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Old 01-22-2008, 08:32 AM
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Oscar nominations are out

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/...r.nominations/

The one I'm most disappointed in is Hal Holbrook for best supporting actor for "Into The Wild".

Can't argue with much else. I like seeing Juno getting nominated.
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:49 AM
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Why are you disappointed with Hal Holbrook being nominated?

I have seen absolutely ZERO of the nominated movies/roles, and honestly There Will be Blood and No Country for Old Men sound utterly boring and pretentious to me. But I would like to see Juno and Michael Clayton when the come out on DVD. I was a bit surprised that Sweeney Todd did not get nominated, but I guess the Academy has never much liked Tim Burton for some reason.

The big story this year of course is: Will there even be a ceremony?
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:55 AM
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2008 Academy Awards nominations

These aren't predictions, these are the actual nominees.

BEST PICTURE
Atonement
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood


BEST DIRECTOR
Julian Schnabel - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Jason Reitman - Juno
Tony Gilroy - Michael Clayton
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen - No Country For Old Men
Paul Thomas Anderson - There Will Be Blood


BEST ACTOR
George Clooney - Michael Clayton
Daniel Day-Lewis - There Will Be Blood
Johnny Depp - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
Tommy Lee Jones - In The Valley of Elah
Viggo Mortensen - Eastern Promises


BEST ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett - Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Julie Christie - Away from Her
Marion Cotillard - La Vie en Rose
Laura Linney - The Savages
Ellen Page - Juno


BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Casey Affleck - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Javier Bardem - No Country For Old Men
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Charlie Wilson's War
Hal Holbrook - Into the Wild
Tom Wilkinson - Michael Clayton


BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett - I'm Not There
Ruby Dee - American Gangster
Saorise Ronan - Atonement
Amy Ryan - Gone Baby Gone
Tilda Swinton - Michael Clayton


BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Juno - Diablo Cody
Lars and the Real Girl - Nancy Oliver
Michael Clayton - Tony Gilroy
Ratatouille - Brad Bird
The Savages - Tamara Jenkins


BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Atonement - Christopher Hampton
Away From Her - Sarah Polley
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly - Ronald Harwood
No Country For Old Men - Ethan Coen and Joel Coen
There Will Be Blood - Paul Thomas Anderson


BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
Persepolis
Ratatouille
Surf's Up


BEST ART DIRECTION
American Gangster - Art Direction: Arthur Max; Set Decoration: Beth A. Rubino
Atonement - Art Direction: Sarah Greenwood; Set Decoration: Katie Spencer
The Golden Compass - Art Direction: Dennis Gassner; Set Decoration: Anna Pinnock
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street - Art Direction: Dante Ferretti; Set Decoration: Francesca Lo Schiavo
There Will Be Blood - Art Direction: Jack Fisk; Set Decoration: Jim Erickson


BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford - Roger Deakins
Atonement - Seamus McGarvey
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly - Janusz Kaminski
No Country for Old Men - Roger Deakins
There Will Be Blood - Robert Elswit


BEST COSTUME DESIGN
Across The Universe - Albert Wolsky
Atonement - Jacqueline Durran
Elizabeth: The Golden Age - Alexandra Byrne
La Vie en Rose - Marit Allen
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street - Colleen Atwood


BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
No End In Sight
Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience
Sicko
Taxi to the Dark Side
War/Dance


BEST DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT
Freeheld
La Corona (The Crown)
Salim Baba
Sari's Mother


BEST FILM EDITING
The Bourne Ultimatum - Christopher Rouse
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly - Juliette Welfling
Into The Wild - Jay Cassidy
No Country For Old Men - "Roderick Jaynes" (Ethan Coen and Joel Coen)
There Will Be Blood - Dylan Tichenor


BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
Beaufort (Israel, directed by Joseph Cedar)
Counterfeiters, The (Austria, directed by Stefan Ruzowitzky)
Katyn (Poland, directed by Andrzej Wajda)
Mongol (Kazakhstan, directed by Sergei Bodrov)
12 (Russia, directed by Nikita Mikhalkov)


BEST MAKEUP
La Vie en Rose
Norbit
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End


BEST ORIGINAL SONG
"Falling Slowly" from Once - Music and Lyric by Glen Hansard and: Marketa Irglova
"Happy Working Song" from Enchanted - Music by Alan Menken; Lyric by Stephen Schwartz
"Raise It Up" from August Rush - Nominees to be determined
"So Close" from Enchanted - Music by Alan Menken; Lyric by Stephen Schwartz
"That's How You Know" from Enchanted - Music by Alan Menken; Lyric by Stephen Schwartz


BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Atonement - Dario Marianelli
The Kite Runner - Alberto Iglesias
Michael Clayton - James Newton Howard
Ratatouille - Michael Giacchino
3:10 To Yuma - Marco Beltrami


BEST ANIMATED SHORT FILM
I Met The Walrus
Madame Tutli-Putli
Even Pigeons To To Heaven (Même Les Pigeons Vont au Paradis)
My Love (Moya Lyubov)
Peter & The Wolf


BEST LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM
At Night
Il Supplente (The Substitute)
Le Mozart Des Pickpockets (The Mozard Of Pickpockets)
Tanghi Argentini
The Tonto Woman


BEST SOUND MIXING
The Bourne Ultimatum - Scott Millan, David Parker and Kirk Francis
No Country for Old Men - Skip Lievsay, Craig Berkey, Greg Orloff and Peter Kurland
Ratatouille - Randy Thom, Michael Semanick and Doc Kane
3:10 to Yuma - Paul Massey, David Giammarco and Jim Stuebe
Transformers - Kevin O'Connell, Greg P. Russell and Peter J. Devlin


BEST SOUND EDITING
The Bourne Ultimatum - Karen Baker Landers and Per Hallberg
No Country for Old Men - Skip Lievsay
Ratatouille - Randy Thom and Michael Silvers
There Will Be Blood - Matthew Wood
Transformers - Ethan Van der Ryn and Mike Hopkins


BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The Golden Compass - Michael Fink, Bill Westenhofer, Ben Morris and Trevor Wood
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End - John Knoll, Hal Hickel, Charles Gibson and John Frazier
Transformers - Scott Farrar, Scott Benza, Russell Earl and John Frazier

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Here's the nomination count:

[8] No Country for Old Men
Picture
Director
Supporting Actor
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Editing
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing

[8] There Will Be Blood
Picture
Director
Actor
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Editing
Art Direction
Sound Editing

[7] Atonement
Picture
Supporting Actress
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Art Direction
Costume Design
Original Score

[7] Michael Clayton
Picture
Director
Actor
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Original Screenplay
Original Score

[5] Ratatouille
Animated Film
Original Screenplay
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing
Original Score

[4] The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Director
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Editing

[4] Juno
Picture
Director
Actress
Original Screenplay

[3] The Bourne Ultimatum
Editing
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing

[3] Enchanted
Original Song x3

[3] Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
Actor
Art Direction
Costume

[3] Transformers
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing
Visual Effects

[3] La Vie en Rose
Actress
Costume Design
Makeup

[2] 3:10 to Yuma
Sound Mixing
Original Score

[2] American Gangster
Supporting Actress
Art Direction

[2] The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Supporting Actor
Cinematography

[2] Away from Her
Actress
Adapted Screenplay

[2] Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Actress
Costume Design

[2] The Golden Compass
Art Direction
Visual Effects

[2] Into the Wild
Supporting Actor
Editing

[2] Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Makeup
Visual Effects

[2] The Savages
Actress
Original Screenplay




I haven't checked to see how I did in predicting, but I know I missed on on Atonement. Silly me. At least I hedged about it. I missed on Angelina Jolie and Laura Linney (I'm THRILLED about her nomination!), and I never thought the director of Juno would make it. That's a shocker. Hooray for Sarah Polley too!
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:58 AM
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No Country For Old Men is thrilling end to end.

Hal Holbrook wasn't even the best supporting actor in THAT movie. It's one of those "give it to the old man" awards.

He's one of those choices where for some reason the first person who saw the movie went, "Hal Holbrook was amazing" and then everyone just started going, "yeah, Hal Holbrook was amazing."
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:03 AM
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Hello Kitty took the words right out of my mouth!: "honestly There Will be Blood and No Country for Old Men sound utterly boring and pretentious to me. " From their descriptions I can't imagine putting down money to see those in a theatre.
Don't understand why Tim Burton or Angelina Jolie weren't nominated. Then again, I never understand these things. Hope this is Johnny Depp's year, but it probably won't be. Getting nominated is honor enough, I suppose.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:06 AM
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No Country for Old Men is about a guy who steals a briefcase full of money in a drug deal gone wrong, and gets chased by a hired killer.

