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Old 10-10-2009, 09:54 PM
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The thing that fascinates me...


The Bar b que thread "If you are a male...." (Sorry I'm not any good whatsoever at the easy niceties of reference back to a starting point....)

Anyway...

I am over sixty. A female and absolutely fascinated by the male poster who posit such an overwhelming male desire for sex that their behavior toward women must be mitigated by this.

Is the male sex drive so strong that each forgives the other for lies, for posing, for "sweet talk" for talk of "forever love" and "soul-matish" stuff and white picket fences and children...in order to have a women take off their clothes and agree to sex?

Is this true?

Is this why fathers are so very protective of their dauthers? Knowing that females believe "tales" of love ?

"Tales of love" when Fathers - former teenage boys - KNOW that males just want sex?

Is this really the paradigm?

If so, why can't we all be honest.

ESPECIALLY when men speak with their daughters?

Words. They mean a lot to females. Females believe words spoken.

Men want action.

In order to get "action" they KNOW what 'words' to speak.

Is sex really such a powerful drive in males that deceit is both acknowledged and forgiven by other males ....and HATED by fathers?
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:18 PM
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Well yeah, the paradigm is mostly true with 20somethings or younger tho'. At least that's what the optimist in me wants to believe.

At the risk of sounding like a mysogynist, I will say women can be incredibly guilable when it comes to the BS we men spew out of our mouths.

For instance, I know of a girl right now that is involved with a married man. She once stated to me that this guy is the nicest guy she knows. I said: "Really, a guy who cheats on his wife and children?"

She is absolutely convinced that he really loves her; he just can't divorce the wife because his mexican upbringing wont allow that. (But it does allow cheating?)

I'll probably get flamed for this but; women are SO easy to bull shit. This is probably why it happens so often.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:58 PM
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Thanks SHAKESfor telling me what you believe.
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:00 PM
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The point is...some time..at some point...females must be given the TRUTH about males.

If Fathers won't pass along the secrets of males attempts to get sex, who will?

And...why won't they??

Why do men worry so much about their daughters being decieved, and yet won't share their knowledge?

Crazy.
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:15 PM
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Sometimes when I type, the enter key, it calls to me...

I look at it...

I can't help myself, I must hit that key...

Again...

And again...

I don't always want to...

sometime I like to hit the period key also...

Often in multiples...

Three times, if I do it once...

But even when that happens I still hit the enter key when I am done...

I love it...

The enter key...

It is the romance...

Of my life...

A beautiful dance...

My fingers...

The enter key...

The period key...

Ebbing...

Flowing...

The dance of life...
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:19 PM
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Sheesh... OMGZEBRAS

You are, indeed, everyone's poetic hero.
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:22 PM
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Sheesh... OMGZEBRAS

You are, indeed, everyone's poetic hero.
No, lurking guest...

It isn't me...

It is the keys...

Their beauty...

Too great for any man...

Far, far to great...

How could I resist?...
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:40 PM
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How could you resist?

(What a clueless, well, asshole...)

Let's walk through this....

Ok...

omgzebras...you have a daughter...you love her...from the time she was born..you watch her grow up...you watch her come into her teens... you watch her love the teenager who says he will love her for a lifetime...she comes home and tells you that having sex with him was only because he will love her for a lifetime and want to have babies with her and a house and professional goals..etc., etc...

expain again....
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I've encountered young women who won't believe any warning you give them. Not only about all guys wanting sex but also control, dominance and potential abuse. (And to hear some tell it, actual abuse as well.) Every warning given by girl and guy friends about a potentially abusive boyfriend just meets with a giggling "tee hee! But he loooves me and he's so sweet if you really knew him . . . "
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How could you resist?

(What a clueless, well, asshole...)

Let's walk through this....

Ok...

omgzebras...you have a daughter...you love her...from the time she was born..you watch her grow up...you watch her come into her teens... you watch her love the teenager who says he will love her for a lifetime...she comes home and tells you that having sex with him was only because he will love her for a lifetime and want to have babies with her and a house and professional goals..etc., etc...

expain again....
So close to a real paragraph, and yet so far...

