I hit 60 in WoW... now what?

I hit level 60. I went to Shattrath and joined the Aldor (slightly better for Hunter, I guess.) I got my improved riding skill.

But y’know, I’m not sure what I want to do now. I’ve had awful experiences partying most of the time. It just makes me sick. I don’t claim to be the greatest gamer of all time, but no one listens to me and no one seems to know how to play. I’ve at least toyed with every class and understand what they can do; when I see the mages pulling, the healers tanking, and then people whining at me because I’m targeting the Low-HP-but-Hi-DPS mobs while they blast away whittling down the tank mob’s health… I get angry.

I do kinda enjoy PVP, but it’s not that fun. Mostly, I sneak around taking out weakened punks, then eventually someone takes me out because I’m too weakened…

SO I’m looking towards the endgame, and it’s like… yay. What’s there realy to do for me? My goal used to be to get to Outland, but well, now I’m here. Gear and gold is flowing into my fingers. Terrific. What is there to do anymore?

Turn off the computer and go outside. It’s a nice day out.

:wink: (kidding, not snarky)

Post your character on craigslist and get some sex out of it.

:wink:

The entire end-game of WoW is based on gathing money, maxing out your rep, raiding with large guilds, and PvP. If none of those things appeal to you, start a new character or find a new game.

I just came across this guide about what to do at 60, while I was trying to decide whether to play WOW. http://pc.gamespy.com/guides/wowat60/

There are still lots of single-player quests from 60-70. I think I only did one post-60 dungeon the entire time I was in the Outlands.

Find a good (or better) guild and start raiding. Easier said that done, but if you enjoy dungeons and grouping it can be a lot of fun with the right people, and especially in raiding guilds there’s ALWAYS something new to look forward to, even if it’s not in game yet.

Go to Disneyworld?

If you’re level 60 in an MMORPG, then you might be doing a lot of things, but “partying” isn’t one of them. :wink:
I suggest a softball league. Hi-arc until you get good.

Ultimate is also fun. Semi-competitive and a great way to make friends who aren’t Night Elf Mohawks.

[sub]Maybe Scrappy hacked the game and MADE a Mohawk class! Did you ever think of THAT, Mr. Condescending Producer?!?!?[/sub]

Wow, is this the first WOW thread in GR? It’s kind of hard to say what leveling is like these days, as I was 60 when the expansion came out, so I did most of my leveling during the rush. It was a bit different later when I came back from some time off, everyone else was already 70, so I did a lot more soloing and PUG runs to level.

My first question is, are you in a guild? Figure out what you want to do, and try to find a guild that focuses on that aspect. Do you look forward to smaller raids (KZ and ZA), maybe you want to eventually do the larger 25-man raids or do some PVP or level a bunch of different alts? If you don’t have any real life friends that play, it’s a bit harder to find a guild you’ll like and fit in with otherwise.

I found getting in a good guild to be a major aspect of improving the enjoyability of the game. We joke around, people are helpful when we want to do heroic runs or group quests or need help farming mats. We do have scheduled raid times that tend to be a little more serious, just because it requires more focus when we’re learning a new boss. We also sometimes group up and do PVP.

As for PVP, it’s moderately fun when you join a queue solo, but having a pre-made makes it an enormous amount of fun. FOA, I know everyone I’m playing with is skilled and well geared. We also have quick and effective communication (thanks to Ventrilo) and we play well together. The best part of PVP is testing reaction and real-time strategizing. For instance, in Arathi Basin, they launch an attack on one of our resources, do we send reinforcements? If so, where do we pull them from? Do we instead just try to hold them off long enough to flank them and take one of their resources instead?

Beyond that, for instancing, particularly with leveling nerfed significantly, you’re going to run into a LOT of people in PUG runs that just don’t know what they’re doing. I’ve been playing the same class for over two years now, and I’m still constantly learning new things to improve my play style. I can’t imagine a tank able to get to the 50-60 level range in a week or two will really understand how to tank. Especially as a healer myself, I can’t imagine a healer being very good without that little amount of practice, particularly considering most healers level with more damage friend specs (Priests tend to level as Shadow, Paladins as Ret, Shamans as Elemental or Enhancement, Druids as Moonkin or Feral, etc.). Even worse, for a lot of experienced players, they get use to getting guildies or friends to twink them through instances, so they get even less practice with their class. Countless times I’ve run into brand-new 70 tanks who don’t know how to hold aggro or refuse to use a shield. I’ve run into DPSers who don’t understand the concept of aggro management. When I’ve run as DPS (when grinding rep, and with my gear I can DPS better than most 70s as healing spec anyway), I’ve seen healers who don’t know how to prioritize their healing targets and manage their mana.

Anyway, to get back on topic, try to find a guild you feel you fit into and whose players you like playing with. Spend some time reading about your class; I find playing much more enjoyable when I discover newer, more advanced techniques that keep me challenged. And, of course, try out the different aspects of the game and figure out what you want to do with that character or even if you want to try another class altogether. Finally, make sure you’re having fun, if the game starts to get tedious or boring, just stop or take a break. For example, sometimes I enjoy doing lots of heroics and other runs, recently I haven’t, but I still enjoy raiding, so I only really log on to raid and do what I need to to keep up with raid costs (reagents, repairs, consumables, mats, etc.).