You can choose not to see it if you want, but let's try different adjectives than "pretentious" and "boring".
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:10 AM
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Trunk - you are right. "Old Men" simply doesn't sound like my kind of movie; "There will be Blood" sounds pretentious and boring.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:31 AM
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OK, I will give you that maybe No Country for Old Men is not pretentious nor boring, but like well he's back said, it's not my kind of movie. I guess it just doesn't appeal to me. Neither does There Will be Blood. For the record, I've never seen Titanic, Mystic River or Million Dollar Baby for the same reason...none of them appeal to me. At all.

I see a similar thing with Daniel Day Lewis's nomination as you do with Hal Holbrook's...a few people see the movie and say "he's amazing" and then everyone else starts saying "wow what a performance", and because he's DDL (or the Old Guy as in Holbrook's case) well he's got to be nominated, right? Just from the clips of the movie I've seen it looks like he's playing a variation of the same character from Gangs of New York.

Well, that's why the Oscars are so much fun...everyone has an opinion, right!!?
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:41 AM
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I'm happy to see Juno get four nominations, though I'm surprised it get a directing nod for Jason Reitman. I think Tim Burton was more deserving. I do think that Juno has an outside shot at Best Picture though, so the directing nod is sort of obligatory.

I haven't seen many of the nominated films this year, but I do really want to see both No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:43 AM
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Trunk - you are right. "Old Men" simply doesn't sound like my kind of movie; "There will be Blood" sounds pretentious and boring.
It's neither.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:48 AM
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I see a similar thing with Daniel Day Lewis's nomination as you do with Hal Holbrook's...a few people see the movie and say "he's amazing" and then everyone else starts saying "wow what a performance", and because he's DDL (or the Old Guy as in Holbrook's case) well he's got to be nominated, right?
Wrong. DDL's performance is the best of the year, period. The girl from Juno, I think, better fits your description of a "buzz" nomination. She isn't that great and her performance is actually kind of irritating but she's riding the wave of a good script.
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Just from the clips of the movie I've seen it looks like he's playing a variation of the same character from Gangs of New York.
He's not. The characters are not remotely similar.
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Well, that's why the Oscars are so much fun...everyone has an opinion, right!!?
Some of them are more informed than others.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:55 AM
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Just from the clips of the movie I've seen it looks like he's playing a variation of the same character from Gangs of New York.
The characters are nothing alike. The only similarity is they both have a mustache. Daniel Day-Lewis's performance is easily the best of the year.

I only wish that Sweeney Todd was nominated for Best Picture instead of Juno, which was cute but I wouldn't say it was the best film of the year.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:02 AM
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I only wish that Sweeney Todd was nominated for Best Picture instead of Juno, which was cute but I wouldn't say it was the best film of the year.
Juno is this year's Little Miss Sunshine. But it has no chance of winning up against TWBB and NCFOM.

I think Daniel Day-Lewis is a lock for Best Actor, which is too bad for Johnny Depp, because I think this would have been his year otherwise. I am disappointed James McAvoy wasn't nominated for Atonement, but am glad to see it got a couple nods anyway.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:14 AM
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I would like to see TWBB win Best Pic but I would be ok with NCFOM winning. I just hope it doesn't go to Atonement, which is overrated and hampered by an underwritten central relationship and weak acting by Keira Knightly or Michael Clayton which is kind of pretentious and boring, not to mention borderline incomprehensible. It has a few good scenes and a few good performances but it's also kind of ponderous and convoluted. Juno is amusing and has heart but is really too lightweight to be a BP.

DDL should win easily for Best Actor but I'm glad to see Viggo Mortenson get some recognition. The other nominees were fine in their roles but none of them were really utstanding and none of them came close to what DDL did.

In the Best Actress category, I think Marion Cotillard might be a surprise winner. Blanchett was good in a terrible movie (but I thought it was terrible in a good way. It's high camp). I haven't seen Linney's or Christie's performances so I can't comment on them. I can't see Ellen Page getting the win, despite Juno's popularity. This category is kind of wide open, though.

Supporting actor will be Javier Bardem. This is probably the biggest cinch of the year. Anton Chigurh rules. I liked PSH's performance in Charlie Wilson's War, though. He was really the best thing in an ultimately forgettable movie.

