The Straight Dope

Go Back   Straight Dope Message Board > Main > In My Humble Opinion (IMHO)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:19 PM
Omega Glory Omega Glory is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
what does a curvy body look like?

If someone you've never seen in person describes herself as "curvy" what kind of body type do you picture?

Basically, I'm wondering if curvy = overweight to most, or person of any size with an hourglass figure.
Reply With Quote
Advertisements  
  #2  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:21 PM
Malthus Malthus is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Depends on context. If it was a self-description on a dating site, I'd assume it was a more flattering synonym for "overweight".
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:24 PM
Gary "Wombat" Robson Gary "Wombat" Robson is offline
Vombatus Moderatus
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Montana, U.S.A.
Posts: 9,098
As I would use it (I'm male), it means that there are noticeable curves at hips, waist, chest, and so forth. Think Marilyn Monroe as opposed to Twiggy.

That said, there are most certainly women that use it as a synonym for overweight when speaking about themselves.
__________________
Everything in moderation!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Binarydrone Binarydrone is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
This should be everything you need to know
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:26 PM
Binarydrone Binarydrone is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Except, it would seem, curvy.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:29 PM
Chez Guevara Chez Guevara is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Nigella Lawson.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:30 PM
Sunspace Sunspace is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Back in the GT eeehhhh...
Posts: 24,945
Plump, big-breasted, wide-hipped: an hourglass figure. I'd try to name some celebrities, but a) I don't follow celebrities, and b) women with that kind of figure tend to overheat my brain and shut off the cognitive functions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chez Guevara View Post
Hello!

Last edited by Sunspace; 12-05-2008 at 02:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:45 PM
Ethilrist Ethilrist is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
If I'm feeling optimistic, "curvy" means somebody like Kim Kardashian and her sisters. If pessimistic, more like Rosie O'Donnell. In between, Oprah. Difference being, ratio of concave to convex curves. The problem being that we don't really have a simple term for "not overweight, not skinny, has hips, thighs and breasts that can be recognized as such from a distance."
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:45 PM
Invisible Chimp Invisible Chimp is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
I think it depends on if you're a man or a woman. Women often use it as an euphemism for fat and men use it to describe women like Nigella Lawson, or, as my Black friends might say, "thick."
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:46 PM
Chez Guevara Chez Guevara is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Nigella is totally my ideal woman.

Delicious curves.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:50 PM
Telperien Telperien is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
I would use it as a synonym for "having an hourglass figure." A fat woman could be curvy, as there are many fat women with hourglass figures, and a thin woman could be curvy as well. I think it's a pretty goofy thing to use it as a euphemism for overweight or fat or whatever you want to call it, and I have actually gotten into Stupid Internet Arguments over use of the term.

Of course, this is because of a freaky culture that doesn't allow you to call yourself or someone else fat unless you're using it as an insult.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:53 PM
astro astro is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Taint of creation
Posts: 28,367
Doper twickster
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-05-2008, 02:55 PM
TWDuke TWDuke is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethilrist View Post
The problem being that we don't really have a simple term for "not overweight, not skinny, has hips, thighs and breasts that can be recognized as such from a distance."
I've heard the term "thick" used to mean something like that (mostly by and of African-Americans, though).
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:03 PM
Stuffy Stuffy is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chez Guevara View Post
That's what I picture, speaking of which, do you have anymore. Am I the only guy around that's not attracted to the 12 y/o boy look?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:06 PM
ShibbOleth ShibbOleth is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Here's my ideal. There are a lot of women who look more or less like that in Tampa (in terms of body shape) with our heavenly influx of people from the Caribbean basin. Three of the moms for my daughter's soccer team would fit this description. I love Saturdays.

A bit more curvy.

Here's an interesting photo. The one on the right is curvy, the one on the left is skinny, and the one in the middle is a bit pale for my tastes.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:06 PM
Ethilrist Ethilrist is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
I'm having difficulty thinking of "thick" as anything but an insult.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:08 PM
Stuffy Stuffy is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethilrist View Post
I'm having difficulty thinking of "thick" as anything but an insult.
It's not, it's a compliment.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:09 PM
DigitalC DigitalC is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
It SHOULD mean something like Salma Hayek, Kim Kardassian or the late Anna Nicole Smith. In internet talk just like "cuddly", "voluptuous", "full figured", "a few extra pounds", etc. It all means "really fat".
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:15 PM
Nzinga, Seated Nzinga, Seated is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
I think most people mean slim but with a waist smaller than hips and bust.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:27 PM
Asimovian Asimovian is online now
Pseudolegal
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Southern California
Posts: 7,427
To quote one of the famous philosophers of our time:

"Little in the middle but she got much back!"

