion that is new. The shovel we use for digging holes is a kind of extension of the hands and feet. The spade is similar to the cupped hand, only it is stronger, less likely to break, and capable of removing more dirt per scoop than the hand. A microscope, or telescope is a way of seeing that is an extension of the eye.”

Going further in this vein the auto is an extension of the foot. However there are negative results from all such extensions. “Amputations” represent the unintended and unreflected counterparts of such extensions.

“Every extension of mankind, especially technological extensions, have the effect of amputating or modifying some other extension… The extension of a technology like the automobile “amputates” the need for a highly developed walking culture, which in turn causes cities and countries to develop in different ways. The telephone extends the voice, but also amputates the art of penmanship gained through regular correspondence. These are a few examples, and almost everything we can think of is subject to similar observations.” “We have become people who regularly praise all extensions, and minimize all amputations. McLuhan believed that we do so at our own peril.”

“He was deeply concerned about man’s willful blindness to the downside of technology, yet McLuhan was not an irrational alarmist… In his later years, and partially as a response to his critics, McLuhan developed a scientific basis for his thought around what he termed the tetrad. The tetrad allowed McLuhan to apply four laws, framed as questions, to a wide spectrum of mankind’s endeavors, and thereby give us a new tool for looking at our culture.”

What does it (the medium or technology) extend?"
“What does it make obsolete?”
“What is retrieved?”
“What does the technology reverse into if it is over-extended?”

“On McLuhan’s gravestone are the words “The Truth Shall Make You Free.” We do not have to like or even agree with everything that McLuhan said, but we should nevertheless remember that his life was dedicated to showing men the truth about the world they live in, and the hidden consequences of the technologies he develops.”

The Internet with the accompanying Blogs and Forums might warrant enlightened consideration in view of McLuhan’s observations.

Quotes from: Marshall McLuhan: "The Medium is the Message"

Coberst, why don’t you respond to other posters?

Simply cutting and pasting some quotes and adding a few questions of your own seems pointless.

Interesting sentiment. And yet, oddly, I feel uncompelled by all these quotes to do any original thinking myself. I want to say something clever about Emporia, whence William Allen White wrote “What’s the matter with Kansas” all those years ago, but what’s the point?

Why do I want coberst to notice me? Why do I want to mess with this stream of consciousness?

OK, look. There are more people thinking for themselves today than there ever were before, for the simple reason that there are more sources of information and less time lost on handwashing clothing and compound arithmetic. And people are healthier and have more carbohydrates to rev their brains. But there are also hugely more people doing superficially semismart things because of all the popular appliances that let them, and those people aren’t really holding anybody back, eh?

So, the reporter likes listening to the GPS and turning its molologue into some wry social signpost? Why doesn’t he just turn it off and go bring down the President, like the Post used to do? At least, the quotes would make better theatre!

Because we’re on an interesting message board. :slight_smile:
Unless it’s one of these Coberst’s ‘stream of consciousness’ threads.

Ooooh! Coberst is a ‘passive learner’. He types quotes, loses interest and starts yet another rambling thread.

Come on Coberst - be an ‘active learner’.
As a wise man once said “There is no improvement without interaction.”

It appears that one can discuss people, things, or ideas. I am interested primarily in ideas and not in personalities.

A superficially reasonable point that ignores one basic fact: you are talking to other people here.

I think the complaint is not that you aren’t trying to be best buddies with everyone, it’s more that you don’t often respond to other peoples’ ideas. Dialogue can be productive, and you don’t have to discuss beer and baseball if you don’t want to.

It is actually true that many can discuss things. Do you not know this?
Are you interested in anyone else’s ideas?

Here’s my problem:

  • you post a rambling set of quotes and ideas
  • I respond to you, making several points
  • you don’t reply to any of them

Because I have been thinking and writing about such matters for some time and have created my best comprehension of such matters in this way. When I reply with these writings it is because they represent the best I have to offer. Off the cuff remarks do not, in my opinion, represent the best I have in mind.

Then you are conversing-you are lecturing.

I’m not sure what it is you want (or even why you post here).

This is a message board, designed so people from all over the World can discuss topics.
The board is split into categories and then subdivided into threads. This allows precise defintion of topics.

You seem to think that your original post ends the matter and that we will probably murmur “Deep thoughts, that man.”
That could happen. But it clearly hasn’t.

So take your time and consider the points other people have made. In particular I am certain you have completely misunderstood the reporter talking about using GPS. They didn’t mean there was a problem - it was just a column to entertain.
(It would be polite to say “Interesting comments - let me get back to you”, so we know you aren’t just ignoring us.)

I’m taking this to mean whatever we write is never worth considering when compared with your illuminating script. When added with the arrogance of the first sentence we have a topic that cannot be properly discussed while outside the Pit so good day to you sir.

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I believe you meant “are not conversing.”
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I’ll add to the general tenor of responses here that if one is really talking to oneself, and is not interested in interacting with one’s audience, then LiveJournal is a good place to post one’s thoughts. One can even lock one’s posts so that others can’t comment.

I’m sure this will be an anti-intellectual response, but could someone tell me what “Technology makes passive life seducing” means? Should it read ‘Technology makes passive life seductive’? What is passive life seducing?

I ask only for my own understanding here.

-XT

So you really sit down, think about some Deep Topic, write a little essay about it, post that essay here on the Dope, and then your work is done? You don’t feel a need to defend your work? You don’t feel a desire to respond to critiques of your work? You think the correct model is for you to write an essay, and the rest of us should read it, and nod approvingly?

This is a discussion board. We discuss things here. If you merely want a forum to post your Deep Thoughts, get yourself a blog and stop bothering us.

A friend of mine recently said “Anything invented after you turn 35 is the tool of the Devil” which seems to summarize whatever the heck the OP is on about.

What he said.

I thought about replying to this thread, but I’ve got the Saints-Titans game coming on in HD here. If you need me, I’ll be sitting in my recliner in my underwear drinking beer and wishing Jaws would talk more and Tony less.