Supporting Actress I think will go to Blanchett for her novelty performance but my choice would be Amy Ryan. I really bought her as a drug addicted skank. She gave a very realistic performance in a role that could have easily lent itself to cheesy histrionics and melodrama. I would have liked to see Jennifer Garner get a nomination for Juno.

Best director I think will go to the Cohen brothers, though by all rights it should go to PTA.

I predict that the only award Juno walks away with is screenplay.

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Old 01-22-2008, 10:24 AM
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Yeah, I forgot to mention Viggo.

He was great in Eastern Promises and I thought that was a great movie.

He had the look, the voice. It was a great physical performance, and when you look back on it after the movie ends, you realize how subtle he was about so many things. . .maybe a longer look at someone, or a touch. He was completely manipulative of everyone without seeming to try at all.

That said, I have yet to see TWBB, but I'm a fan of DDL, and I expect that if this performance was as good as any of his others, he's deserving of the win.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:29 AM
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I was really kind of hoping they'd give the editing nomination for No Country for Old Men to Roderick Jaynes, I thought it'd be kind of amusing. After all, they did give a screenplay award to Donald Kaufman if I remember correctly.

Overall, I really like the nominations. I'm constantly surprised that Atonement gets the amount of love that it gets - and I did like it - but I thought it missed on a few notes. Opinions and all...

It was nice to see Roger Deakins get a few nominations, he did some pretty good work.

We all know what will happen in the original song category. Enchantment's three songs will split votes and the award will got to Once. It always happens.

...and good for Juno. It's more than worthy. Can't win though, which is unfortunate. I think Best Actress category is slightly more wide open so if it wins, it'll be there or maybe even original screenplay.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:34 AM
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Best nominations:
Tommy Lee Jones (a genuine surprise) & Viggo Mortensen
Away From Her for Adapted Screenplay
Blood and No Country lead the pack with 8 each
Bourne finally gets some love (3 nods)
2 nods for Roger Deakins (Cinematography)

Worst Nominations
Norbit for Makeup (over Sweeney Todd, Hairspray et al.)
Cate Blanchett for Actress (for her Elizabeth snoozer)
Atonement for Picture
3 Enchanted songs nominated (over anything from Into the Wild or Hairspray)
Visual Effects for Pirates 3

Sad shutouts--Zilchola for Zodiac, Hairspray, Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, The Kingdom and only 2 for Into the Wild
Blessed shutouts--The ugly (in a variety of ways) 300 gets nothing
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:35 AM
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Supporting actor will be Javier Bardem. This is probably the biggest cinch of the year.
Though I agree Bardem is the heavy, heavy favorite, I can think of one that's even more of a slam-dunk: with 5 nominations (the most for any Pixar movie ever), I'd say Ratatouille is a lock for Animated Feature.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:39 AM
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Disappointing to see Into the Wild get so little attention.

Atonement is, in my view, overblown and overrated. But a long, pointless tracking shot won it points with the film school crowd. (And when I say the tracking shot was pointless, I mean it added nothing to the story. It was just a film-geek wank inserted awkwardly into the movie.)

The other nominated films are all worthy picks. Since Into the Wild didn't get nominated, I would give the nod to No Country for Old Men.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:57 AM
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I was really kind of hoping they'd give the editing nomination for No Country for Old Men to Roderick Jaynes, I thought it'd be kind of amusing.
They did. Roderick Jaynes was nominated for No Country For Old Men.

Here are some trivia points about this year's Academy Award nominations (I got most of these from Awards Daily but I didn't just cut and paste one list. I scanned through a thread and copied them over one by one, and added things of my own). This is not a complete list. I haven't checked every one of these so there might be disputes.

Sound Mixer Kevin O'Connell now has 20 nominations (no wins yet).

Three people recieved multiple nominations:

Paul Thomas Anderson - Best Director, Best Screenplay, both for There Will Be Blood
Cate Blanchett - Best Actress for Elizabeth: The Golden Age, Best Supporting Actress for I'm Not There
Roger Deakins - Cinematography for The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford, and No Country For Old Men

Two of the acting nominations are over 80 years old. Ruby Dee (83) is now the 2nd oldest acting nominee ever (in ANY category) behind Gloria Stuart (87 when getting nominated). Also, Ruby Dee now holds the record for shortest performance nominated for an Oscar.

Ruby Dee is the only black acting nominee.

There's an an age difference of 70 years between two nominees in the Best Supporting Actress category (Ruby Dee and Saorise Ronan)

Saorise Ronan is the youngest ever Irish actor to be nominated. She was born in New York while her father was working there.