I would have told my daughter from the start that some guys will say absolutely anything to get laid. I would have told her that it's difficult to tell which guys are sincere and which are just players and that the best method to separate the two is to make them wait. A guy that's just after one thing and one thing only isn't going to pretend interest for 2-3 months (I'm assuming they're young, if older, assume numer of dates instead of months). A guy that really likes a girl will be wrapped around her finger for that amount of time and then some. Sure he might be eager to 'take it to the next level,' but he will wait nonetheless.

If even after my telling her this (and while I don't have kids of my own, I've heard rumors that, from time to time, they may not listen to everything you say) she still fell into some young Romeo's trap, I would try to let her know that she is young and that young romance doesn't always last as long as the participants might expect. She should take reasonable precautions to ensure that her young romance doesn't turn into a lifelong obligation, and if things don't work out she should know that the guy was just a stupid asshole anyway and that she could and certainly will do so much better in the future.

Then I would hit the period key three times...

And the enter key once...
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:18 AM
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"Then I would hit the period key three times.. And the enter key once..."

And what a privileged Daughter she would be.

Through young love, and courtship and EVEN marriage...what a PRIVILEGED DAUGHTER she would be.

That she would never, EVER, know these things.

Because her Father spouts ...what...rhyme?

But... ah..well..it's only daughters.
It's only females schtupping on message boards.

Delete. Delete.

Come back.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:29 AM
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So basically, if I don't put three periods and a hard return in a sentence, you can't even see it? Because I wrote like two paragraphs that I hoped would answer your question and yet you seem to have not noticed them.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:33 AM
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Maybe YOU would have told your daughter that males will say anything in order to get laid...(which I seriously doubt) but most fathers won't.

Really, seriously... have you males with daughters from maybe twelve to fifteen years of age been 100% honest about what young males want from them?

Have you honestly told them that males want sex. Sexual intercourse. And that they will say, do, promise, agree with you, pretend to listen or any other course of action that must be taken WILL BE in order to get an OK for sex?

Come on Fathers.

Disagree with me if you will.

But I will never believe you.

(Unless you can provide some proof of the differences in the way you snagged their mothers.)
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:36 AM
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Oh my God! Zebras.

Or...

It just might be horses...?

Yep.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:37 AM
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Come on Fathers.

Disagree with me if you will.

But I will never believe you.

(Unless you can provide some proof of the differences in the way you snagged their mothers.)
You aren't exactly fostering a healthy environment for debate here.

"Hey guys, answer my question! I won't believe your answers!"

Nice, good luck with that.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:54 AM
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Hmmm..

Back at cha.

(..dip shit..)

And let us not forget that your posts have shown your love of women.

Your lucky mother and sisters or sisters-in-law.

Hang on to your excellent arguments.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:06 AM
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Hmmm..

Back at cha.

(..dip shit..)

And let us not forget that your posts have shown your love of women.

Your lucky mother and sisters or sisters-in-law.

Hang on to your excellent arguments.
lurking guest, show me one single example of anything I have ever said that is anything less than 100% respectful towards women. I would be amazed. I would be astonished. I would literally reevaluate my entire life because I would realize that I am not the person that I think I am.

I don't think you can do it.

No, that's wrong. I know you can't do it. Because you are, and please forgive my colloquialism, fucking making shit up.

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Old 10-11-2009, 01:20 AM
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lurking guest, does the mothership know you're missing?

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Is a "Colloquiliam" "making shit up?
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A tool.

Glad I'm not your daughter.

You're a good guy. I'm sure.
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Is a "Colloquiliam" "making shit up?
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A tool.

Glad I'm not your daughter.

You're a good guy. I'm sure.
You loathsome person. You come on here and you accuse me of lying. You accuse me of misogyny. I ask you for one single instance, one small piece of evidence to back up your claims, and instead of admitting you have nothing you toss out some childish insult and a bit a snotty attitude. Aren't you just a peach.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:33 AM
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I've encountered young women who won't believe any warning you give them. Not only about all guys wanting sex but also control, dominance and potential abuse. (And to hear some tell it, actual abuse as well.) Every warning given by girl and guy friends about a potentially abusive boyfriend just meets with a giggling "tee hee! But he loooves me and he's so sweet if you really knew him . . . "
Of course, I've met girls who have dozens of male friends (and "friends") hovering around them at all times, but are too worried about dating them because they've become paranoid they'll just leave and not even be friends after they fuck (my response: "do you really want to stay friends then?"). It works both ways, but I don't think most girls are on the extreme of either scale. A good number may start out on the too trusting side, I'm sure, but when they do they (sadly) tend to get disabused of that notion quickly.