Honestly? I’m hitting that plateau, too, but mine’s coming later. By the end of next week, I’ll have my fourth level 70 character, and it’s just getting tiring. Now, I have two reasons to continue playing:

  1. I play with my friends. That’s something in and of itself. If they stopped, I’d likely (nay, definately) stop, too. It’s socializing I can do in my bathrobe.

  2. Lore. Lore lore lore. It’s what I play the game for. I love finding out the little details of each of the races, the history, things people haven’t seen before (okay, none of the non-lore-junkies have). I told my friend who plays an ‘uber-pvp’ rogue about the history of the trolls a few days ago, and he was pretty astounded.

  3. Hi, Opal.

The second reason is why I might stick with it. To be honest, I’m thinking of starting horde characters to plumb the depths of their lore, as I seem to’ve run out of the Alliance-side stuff.

(Oh, and as another side note- A guild can make all the difference. I like the folks in mine, and… Well… Two weeks ago a guild officer made a new character and started sending mysterious letters to guild members about traitors in our midsts and evil powers arising. It took us a week to realize it wasn’t a GM-thing, and said guild-officer has made up something for us to do as a group, based around the letters, this upcoming Sunday. I love the idea that someone is doing this!)

So, in a nutshell- my advice. Find people you like to play with. Find something about the game that you -do- like that isn’t grind related… Or, well, find something else to do. Not playing WoW isn’t going to kill you or stunt your growth.

(Hunter 70 / Mage 70 / Warrior 70 / Priest 69 on Alleria).

Crash a funeral.

My Belf paladin is at 52 and I decided long ago what I will and won’t do with this 'toon. (I already have a 70 rogue, Alliance side.)

Among the activities you could try:

  • solo or duo with a friend. I duoed with a good friend from 20 to 70 and had a blast.
  • 5-man instances. Best done with guildies, though that’s no guarantee of a smooth ride. At least you’re more likely to laugh at dumb mistakes with friends than a PUG.
  • Arena PVP. Haven’t done any of this, but if you have a buddy or four you could have some fun and get great gear.
  • earn faction rep. Go to wowwiki.com and check out the different Outland faction rep rewards. You might find an item or recipe you want.
  • old endgame content. We formed a guild party and smashed our way through instances like Strat as lvl 65s. It was easy, and fun. The drops weren’t spectacular, though we did get a couple Righteous Orbs. I always wondered if you could 5-man Onyxia with lvl 70s.

Mostly, I would recommend you find a way to enjoy the game. Quest as much as you want, and only pick the ones you really want to do. Just explore, if you want. Don’t play, if you don’t want to. Focus less on your level and enjoy the game. It’s not a race.

If you’re a hunter, you have to develop asbestos skin. You will be blamed for whatever goes wrong, because when bad stuff happens usually nobody knows WHY it happened, and are just happy to deflect blame away from themselves. No matter how much you try to convince someone to get behind a corner and out of line of sight to pull a mob, its YOUR fault when the group wipes because you sent your pet to tank the adds your jackass group mate accidentally pulled.

If you can learn to deal with people blaming you for their own stupid mistakes, then you can probably have a lot of fun doing PUG 5mans. That’s basically how I spent the last year on that game before I finally left it for real life.

good golly… my highest character is only 54.

I started 2 new ones on a different server to get my daughter started and also because it’s the server the SO’s kids are on.

I spend a lot of time on the professions - fishing, cooking, alchemy, etc. And I’m always broke - heck, I haven’t even purchased a mount for my hunter!

I was going to say “sell it on eBay”, but this post stopped me. Something tells me this really happened?

I have three level 70s (Frost mage for arenas/battlegronds, Fire mage for instances, Rogue for ARPEE and World PvP) as well as several 60s for crafting.

First off if your not in a guild join one. Research what their interests are before joining and make sure they match your own. One of the draws of a Moo is to interact with others. If your not then your missing the point.

Stay away from Pugs, even in Outlands, at that level you’ll run into at least one person in every party who has no idea what he’s doing and will refuse to the death, usually yours, to change what he’s doing.

Things I do that keep me in the game;

I’m a completest. So having all the mounts, or a full set of twill or even just every type of egg in game consumes a lot of my free time.

Max out your crafting which is fairly easy once you hit Outlands.

Play the auction House. I have a level 20 warlock that sits at the Auction House on Sunday mornings and does nothing but buys and sells what the raiders put up after their Saturday night runs. I make a lot of gold at this but its more because of an interest in the economy.

Solo those instances that you ran through on your way to sixty. Theres a lot of very cool stuff in them if you take the time to look around.

Lore, Lore, Lore.

…And then Level to seventy.

Then make another post “What do I do now?” :slight_smile:

For what it’s worth, I found levelling my Mage from 60-70 was much faster than 50-60. And that’s only using solo Outland quests.

I got burnt out very quickly PvP’ing on my Mage though, so now I’m making a Rogue (level 57 at the moment). It feels so good sneaking up on Warlocks and ripping them apart. Well, the below-average Warlocks anyway…

Some chick swapped some hoochie for enough gold to buy an epic flying mount.

I hated PVP until I started in the battlegrounds. I’ve got a level 67 hunter.

I’m striving for 70. You can get to 70 doing ONLY solo (or two man) quests. Not hard at all.

You can also get pretty good XP doing the daily battleground quest (around 11000 XP a pop) and all you have to do is win the BG of the day.