Saorise is pronounced "Sear-sha.""

Hal Holbrook is not only the oldest Best Supporting Actor nominee, he's the oldest nominee ever.

Out of 20 acting noms, 17 are from different films.

Cate Blanchett is the first woman to ever be nominated for reprising a role.

Cate Blanchett is now one of 50 actors with 5 or more nominations and one of 11 with double nominations in the same year.

Half of the actors nominated are not American.

Marion Cotillard receives the 10th nomination for a French actress. No French actress has ever won the Academy Award.

Julie Christie won her first Lead Actress Academy Award in 1966, for the film Darling. If Christie wins for Away From Her, there will be 42 years difference between her first and 2nd win. This is Christie's 3rd nomination. She was also nominated in 1972 for McCabe & Mrs. Miller.

Four of the screenplay nominations were by women screenwriters (Diablo Cody for Juno, Nancy Oliver for Lars and the Real Girl, Tamara Jenkins for The Savages and Sarah Polley for Away From Her)

Tommy Lee Jones is the first actor to be nominated for a SAG for one film and for Oscars for another film.

Marjan Satrapi is the first woman ever to be nominated in the Best Animated Feature category (for Persepolis).

Michael Clayton is the only movie with multiple nominations in acting.

Julian Schnabel (The Diving Bell and the Butterfly) is the second consecutive American to be nominated for having directed a foreign language film. (Last year, Clint Eastwood was nominated for directing the Japanese-language Letters From Iwo Jima).

Costume Designer Marit Allen receives her first nomination posthumously for La Vie en Rose.

Editor "Roderick Jaynes" is the first fictional person to receive multiple nominations. (Roderick Jaynes is actually Joen Coen and Ethan Coen)

Juliette Welfling is the first French woman to be nominated for best editing, for The Diving Bell and the Butterfly.

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Old 01-22-2008, 11:00 AM
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I'm happy to see Juno get four nominations, though I'm surprised it get a directing nod for Jason Reitman.
Reitman absolutely deserves the nomination. Juno works (to the extent it does) almost entirely because of his careful, thoughtful direction. The script is hyperstylized, self-conscious, and cutesy, and in less capable hands would have resulted in an utterly excruciating film. Reitman keeps the cast grounded, and makes sure the actors are speaking with each other instead of at each other. When a movie is praised for the excellence of its entire cast, as Juno is, the credit should go to the director, because he's the guy keeping everyone on the same page.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:01 AM
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Since Equipoise went to all that trouble creating the nominees post, I merged her thread with this one. (Didn't want to see it go to waste, and it'll save someone else from the task.)
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:02 AM
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Some various trivia:
  • The Bourne Ultimatum becomes the first film to have its 3rd installment nominated for an Oscar when the previous two installments were completely ignored by the Academy
  • Though not nominated himself, Josh Brolin appears in films tallying 11 nods total--more than any other actor this year
  • Cate Blanchett becomes only the 2nd performer (after winner Linda Hunt) to be nominated for playing a member of the opposite gender
  • The Pirates franchise now totals 11 nominations, tying it with the Rocky series for 6th most in Academy history
  • There have been only 5 animated films in Oscar history to be nominated in the screenplay category, and 4 of them (including this year's Ratatouille) have been from Pixar
  • Enchanted becomes the 4th film to get 3 nominations in the Original Song category, and the first to not get any other nods in any other category. Alan Menken's 3 nods for these songs put his career total at 13 in this category (he's won 4 times).
  • 3 of the 5 original screenplay nominees were written by women--a first.
  • Before the Devil Knows You're Dead features nominees Phillip Seymour Hoffman & Amy Ryan, though neither were nominated for that film
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Paul Thomas Anderson - Best Director, Best Screenplay, both for There Will Be Blood
Cate Blanchett - Best Actress for Elizabeth: The Golden Age, Best Supporting Actress for I'm Not There
Roger Deakins - Cinematography for The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford, and No Country For Old Men
You're forgetting the Coens, who are up for Director, Screenplay, Editing (Jaynes is a joint pseudonym) and Picture (they're both credited as producers)
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Julie Christie won her first Lead Actress Academy Award in 1966, for the film Darling. If Christie wins for Away From Her, there will be 42 years difference between her first and 2nd win. This is Christie's 3rd nomination. She was also nominated in 1972 for McCabe & Mrs. Miller.
She was also nominated for Afterglow in 1997 (I always use the year the performance is being recognized for, as opposed to the year in which the nomination is merely announced).
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Also, Ruby Dee now holds the record for shortest performance nominated for an Oscar.
I'm pretty sure Beatrice Straight still holds this record (grab your stopwatch!)