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Aren't you just a peach.
OMG! You used the name of a princess as an insult. Misogynist! (Just to make it clear: )

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Old 10-11-2009, 01:52 AM
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Oh for Pete's sake...

just waiting for the fathers on this board to agree that they wouldn't want teenage males to promise blue skies and forever to their daughters ( as, of course, they will...)

and then, to make judgments about whether or not these young males MEAN it....

and just what it MAY mean to their daughters....

C'mon you guys...are you willing to STAND UP for those boys whirling around your daughters?

Their innocence?

Their good intentions?
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:53 AM
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I'm a father of an 11 year old girl. And when the time comes in a couple (few?) years, I plan on going saying almost everything omgzebras just laid out here:

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I would have told my daughter from the start that some guys will say absolutely anything to get laid. I would have told her that it's difficult to tell which guys are sincere and which are just players and that the best method to separate the two is to make them wait. A guy that's just after one thing and one thing only isn't going to pretend interest for 2-3 months (I'm assuming they're young, if older, assume numer of dates instead of months). A guy that really likes a girl will be wrapped around her finger for that amount of time and then some. Sure he might be eager to 'take it to the next level,' but he will wait nonetheless.

If even after my telling her this (and while I don't have kids of my own, I've heard rumors that, from time to time, they may not listen to everything you say) she still fell into some young Romeo's trap, I would try to let her know that she is young and that young romance doesn't always last as long as the participants might expect. She should take reasonable precautions to ensure that her young romance doesn't turn into a lifelong obligation, and if things don't work out she should know that the guy was just a stupid asshole anyway and that she could and certainly will do so much better in the future.
It's great advice. Younger guys usually have a powerful libido, and an underdeveloped sense of empathy. Most grow out of this, but the teens and twenties can be the most difficult to navigate between some girls naiveté and most guys "one thing on their minds".

What makes you think I wouldn't be honest about my daughter when the time comes?

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Oh for Pete's sake...

just waiting for the fathers on this board to agree that they wouldn't want teenage males to promise blue skies and forever to their daughters ( as, of course, they will...)

and then, to make judgments about whether or not these young males MEAN it....

and just what it MAY mean to their daughters....

C'mon you guys...are you willing to STAND UP for those boys whirling around your daughters?

Their innocence?

Their good intentions?
Why the fuck should they tell you anything when you'll just tell them that they're lying?
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Oh for Pete's sake...

just waiting for the fathers on this board to agree that they wouldn't want teenage males to promise blue skies and forever to their daughters ( as, of course, they will...)

and then, to make judgments about whether or not these young males MEAN it....

and just what it MAY mean to their daughters....

C'mon you guys...are you willing to STAND UP for those boys whirling around your daughters?

Their innocence?

Their good intentions?
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Why the fuck should they tell you anything when you'll just tell them that they're lying?
I'm actually having trouble parsing this last one of lurking guest's post.

Maybe it's all the abundant paragraph spaces, the wrong and prolific use of ellipses, or the random caps, but I really can't tell what she wants fathers to admit to. Whose innocence and good intentions? Standing up for what sort of guys? You're lumping an awful lot of presumptions and generalizations in here.

What's your angle here lurking guest? You seem incendiary and coy. Not a very good combo for an OP, IMHO.

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Maybe all dads are secret paedos?
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:36 AM
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I've encountered young women who won't believe any warning you give them. Not only about all guys wanting sex but also control, dominance and potential abuse. (And to hear some tell it, actual abuse as well.) Every warning given by girl and guy friends about a potentially abusive boyfriend just meets with a giggling "tee hee! But he loooves me and he's so sweet if you really knew him . . . "
Ah yes..........they are either Pink Red Sox Hat Girls (the type who regularly date douchebags/Yah Dudes/ DumbAss Fratboy types) or really naive/emotionaly delayed/dysfunctional.
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What's your angle here lurking guest? You seem incendiary and coy. Not a very good combo for an OP, IMHO.