<whipcrack>

ETA: I'd never looked at pictures of Nigella until this thread, and I must say she is a lovely looking lady.

Last edited by Asimovian; 12-05-2008 at 03:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:35 PM
Snarky_Kong Snarky_Kong is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
I would assume that it means fat. Ideally it would mean having hips and breasts, but it's just a euphemism.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:44 PM
CAT=^..^= CAT=^..^= is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarky_Kong View Post
I would assume that it means fat. Ideally it would mean having hips and breasts, but it's just a euphemism.
I am fat, and I would never call myself curvy because I am not, and never have been, even when I wasn't fat.
So my thought is that the person has a bigger bust, and hips than they do a waist. They could be a curvy size 6, 14, or 24. But it doesn't automatically conjur up fat to me.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:45 PM
Troy McClure SF Troy McClure SF is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: San Francisco, NL West.
Posts: 8,089
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShibbOleth View Post
Here's an interesting photo. The one on the right is curvy, the one on the left is skinny, and the one in the middle is a bit pale for my tastes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalC
It SHOULD mean something like Salma Hayek, Kim Kardassian or the late Anna Nicole Smith. In internet talk just like "cuddly", "voluptuous", "full figured", "a few extra pounds", etc. It all means "really fat".
Agreed.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-05-2008, 03:54 PM
Harmonious Discord Harmonious Discord is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
A healthy weight with some hips and tits. Once the waddles of fat or cellulite show up, it's not curvy. A scrawny woman is not curvy. You don't see muscles and tendons well defined if they are curvy.

Last edited by Harmonious Discord; 12-05-2008 at 03:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 12-05-2008, 04:01 PM
SharkB8 SharkB8 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Top and bottom.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 12-05-2008, 04:27 PM
Green Cymbeline Green Cymbeline is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4,306
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShibbOleth View Post
Here's an interesting photo. The one on the right is curvy, the one on the left is skinny, and the one in the middle is a bit pale for my tastes.
I would say that the girl on the right is a good example of "curvy."

These girls would probably be considered curvy.

This girl and this girl (from the Dove ads) are curvy.

Here is a funny demotivational poster that describes curvy pretty well.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 12-05-2008, 04:54 PM
elfkin477 elfkin477 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NH
Posts: 18,612
Curvy used to mean something other than what it seems to mean now, didn't it? It used to mean an hourglass figure, but now seems to be a polite way of saying overweight; it used to mean Marilyn Monroe but now seems to mean a pre-diet Queen Latifah. Like petite used to mean someone short and small-boned like my aunts, but now you can find clothes that are size 24W marked "petite."

With the way words have been, um, adjusted, if I were to use an online dating service, I have no idea which descriptive term goes with 37-28-38. I could stand to lose 10 or 15 pounds, but I take it "a few extra pounds" doesn't really mean a few....
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 12-05-2008, 04:57 PM
Cervaise Cervaise is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Kate Winslet when she isn't starving herself for Hollywood.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12-05-2008, 05:09 PM
Monstera deliciosa Monstera deliciosa is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 50 miles NW of Chicago
Posts: 1,028
Quote:
Originally Posted by elfkin477 View Post
Curvy used to mean something other than what it seems to mean now, didn't it? It used to mean an hourglass figure, but now seems to be a polite way of saying overweight; it used to mean Marilyn Monroe but now seems to mean a pre-diet Queen Latifah. Like petite used to mean someone short and small-boned like my aunts, but now you can find clothes that are size 24W marked "petite."

With the way words have been, um, adjusted, if I were to use an online dating service, I have no idea which descriptive term goes with 37-28-38. I could stand to lose 10 or 15 pounds, but I take it "a few extra pounds" doesn't really mean a few....
In clothing sizes, "Petite" means (and has meant for many years--since I was young, and I'm 48 now) clothing proportioned for women shorter than 5'4". It has nothing to do with weight. A 24W petite is proportioned for a short, heavy woman.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 12-05-2008, 05:14 PM
Evil Captor Evil Captor is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
It's so simple. Curvy = large breasts, narrow waist, wide hips. the breasts curve outward, then the waist curves inward, then the hips curve outward. The more pronounced the curves, the curvier you are.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 12-05-2008, 05:17 PM
The Great Sun Jester The Great Sun Jester is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chez Guevara View Post
She looks like a pretty Michael Jackson. And yeah, she's "curvy."

I did have one woman online describe herself as "Curvy. Like Queen Latiffah." It's code for "overwieght and I know it but I like my body anyway."
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 12-05-2008, 05:21 PM
buttonjockey308 buttonjockey308 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Some might say Her

Others would say Her

You'd be closer in my book to say Her

Also in my ballpark is Her

She starts the foot to tapping

She Tops the list.