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Old 01-22-2008, 11:12 AM
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Have seen 50-75% of the films. Boring all around. Juno was nice, and I like it when smaller pics get attention, but I wouldn't have pegged it as Oscar-worthy. Ellen Page is talented but she's got a future of great performances ahead of her. Sarah Polley should have gotten a nom for Best Director.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:19 AM
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ArchiveGuy, of course you're right about the Coens! How could I have missed that. I should have held it back and thought it over some more. And I can't believe I missed the Afterglow nomination for Julie Christie too.

I liked reading your Trivia points, they were interesting.


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Hello Kitty took the words right out of my mouth!: "honestly There Will be Blood and No Country for Old Men sound utterly boring and pretentious to me. " From their descriptions I can't imagine putting down money to see those in a theatre.
I'll also step in and say that neither of those movies are pretentious or boring in any way. No Country For Old Men is edge-of-your-seat thrilling almost all throughout. There Will Be Blood isn't thrilling in the same way, but it's fascinating and engrossing. I've seen No Country twice and There Will Be Blood 3 times (and want to see that one again). There Will Be Blood is, in my opinion, by far the best movie of the year, and Daniel Day-Lewis gives one of the best performances ever.

Daniel Day-Lewis will win. There can't be any question about that. If he doesn't, it will go down in Academy history as the biggest blunder ever made (at least, since Citizen Kane lost Best Picture).

Since No Country For Old Men is a masterpiece too, and directed by the Coen Brothers, if There Will Be Blood loses to it that's fine with me. It'll be one classic masterpiece losing to another classic masterpiece. It'd be interesting if there were a Picture/Director split though.

Either:

Best Picture: No Country For Old Men
Best Director: Paul Thomas Anderson for There Will Be Blood

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Best Picture: There Will Be Blood
Best Director: Joen Coen and Ethan Coen for No Country For Old Men

Either one of those would be alright with me.

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Old 01-22-2008, 11:31 AM
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Sound Mixer Kevin O'Connell now has 20 nominations (no wins yet).
Other nominees with high career counts:

Alan Menken (Enchanted, Song): 18 career nods (8 wins)
Randy Thom (Ratatouille, Sound Mixing & Sound Editing): 14 career nods (2 wins)
Greg P. Russell (Transformers, Sound Mixing): 12 career nods (0 wins)
Rick Baker (Norbit, Makeup): 11 career nods (6 wins)
Dante Ferretti (Sweeney Todd, Art Direction): 9 career nods (1 win)
John Frazier (Pirates 3 & Transformers, Visual Effects): 9 career nods (0 wins)
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:47 AM
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Regarding "No Country..." and "There will be Blood": They are probably good movies. But I have to decide how to spend my limited movie dollars somehow. Sometimes I'll go see a movie because of particular actor or director. I use summaries of the plot, reviews, comments from others, the usual. Everything I read about these two films indicates a movie I personally would not enjoy. Maybe I'll catch them on DVD.

I too am glad Viggo Mortensen's wonderful acting got noticed.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:58 AM
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They did. Roderick Jaynes was nominated for No Country For Old Men.
So he (they) did! I went to IMDb and they just had the Coen's names.

This is a really strong year. I think to honour the occasion I'll go see a movie after I do a little bit of work.
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:09 PM
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Count me in as another who would have liked to see Into The Wild get more recognition, although I can't seem to come up with a great case for any single category, except Eddie Vedder for song and soundtrack! How could he get shut out?