Sorry.

I've forgotten in the last sixyt years that ALL fathers have a "sit down" with their daughters and tell them what their teenage boyfriends want..

Have a good 'heart-to-heart' and let their daughters know that young males will do/say almost anything to get into [I]someones[I]pants.

And yes,
I know that NONE of you know what I'm talking about.

Men don't, of course, think of females as sex objects.

Boys in

the ages of 13-16 - older boys of 17-21, don't think of females as sex objects.

Men older than 21 through the ages of 60-something to death, DO NOT think of females as sex objects.

Nope.

They don't.

Not ever.

Lucky wives.
Lucky females who believe their SIGNIFICANT OTHERS think they have the only 'body' 'minds' or 'souls' that could ever engage the males in their lives...
when the males....

know different...

BUT claim to love someone "Forever."

Can you imagine? !!

"Love" someone commited to their hopes, dreams, work situation...

...unless...something better comes along.

But wait...

Better to stay with what one has. (And keep on just "peeping" at the porno}

Better this than sharing half of the material gains of one's life with a female one has tied himself to...

And the children....

Tough darts what you think, CMYK

Men like Shodan who have forever given themselves to their wives and families ...they hang on..

But still, I wonder what they will tell their daughters...
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I've forgotten in the last sixyt years that ALL fathers have a "sit down" with their daughters and tell them what their teenage boyfriends want..
No, not all fathers do. You know this. We know this. Good fathers do though. There is such a thing.

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I know that NONE of you know what I'm talking about.
Yes we do. We are trying to communicate with you on this subject but you are making it as hard as possible to do so.

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Men don't, of course, think of females as sex objects.
Yes we do, sometimes. Not always though, which I know is just gonna shock the fuck out of you.

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Boys in the ages of 13-16 - older boys of 17-21, don't think of females as sex objects.
Yes they do, sometimes. Not always though, which I know is just gonna shock the fuck out of you.

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Men older than 21 through the ages of 60-something to death, DO NOT think of females as sex objects.
Yes they do, sometimes. Not always though, which I know is just gonna shock the fuck out of you.

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Nope.
Yes! Sometimes.

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They don't.
They do! Sometimes.

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Not ever.
No! Sometimes!

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Lucky wives.
Lucky females who believe their SIGNIFICANT OTHERS think they have the only 'body' 'minds' or 'souls' that could ever engage the males in their lives...
when the males....

know different...

BUT claim to love someone "Forever."

Can you imagine? !!
You got your ass dumped, didn't you? That's what this mostly incoherent tirade is all about. Some guy dumped you like a load of caliche at a construction site and now you're all bitter and crazy, is that it?

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"Love" someone commited to their hopes, dreams, work situation...

...unless...something better comes along.
Hint, guys get dumped too. It's true!

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Oh my sweet merciful heaven a Shodan groupie. Holy shit.
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What's your angle here lurking guest? You seem incendiary and coy. Not a very good combo for an OP, IMHO.

Sorry.

I've forgotten in the last sixyt years that ALL fathers have a "sit down" with their daughters and tell them what their teenage boyfriends want..

Have a good 'heart-to-heart' and let their daughters know that young males will do/say almost anything to get into [I]someones[I]pants.

And yes,
I know that NONE of you know what I'm talking about.

Men don't, of course, think of females as sex objects.

Boys in

the ages of 13-16 - older boys of 17-21, don't think of females as sex objects.

Men older than 21 through the ages of 60-something to death, DO NOT think of females as sex objects.

Nope.

They don't.

Not ever.

Lucky wives.
Lucky females who believe their SIGNIFICANT OTHERS think they have the only 'body' 'minds' or 'souls' that could ever engage the males in their lives...
when the males....

know different...

BUT claim to love someone "Forever."

Can you imagine? !!

"Love" someone commited to their hopes, dreams, work situation...

...unless...something better comes along.

But wait...

Better to stay with what one has. (And keep on just "peeping" at the porno}

Better this than sharing half of the material gains of one's life with a female one has tied himself to...

And the children....

Tough darts what you think, CMYK

Men like Shodan who have forever given themselves to their wives and families ...they hang on..