Along with Her

Curvy is somewhat subjective, to me it means the ultimate in feminine.

Last edited by Marley23; 12-06-2008 at 12:26 PM. Reason: fixed links
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 12-05-2008, 05:23 PM
Sleeps With Butterflies Sleeps With Butterflies is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by buttonjockey308 View Post
Some might say Her

Others would say Her

You'd be closer in my book to say Her

Also in my ballpark is Her

She starts the foot to tapping

She Tops the list.

Along with Her

Curvy is somewhat subjective, to me it means the ultimate in feminine.
Most of those can't be viewed

Last edited by Marley23; 12-06-2008 at 12:27 PM. Reason: fixed links
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 12-05-2008, 05:30 PM
KarlGrenze KarlGrenze is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyctea scandiaca View Post
I would say that the girl on the right is a good example of "curvy."

These girls would probably be considered curvy.

This girl and this girl (from the Dove ads) are curvy.

Here is a funny demotivational poster that describes curvy pretty well.
With all due respect, nyctea scandiaca, your post shows exactly the confusion in usage of the term. Some of those girls are not curvy. Overweight, yes, fat, yes, ugly, no, hell no, and curvy some of them they sure ain't.

One can be curvy at many weights... When I weighted more and was a bit fat, I was curvy (waist narrower than hips and bust). Now that I've lost some weight (and intend on keep losing it and keeping it off), I'm still damn curvy! My body is curvy... In order to force it against that mold, I would either had to gain or lose a hell lot of weight (not interested).

When I was in high school, one of my classmates was fat. Not curvy, but fat. No shape or form, just fat. She lost weight (good for her!)... and guess what... she was slender/skinny. Not curvy, but thin. Still had no curves. Ugly? Well, since I disliked her personality, she was ugly to me always...
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 12-05-2008, 05:59 PM
DigitalC DigitalC is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlGrenze View Post
With all due respect, nyctea scandiaca, your post shows exactly the confusion in usage of the term. Some of those girls are not curvy. Overweight, yes, fat, yes, ugly, no, hell no, and curvy some of them they sure ain't.
I agree but glad you said it first.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 12-05-2008, 06:07 PM
Dread Pirate Jimbo Dread Pirate Jimbo is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chez Guevara View Post
I love Nigella and want to marry her, but my wife won't let me.

Nigella is curvy. When I think curvy I don't think "fat." I think "woman with tits and hips." I also think the emaciated Size 0 look that is currently the Hollywood standard for What Is Attractive is decidedly unattractive. I like women to look like women, and not twelve-year-old boys. Just my opinion, though.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 12-05-2008, 06:48 PM
monstro monstro is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
When I think curvy, I think of a classic pear-shaped body. Narrow waist, but possessing a big booty and ample thighage. So using this definition apple-shaped people aren't curvy. Someone must come up with a descriptive, non-insulting word for these folks.

Alicia Keys and Beyonce Knowles (when she's at her normal weight...and last time I saw her she wasn't) are two people off the top of my head who aren't fat but are definitely curvy.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 12-05-2008, 06:58 PM
Snarky_Kong Snarky_Kong is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT=^..^= View Post
I am fat, and I would never call myself curvy because I am not, and never have been, even when I wasn't fat.
So my thought is that the person has a bigger bust, and hips than they do a waist. They could be a curvy size 6, 14, or 24. But it doesn't automatically conjur up fat to me.
I agree that's what it's supposed to mean. Bum around an online dating site though and you'll notice a difference in usage.

That sucks for the legitimately curvy women out there.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 12-05-2008, 06:59 PM
DigitalC DigitalC is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Theres a difference between what curvy really means and what it means when someone describes themselves as curvy. Everyone knows what the word really means, but thats not how its been used since online dating profiles started using those code words for people who just don't want to admit they are fat. If you are really curvy you don't say you are curvy, you just show a picture because real curvy is freaking hot.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 12-05-2008, 07:11 PM
pulykamell pulykamell is online now
Charter Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: SW Side, Chicago
Posts: 25,371
Joan from Mad Men.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 12-05-2008, 07:27 PM
olivesmarch4th olivesmarch4th is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Exit 9
Posts: 10,678
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunspace View Post
Plump, big-breasted, wide-hipped: an hourglass figure...
You have just described me. I am curvy. A little overweight, large bust, hips that proportionally match my large bust, me! (I say if you have to wear a dress to show off your body, you ain't curvy.) Not everyone's standard of beauty, to be sure. But some of the comments in this thread remind me there's room for us in the spectrum, too.