"Guaranteed" won the Golden Globe and the soundtrack to the film was letter perfect. What a snub.
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:23 PM
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Phillip Seymour Hoffman becomes the 18th performer to be nominated for an acting Oscar under Mike Nichols' direction (the 6th highest of all-time)

Updated nomination totals for films directed by...
42 Mike Nichols (11 films)
31 Ridley Scott (8 films)
18 Joel Coen (4 films)
15 Tim Burton (9 films)
14 Paul Thomas Anderson (3 films)
12 Michael Bay (4 films)

Updated nomination totals for films featuring (including voice work)...
82 Ian Holm (18 films) (7th highest of all living actors)
70 Cate Blanchett (12 films)
68 Tom Hanks (17 films)
65 Ed Harris (18 films)
64 Daniel Day-Lewis (12 films)
63 Vanessa Redgrave (15 films)
61 John Ratzenberger (15 films)
60 Geoffrey Rush (13 films)
57 Peter O'Toole (16 films)
55 Robin Williams (20 films)
54 Julie Christie (15 films), Morgan Freeman (17 films), Tom Wilkinson (12 films)
53 Russell Crowe (8 films), Max von Sydow (18 films)
52 Christopher Lee (17 films)
49 Tommy Lee Jones (12 films), Viggo Mortensen (11 films)
48 Scott Glenn (11 films)
46 Orlando Bloom (8 films), Albert Finney (13 films)
44 Johnny Depp (15 films)
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:59 PM
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[*]Cate Blanchett becomes only the 2nd performer (after winner Linda Hunt) to be nominated for playing a member of the opposite gender
Um, Hilary Swank ??

Or, what about Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie? Or Julie Andrews in Victor, Victoria (both nominated the same year, 1983, incidentally) That was quite a year for gender bender roles.

Love all the Oscar trivia!
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:04 PM
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Um, Hilary Swank ??

Or, what about Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie? Or Julie Andrews in Victor, Victoria (both nominated the same year, 1983, incidentally) That was quite a year for gender bender roles.
Everyone you cite played characters of the same gender who were masquerading as the opposite gender. Swank played a chick pretending to be a dude, Hoffman an actor pretending to be an actress, etc.

Hunt and Blanchett played Men. Not women-passing-for-men. Men.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:38 PM
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Everyone you cite played characters of the same gender who were masquerading as the opposite gender. Swank played a chick pretending to be a dude, Hoffman an actor pretending to be an actress, etc.

Hunt and Blanchett played Men. Not women-passing-for-men. Men.
Oh, I see what you mean. Hilary Swank's performance was so good I kinda forgot she was a chick playing a dude...I sometimes think of her character as a dude exclusively.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:59 PM
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Everyone you cite played characters of the same gender who were masquerading as the opposite gender. Swank played a chick pretending to be a dude, Hoffman an actor pretending to be an actress, etc.

Hunt and Blanchett played Men. Not women-passing-for-men. Men.
I'd need to see I'm Not There again to be 100% sure, but in it I seem to remember a high-school yearbook at the end, which showed Jude as a woman, therefore, Jude was a woman pretending to be a man.



About my predictions, which I'll put here rather than revive the other thread...

I didn't do too badly. In the Top 8 I predicted 34/40. I did very well on choosing Alternates, but they don't count, and I didn't count them in that 34/40 score.

Best:
I got 5/5 on Best Supporting Actor, Best Original Screenplay, and Best Cinematography.

Worst:
Original Song 2/5 because I didn't think Enchanted would get all 3.
Sound Editing 1/5 because I didn't even really try on that one. I get the Sound categories mixed up and didn't research it enough.

My total for everything except Foreign/Docs/Shorts, which I didn't predict, was 64/89.

BEST PICTURE (4/5, with Atonement as a Dark Horse)
BEST DIRECTOR (4/5, didn't even have Reitman as a Dark Horse!)
BEST ACTOR (4/5, had Tommy Lee Jones as a Dark Horse)
BEST ACTRESS (4/5, had Laura Linney as a Dark Horse)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR (5/5)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS (4/5, had Saorise Ronan as an Alternate)
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY (5/5)
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY (4/5, didn't even have Sarah Polley as a Dark Horse!)

34/40

BEST ANIMATED FILM (2/3, didn't even have Surf's Up as a Dark Horse!)
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY (5/5)
BEST COSTUME DESIGN (3/5, had La Vie en Rose as an Alternate, and Across The Universe as a Dark Horse)
BEST ART DIRECTION (3/5, had American Gangster as Alternate, and Golden Compass as Dark Horse)
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE (3/5, had 3:10 as Alternate, but didn't even have Michael Clayton as a Dark Horse!)
BEST ORIGINAL SONG (2/5, had Happy Working Song as Alternate, but didn't even have So Close or Raise It Up as Dark Horses!)
BEST EDITING (4/5, but had Diving Bell as an Alternate)
BEST SOUND MIXING (3/5, didn't even have Ratatouille, or 3:10 To Yuma as Dark Horses!)
BEST SOUND EDITING (1/5, I suck)
BEST VISUAL EFFECTS (2/3, but had Golden Compass as Alternate)
BEST MAKE UP (2/3, but had Norbit as a VERY Dark Horse)

Total: 64/89, blah
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Old 01-22-2008, 03:10 PM
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Love all the Oscar trivia!
A couple more:

Elizabeth I becomes only the second role to earn 3 separate acting nominations (Blanchett twice, plus winner Judi Dench). The other is Elizabeth's father, Henry VIII (Robert Shaw, Richard Burton, and winner Charles Laughton).

