The Bar b que thread “If you are a male…” (Sorry I’m not any good whatsoever at the easy niceties of reference back to a starting point…)
Anyway…
I am over sixty. A female and absolutely fascinated by the male poster who posit such an overwhelming male desire for sex that their behavior toward women must be mitigated by this.
Is the male sex drive so strong that each forgives the other for lies, for posing, for “sweet talk” for talk of “forever love” and “soul-matish” stuff and white picket fences and children…in order to have a women take off their clothes and agree to sex?
Is this true?
Is this why fathers are so very protective of their dauthers? Knowing that females believe “tales” of love ?
“Tales of love” when Fathers - former teenage boys - KNOW that males just want sex?
Is this really the paradigm?
If so, why can’t we all be honest.
ESPECIALLY when men speak with their daughters?
Words. They mean a lot to females. Females believe words spoken.
Men want action.
In order to get “action” they KNOW what ‘words’ to speak.
Is sex really such a powerful drive in males that deceit is both acknowledged and forgiven by other males …and HATED by fathers?
Well yeah, the paradigm is mostly true with 20somethings or younger tho’. At least that’s what the optimist in me wants to believe.
At the risk of sounding like a mysogynist, I will say women can be incredibly guilable when it comes to the BS we men spew out of our mouths.
For instance, I know of a girl right now that is involved with a married man. She once stated to me that this guy is the nicest guy she knows. I said: “Really, a guy who cheats on his wife and children?” :dubious:
She is absolutely convinced that he really loves her; he just can’t divorce the wife because his mexican upbringing wont allow that. (But it does allow cheating?)
I’ll probably get flamed for this but; women are SO easy to bull shit. This is probably why it happens so often.
omgzebras…you have a daughter…you love her…from the time she was born…you watch her grow up…you watch her come into her teens… you watch her love the teenager who says he will love her for a lifetime…she comes home and tells you that having sex with him was only because he will love her for a lifetime and want to have babies with her and a house and professional goals…etc., etc…
I’ve encountered young women who won’t believe any warning you give them. Not only about all guys wanting sex but also control, dominance and potential abuse. (And to hear some tell it, actual abuse as well.) Every warning given by girl and guy friends about a potentially abusive boyfriend just meets with a giggling "tee hee! But he loooves me and he’s so sweet if you really knew him . . . "
I would have told my daughter from the start that some guys will say absolutely anything to get laid. I would have told her that it’s difficult to tell which guys are sincere and which are just players and that the best method to separate the two is to make them wait. A guy that’s just after one thing and one thing only isn’t going to pretend interest for 2-3 months (I’m assuming they’re young, if older, assume numer of dates instead of months). A guy that really likes a girl will be wrapped around her finger for that amount of time and then some. Sure he might be eager to ‘take it to the next level,’ but he will wait nonetheless.
If even after my telling her this (and while I don’t have kids of my own, I’ve heard rumors that, from time to time, they may not listen to everything you say) she still fell into some young Romeo’s trap, I would try to let her know that she is young and that young romance doesn’t always last as long as the participants might expect. She should take reasonable precautions to ensure that her young romance doesn’t turn into a lifelong obligation, and if things don’t work out she should know that the guy was just a stupid asshole anyway and that she could and certainly will do so much better in the future.
So basically, if I don’t put three periods and a hard return in a sentence, you can’t even see it? Because I wrote like two paragraphs that I hoped would answer your question and yet you seem to have not noticed them.
Maybe YOU would have told your daughter that males will say anything in order to get laid…(which I seriously doubt) but most fathers won’t.
Really, seriously… have you males with daughters from maybe twelve to fifteen years of age been 100% honest about what young males want from them?
Have you honestly told them that males want sex. Sexual intercourse. And that they will say, do, promise, agree with you, pretend to listen or any other course of action that must be taken WILL BE in order to get an OK for sex?
Come on Fathers.
Disagree with me if you will.
But I will never believe you.
(Unless you can provide some proof of the differences in the way you snagged their mothers.)
lurking guest, show me one single example of anything I have ever said that is anything less than 100% respectful towards women. I would be amazed. I would be astonished. I would literally reevaluate my entire life because I would realize that I am not the person that I think I am.
I don’t think you can do it.
No, that’s wrong. I know you can’t do it. Because you are, and please forgive my colloquialism, fucking making shit up.
You loathsome person. You come on here and you accuse me of lying. You accuse me of misogyny. I ask you for one single instance, one small piece of evidence to back up your claims, and instead of admitting you have nothing you toss out some childish insult and a bit a snotty attitude. Aren’t you just a peach.