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Old 10-05-2009, 01:05 PM
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How Did This Guy Not Get Scurvy (Eskimo Diet Q.)?

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Old 10-05-2009, 01:07 PM
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I've read somewhere that you can get enough vitamin D from gnawing on sea mammal bones or something.

If there weren't such a source, the Eskimo would have succumbed to scurvy long ago.

In fact, here's The Master's Take on it, referencing the same author you do:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...hey-get-scurvy

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Old 10-05-2009, 01:14 PM
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Whale blubber, also known as Muktuk on wiki, has a good amount of vitamin C.

I was watching Man vs. Wild or one of them, and when they were dropped into a frozen tundra, he demonstrated making a tea w/ pine needles. He went on to explain that this is apparently a great way to get vitamin C in artic areas.

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Old 10-05-2009, 01:42 PM
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I've read somewhere that you can get enough vitamin D from gnawing on sea mammal bones or something.
You need vitamin C to not get scurvy, not D.

Whale blubber is a surprisingly good source of vitamin C, apparently.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:49 PM
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You need vitamin C to not get scurvy, not D.
Sorry -- memory slip. I knew that.

The conclusions stand.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:52 PM
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Raw meat in general has small amounts of vitamin C, and Eskimo diet included lots of raw, frozen, dried, or fermented animal products. Also, the amount of vitamin C needed to prevent scurvy is pretty small. People tend to have the idea that vitamin C comes only from citrus fruits. But just about every fruit or berry has lots of vitamin C, and most plant parts have some. The German navy used to prevent scurvy by serving sailors sauerkraut, which isn't something most people think would have vitamin C. And it's true that it doesn't have much vitamin C compared to oranges or strawberries, but it has enough to prevent scurvy.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:59 PM
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According to Gary Taubes' book Good Calories, Bad Calories, cultures that eat meat-only diets suffer from no nutritional deficiencies that we would expect, and have low-to-no incidences of heart disease, high blood pressure, breast cancer, colon cancer, or acne (or other hormonally-dependent diseases). Many of them eat literally no vegetables or fruits for most, if not all, of the year.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:01 AM
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People tend to have the idea that vitamin C comes only from citrus fruits.
I've met people who think it only comes from oranges - ran into one who kept trying to force or even trick me into drinking orange juice, convinced she was saving my life. As orange juice gives me hives, I really shouldn't be drinking it. (Obviously, I get my vitamin C elsewhere)
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Old 10-15-2009, 12:28 PM
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I heard that they get vitamin C from the stomach contents of caribou. (sorry no time for cite)
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:06 PM
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(Obviously, I get my vitamin C elsewhere)
Not from the stomach contents of caribou, I hope.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:10 PM
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Given the lack of caribou in my vicinty, alas, no...

...however, I did recently see a job opening in Barrow, Alaska for which I am qualified, at which location I presume caribou to be more likely than in Chicago.
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Old 10-15-2009, 02:01 PM
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Given the lack of caribou in my vicinty, alas, no...

...however, I did recently see a job opening in Barrow, Alaska for which I am qualified, at which location I presume caribou to be more likely than in Chicago.
Wasn't Barrow overrun by vampires? Thought I heard it on the news.
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Old 10-15-2009, 02:49 PM
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Wasn't Barrow overrun by vampires? Thought I heard it on the news.
Yeah, but it's supposed to be fairly nice the rest of the year.
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Old 10-15-2009, 03:05 PM
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Meat is a complete diet with all the vitamins and nutrients necessary for survival.

I live mostly on animal products, myself. Perfect health and optimal levels of vitamins at last check.

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Old 10-15-2009, 03:43 PM
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Wasn't Barrow overrun by vampires? Thought I heard it on the news.
I have mentioned before that I have very, very pale skin and don't care for direct sunlight....
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Old 10-16-2009, 04:19 PM
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Meat is a complete diet with all the vitamins and nutrients necessary for survival.

I live mostly on animal products, myself. Perfect health and optimal levels of vitamins at last check.
So do cats, which are exclusively carnivorous in the wild. Yet most cat foods contains various grains, vegetables, etc. Cats need mostly the same nutrition we need, but they can get all their nutrition from animals because they waste not. They eat the liver, heart, stomach, and other organs. (Cats don't need vitamin C because they are able to synthesize it.)
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:07 PM
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People can eat organ meats too. Try them, they're good!

Pet food only contains grains because they are cheap and don't spoil. Having your pet live on commercial pet food is like you trying to live solely on Nutragrain bars. No wonder most dogs and cats I know have such miserable health.

FWIW my cats and dogs eat only raw animal parts.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:50 PM
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Raw meat in general has small amounts of vitamin C, and Eskimo diet included lots of raw, frozen, dried, or fermented animal products. Also, the amount of vitamin C needed to prevent scurvy is pretty small. People tend to have the idea that vitamin C comes only from citrus fruits. But just about every fruit or berry has lots of vitamin C, and most plant parts have some. The German navy used to prevent scurvy by serving sailors sauerkraut, which isn't something most people think would have vitamin C. And it's true that it doesn't have much vitamin C compared to oranges or strawberries, but it has enough to prevent scurvy.
I almost got it one time. I hate most fruits and veggies and my gums started getting really sore until I started getting more Vit C (orange juice, fruit, etc.). It was weird.
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Old 10-17-2009, 03:18 PM
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People can eat organ meats too. Try them, they're good!

Pet food only contains grains because they are cheap and don't spoil. Having your pet live on commercial pet food is like you trying to live solely on Nutragrain bars. No wonder most dogs and cats I know have such miserable health.

FWIW my cats and dogs eat only raw animal parts.
Good wet cat food actually do not contain grains. I feed the neighborhood cat ("Harry") Fancy Feast's Medley. It's not cheap (74 cents a can); there are mor expensive brands more scientifically made (so they say), but Harry won't eat them. Medley (turkey Florentine with garden greens) contains in descending order: poultry broth, turkey, wheat gluten, liver, meat by-products, spinach, corn starch-modified, artificial and natural flavors, salt, calcium phosphate, soy protein concentrate, added color, potassium chloride, taurine, choline fluoride, vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin A supplement, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, pyrodoxine hydrochloride, niacin, vitamin B-12 supplement, riboflavin supplement, calcium pantothenate, copper sulfate, menadione sodium sulfite complex, vitamin D-3 supplement, folic acid, potassium iodide, and biotin.
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:42 PM
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Yeah, we humans are just lousy at making our own Vitamin C. Most other creatures are pretty good at it.
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Old 10-17-2009, 11:18 PM
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Good wet cat food actually do not contain grains. I feed the neighborhood cat ("Harry") Fancy Feast's Medley. It's not cheap (74 cents a can); there are mor expensive brands more scientifically made (so they say), but Harry won't eat them. Medley (turkey Florentine with garden greens) contains in descending order: poultry broth, turkey, wheat gluten, liver, meat by-products, spinach, corn starch-modified, artificial and natural flavors, salt, calcium phosphate, soy protein concentrate, added color, potassium chloride, taurine, choline fluoride, vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin A supplement, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, pyrodoxine hydrochloride, niacin, vitamin B-12 supplement, riboflavin supplement, calcium pantothenate, copper sulfate, menadione sodium sulfite complex, vitamin D-3 supplement, folic acid, potassium iodide, and biotin.
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