But still, I wonder what they will tell their daughters...
Bwa-ha-ha!!

This thread should be made a sticky so we can always remember why it's not a good idea to post while intoxicated. (And obviously bitter about something.)

Seriously LG, I hope you feel better when you sleep it off.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:14 AM
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Bwa-ha-ha!!

This thread should be made a sticky so we can always remember why it's not a good idea to post while intoxicated. (And obviously bitter about something.)

Seriously LG, I hope you feel better when you sleep it off.
No, LG always reads like this. See the post history.
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I think we're supposed to read between the lines.
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It's making my head hurt.

Look, lurking guest, there are two problems with your thread.

One is that you seem to be suffering from an overdose of ellipses. Your posts are difficult to read because of this. If you want people to read your posts and consider your thoughts, you are going about it the wrong way.

Second is that you have already made up your mind about your OP. From one old bat to another, I find this offensive:

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Come on Fathers.

Disagree with me if you will.

But I will never believe you.
You're trying to say that all the fathers I know and love (husband, brother, dad, son) are guilty of the things you outline in your OP. I call bullshit. Can you not come up with a more coherent discussion??

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You loathsome person. You come on here and you accuse me of lying. You accuse me of misogyny. I ask you for one single instance, one small piece of evidence to back up your claims, and instead of admitting you have nothing you toss out some childish insult and a bit a snotty attitude. Aren't you just a peach.
Insults are not allowed in this forum, so this is a warning to both lurking guest and omgzebras to stop the bickering immediately. Everyone else is also advised to avoid direct insults.

lurking guest, you're not making yourself clear. Please explain your thoughts a little more fully and use full paragraphs. It might help.
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Okey doke.

All I ever asked is why fathers don't tell their female children about males true intentions while in their teenage, formative years.

They "worry" about their daughters. Long screeds and serious papers, stand-up comedies and countless jokes are offered in the public domain about how fathers concern themselves with the young swains "courting" their daughters.

My only question has been...why, if fathers are so concerned, do they NOT sit down with their daughters and "spill the beans" about male intention? How simple is that?

Cripes.
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Maybe YOU would have told your daughter that males will say anything in order to get laid...(which I seriously doubt) but most fathers won't.
<chopped in between>
(Unless you can provide some proof of the differences in the way you snagged their mothers.)
Neither my father nor my married brother "snagged" their women like that. My parents mentioned that some guys would (not that I needed them to, by that time), but there was no reason to say that "all" men will, since not all men will.

The guys I dated who said what they thought I wanted to hear and not what they really believed were so transparent you could have used them for window panes.

Your mileage, like your notions of proper punctuation, may vary.

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Okey doke.

All I ever asked is why fathers don't tell their female children about males true intentions while in their teenage, formative years.

They "worry" about their daughters. Long screeds and serious papers, stand-up comedies and countless jokes are offered in the public domain about how fathers concern themselves with the young swains "courting" their daughters.

My only question has been...why, if fathers are so concerned, do they NOT sit down with their daughters and "spill the beans" about male intention? How simple is that?

Cripes.
Let me explain something to you. You better sit down.

Fathers do do this. The more proactive ones anyway. Also, women can objectify men too. Also, guys can be just as empathetic, caring and vulnerable as women.

And, of course, there are guys and girls out there who are abusive and selfish and who will never grow up or keep their word. It's part of human nature, but by no means only something men do. Women use men all the time. Just because bad shit has happened to you, doesn't mean this is how everyone behaves. You've been burned. Take a deep breath, deal with it, and try and surround yourself with better people. I have. They're out there, use some common sense.
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And not ALL young teen males are after only ONE thing. There is no one more romantic and idealistic than a boy in the throes of his first crush.

Are the vast majority of teen males randy bastards? Randy, yes, bastards--not so much. It is possible to raise decent, empathetic males. Then again, hormones are powerful things, but for most males (IMO) it is a phase (one devoutly hopes).

What is with the sexism in the OP? Teen females are likely to be just as randy as the males. Being pressured for sex is not a one way male--> female street, no matter the age of the individuals.

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Why should fathers have to explain anything?