ETA: Beyonce Knowles, monstro, happens to be my idealization of the perfect body. That woman is smoking and she's the Queen of the 1% of Women I Would Fuck In a Red Hot Minute.

Last edited by olivesmarch4th; 12-05-2008 at 07:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 12-05-2008, 07:33 PM
ToeJam ToeJam is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShibbOleth View Post
Here's an interesting photo. The one on the right is curvy, the one on the left is skinny, and the one in the middle is a bit pale for my tastes.
Holy crap, she's just right!
:melts:

Why yes, I do like "curvy" people... but Hips more so, and Hips doesn't not equal Butt, there IS a difference!

When I think of Curvy, I tend to think of Faye from QC [one on the right]. She's not obese in her BMI, but she's not skinny, or perhaps even average.

Another image of Faye just for fun.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 12-05-2008, 07:49 PM
Eliahna Eliahna is online now
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Victoria, Australia
Posts: 5,957
Quote:
Originally Posted by Binarydrone View Post
Heh, awesome. I'm totally rewriting my profile to this list. I'm now a stable, employed, reliable, romantic woman who is fun, financially secure and who loves animals!
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 12-05-2008, 08:42 PM
drastic_quench drastic_quench is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Joan, played by Christina Hendricks, from Mad Men is a textbook curvy.
Behold! http://i35.tinypic.com/2lw7xfn.jpg
The cincher (ha!) is the waist. Lots of perfectly nice looking women have larger breasts and hips, but without a real waist, there's no real curve. No overall hourglass figure, no curve - breast and hip size regardless.

Now, the accurate term for larger attractive women that lack the waist to be curvy is "zaftig". Nothing wrong with being zaftig, and I think it sounds a lot more flattering than rubenesque.

Personally, I dig curvy women. I think they look healthy all around. Zaftig women can edge into the not-remotely-athletic category which I don't care for. I don't need a women to be up for a marathon, but looking like your up for a hike is a big plus.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 12-05-2008, 09:15 PM
MissIntent MissIntent is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
It's depressing how surprised I was when I realized that men love this body type. I grew up thinking women came in two categories. Skinny or ugly.

16 - 21 would have been so much easier if I had just realized that I could be hot just being me.

Oh, and as far as the actual point of this thread... I like the description a poster above gave. Boobs and hips/butt curve out, and waist curves in.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 12-05-2008, 09:44 PM
MeanJoe MeanJoe is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShibbOleth View Post
Here's my ideal. There are a lot of women who look more or less like that in Tampa (in terms of body shape) with our heavenly influx of people from the Caribbean basin. Three of the moms for my daughter's soccer team would fit this description. I love Saturdays.

A bit more curvy.

Here's an interesting photo. The one on the right is curvy, the one on the left is skinny, and the one in the middle is a bit pale for my tastes.
I am quitting my job, selling my house in this market at a loss, and moving to Tampa!

I'll. Be. In. My. Bunk!


MeanJoe
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 12-05-2008, 09:50 PM
zweisamkeit zweisamkeit is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
I have to laugh at a few of the pictures shown, where the women are wearing freaking corsets. Duh, of course they'll look curvy there! That's the point of wearing one!

Real curvy is not based on weight but on proportion. Larger bust, smaller waist, larger hips. You can be bottom-heavy curvy or top-heavy curvy (or equal top and bottom).

As someone who has pants that fit her hips but are literally 3 sizes too big at the waist, I think that'd be an example of curvyness.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 12-05-2008, 10:00 PM
ToeJam ToeJam is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by zweisamkeit View Post
As someone who has pants that fit her hips but are literally 3 sizes too big at the waist, I think that'd be an example of curvyness.

I'm sorry, but SOMEone has to say it.

Cite, Please?
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 12-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Sunspace Sunspace is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Back in the GT eeehhhh...
Posts: 24,945
Quote:
Originally Posted by olivesmarch4th View Post
You have just described me.
:: hopeless Doper crush ::

Ah, if you weren't married and I were twenty years younger...
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 12-05-2008, 10:46 PM
buttonjockey308 buttonjockey308 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeps With Butterflies View Post
Most of those can't be viewed

Well dammit. They worked when I tried em.

It's Beyonce

Dita Von Teese

Kim Kardashian

Crystal Renn

Toccara Jones

and

Melyssa Ford

In that order.

Plus a random stock photo from ok cupid that came up on google.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@chicagoreader.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Publishers - interested in subscribing to the Straight Dope?
Write to: sdsubscriptions@chicagoreader.com.

Copyright © 2013 Sun-Times Media, LLC.