Blanchett also becomes the only person to earn nominations for playing two different real-life Oscar winners: Katherine Hepburn and Bob Dylan

Updated list of films with high Oscar-nominees-within-their-cast Counts
All the President's Men: 11
Ocean's 12: 10
Adaptation: 8
Just Cause: 8
Midway: 8
The Firm: 7
Hercules: 7 (more than any other animated film, IIRC)
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if "Norbit" won an Oscar?
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Old 01-22-2008, 03:43 PM
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Uh, no.
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Old 01-22-2008, 03:44 PM
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Worst Nominations

3 Enchanted songs nominated (over anything from Into the Wild or Hairspray)

I loved the music of Enchanted, but I'm afraid 3 noms will split the vote and one of the other two nominees will win.

But, is anything from Hairspray even eligible? My understanding is that all the music from Hairspray was done first either on Broadway or in the previous version, which would make them ineligible.

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Everyone you cite played characters of the same gender who were masquerading as the opposite gender.
How 'bout John Lithgow for The World According to Garp (also 1983)?
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How 'bout John Lithgow for The World According to Garp (also 1983)?
He was post-op in that film, so yeah, that counts. Well done.
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I loved the music of Enchanted, but I'm afraid 3 noms will split the vote and one of the other two nominees will win.

But, is anything from Hairspray even eligible? My understanding is that all the music from Hairspray was done first either on Broadway or in the previous version, which would make them ineligible.
Hairspray did have a couple new songs, including "Come So Far (Got So Far to Go)"--not great, but still, come on! Let's spread the wealth a little (especially since "So Close" is a snoozer and "Happy Working Song" is a cutsie throw-away at best).

I hope you're right about the vote-split though (it certainly seemed to do the trick with Dreamgirls last year) because that would almost guarantee an Oscar forOnce, and that would be well-deserved indeed.
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:16 PM
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Just got back from seeing There Will Be Blood, the last of the nominees I hadn't seen. Very disappointing. I thought it was a great performance by Daniel Day Lewis in an otherwise mediocre film. None of the characters responded or behaved in the way real people do. And whoever wrote the screenplay has obviously never seen the inside of a church, because the church scenes were ludicrous and surreal.

Out of the films nominated, my pick would be No Country for Old Men. I believe No Country and Juno will be the only films among the best picture nominees that will be regarded as classics 15 years from now. Michael Clayton is also very good, but not quite that level.

It's a shame that Into the Wild didn't get nominated. I believe it will also be well-regarded for a long time.

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Old 01-22-2008, 04:16 PM
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Dreamgirls[/i] last year) because that would almost guarantee an Oscar forOnce, and that would be well-deserved indeed.
Oh hell yeah. "Falling Slowly" is the best song to be nominated for an Oscar in a long time. And since "Once" was my favorite movie last year, I'd love to see it get some recognition on Oscar night.
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:29 PM
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if "Norbit" won an Oscar?
I can just see the top of the DVD case right now...

heh.
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Here are some nice reactions from some of the nominees.
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I'm just glad Gone Baby Gone got no nominations as it was Shit Baby Shit

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I haven't seen a single nominee, probably because I only saw two theatrical releases in 2007 (Die Hard 17 and the god-awful Knocked Up, which I am so glad got shut out.) The good news is I now have many more films to add to my Netflix queue.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:51 PM
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I'm just glad Gone Baby Gone got no nominations as it was Shit Baby Shit
Amy Ryan got her nomination for best supporting actress rescinded?
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:58 PM
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Y'all, geez! If I may...

There Will Be Blood is an instant classic, a true American epic.
Michael Clayton is a very good movie, especially for a first feature.
Gone Baby Gone is a very good movie, especially for a first feature.
Knocked Up was one of the funniest and heartfelt movies of the year.

Anymore debunking needs to be done I'll be back.
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