My only rules are:

1) Don't get pregnant
2) Don't get a disease

Beyond that, girls are free to get as much sex as guys. Its fun, so go for it. I think there is something psychologically wrong with men who are overprotective about their daughters. Let them fuck, its fun, you do it to their mothers all the time right?
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I hear what you're saying YogSosoth, and sure, some fathers are way overprotective. In the case of teenagers, it's all to obvious how willy nilly teens can be. Teen pregnancy is a huge issue (especially if they're a minor... in which case the idea of your daughter having sex is horrifying).

Like other teen "fun" they might experiment with (e.g. pot, drinking, etc.), the consequences can be hugely life-altering, especially if your daughter gets pregnant, cuz y'know, sex is fun! *pops bubble gum bubble* Things have consequences, and it's not unreasonable to try and educate your child of these things, as well as even actively protect them and keep an eye on them if they're still under your supervision. Boys too.

When they're in their 20s, then yes, you have to back way off as a parent, but by then, if you haven't gotten through to them, you never will. Some teens are way more mature than others, but the vast majority just don't have the life experience needed to make smart decisions in that regard.
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Speaking as an adult female...(and a BLONDE female, at that!)
Yep, it's quite fair to say, in general, the male of the species has a special fascination with sex, and very likely at some point in their lives have prevaricated, bargained, paid or pled for said sex....AND I LOVE THEM FOR IT!
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So babe, was it good for you too?
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Speaking as an adult female...(and a BLONDE female, at that!)
Yep, it's quite fair to say, in general, the male of the species has a special fascination with sex, and very likely at some point in their lives have prevaricated, bargained, paid or pled for said sex....AND I LOVE THEM FOR IT!
I've yadda-yadda'd sex.
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Speaking as an adult female...(and a BLONDE female, at that!)
Yep, it's quite fair to say, in general, the male of the species has a special fascination with sex, and very likely at some point in their lives have prevaricated, bargained, paid or pled for said sex....AND I LOVE THEM FOR IT!
Haha!
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My only question has been...why, if fathers are so concerned, do they NOT sit down with their daughters and "spill the beans" about male intention? How simple is that?
Um, they do? Mine did. Except you don't believe that happens. So.. okay.
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I have daughters, but they are too young to have the talk with. I do plan on sitting down with them and talking about sex. This talk will include my opinion that teenage boys will say and do anything to get in their pants and they should take everything said with a big huge grain of salt. I will also talk to them (a lot, all the time, and in fact, I already have) about the ebb and flow of life. By this I mean that there will be crushes and loves in high school, a first lover, live-in partners, and maybe even a lifetime mate. All of these things will come and it important to let them flow though their lives without impeding it. There is also high school, proms, travel with friends and family, summer camps, living abroad, college, grad school, careers, etc... I will communicate to my girls (at least I hope) that love and lust are a normal and fun part of life that needs to be dealt with responsibly. Hopefully my communication will prepare them for their lives and they will be safe, have fun, and be loved. I would rather have my daughters date as teenagers than not, so I will not be overprotective. This is my plan at least.

Of course, lurking guest probably thinks I am full of shit and I am going to lock my daughters up with lots of books on ponies for company only to have them sneak out and be raped by the first boy with honey on his tongue. Is this about right?

On another note, did you ever see the movie The Virgin Suicides guest?
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Of course, lurking guest probably thinks I am full of shit and I am going to lock my daughters up with lots of books on ponies for company only to have them sneak out and be raped by the first boy with honey on his tongue. Is this about right?
Don't knock a guy with honey on his tongue.

Just sayin'.
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All I ever asked is why fathers don't tell their female children about males true intentions while in their teenage, formative years.
I don't know where you're getting your information from but what makes you think that they don't?
You seem to be so certain that fathers everywhere never inform their daughters about this. What makes you think this way?

Have you ever thought that maybe many fathers DO have this talk and warn their daughters but that daughters refuse to listen or believe it?

Again, what makes you believe that fathers don't warn their daughters about this?
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Speaking as an adult female...(and a BLONDE female, at that!)
Yep, it's quite fair to say, in general, the male of the species has a special fascination with sex, and very likely at some point in their lives have prevaricated, bargained, paid or pled for said sex....AND I LOVE THEM FOR IT!
You're welcome. *sniff*
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