SC Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer compares poor children to stray animals

[BrainGlutton]

Because, they, you know, breed if you feed them. (Which is undeniably true, I guess . . .)

(AP)South Carolina Lt. Governor Andre Bauer, who hopes to succeed fellow Republican Mark Sanford as his state's governor, drew a comparison between government help for poor people and "feeding stray animals" – who, he noted, "breed."

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals," Bauer said during a town hall meeting, as the Greenville News reported over the weekend. "You know why? Because they breed. You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better."

As the Greenville News notes, more than half of the students in South Carolina participate in a program that allows them to get their lunch for free, or at a reduced cost.

(Surprised this Pitting hasn't been done yet -- The Daily Show covered it just two nights ago.)

[Kolga]

Here ya go:

Another Stupid Idea

[Oakminster]

Originally Posted by BrainGlutton

Because, they, you know, breed if you feed them. (Which is undeniably true, I guess . . .)



(Surprised this Pitting hasn't been done yet -- The Daily Show covered it just two nights ago.)

It still hasn't. You dumped a link, and pasted some text, but otherwise apparently have nothing to say on the subject. That's weaksauce. If you want something pitted, then fucking pit it.

[coffeecat]

Some other good ideas are reintroducing timber wolves and having a hunting season.

In fairness, even his fellow Republicans think he went off the deep end.

[Euphonious Polemic]

Well, at least he puts his cards right there on the table.

If you cut programs for poor people, they will stop breeding. Perhaps they will move away to somewhere else, or perhaps they will simply starve to death. Whatever.

He may also be thinking that they will magically rise up and get productive jobs selling sneakers at the local Walmart or something. You know, get one of those many, many jobs that are flooding South Carolina at the moment. (Hmmm.wait... it seems that the unemployment rate there is 12.6% at the moment. Probably not that then.)

[Sampiro]

I actually liked his "save" a couple of days later better than the original comment.

Bauer was back-pedaling Monday — but doing so without offering an apology for his ill-chosen words. He said his point was “you don’t just keep feeding that animal, but you bring it in and love it, and if you can’t take care of it, you take it to a shelter where someone can.”

Exactly. He wasn't saying poor people breeding is a bad thing in and of itself, but that homeless shelters should spay and neuter and kids from impoverished families should be taken to shelters where the cute ones can find homes and the other ones can be put to sleep like Jesus intended.

The irony is that Bauer was from a "free lunch" family. His parents divorced, his dad had unemployment periods and deadbeat dad periods, and his mother sometimes had to turn to public assistance. Nothing wrong with that at all, but you'd think it would instill a bit of compassion, especially in a 'Christian'.

[ivn1188]

Originally Posted by Oakminster

It still hasn't. You dumped a link, and pasted some text, but otherwise apparently have nothing to say on the subject. That's weaksauce. If you want something pitted, then fucking pit it.

Fuck yeah.

[3:20:59 or bust]

Well, he seems like a shitty Lt. Governor, but I thought he did a great job when he was on Homicide: Life on the Street.

What?

[thelurkinghorror]

Originally Posted by 3:20:59 or bust

Well, he seems like a shitty Lt. Governor, but I thought he did a great job when he was on Homicide: Life on the Street.

What?

Yeah, and I thought he wasn't a Lt. Governor of South Carolina, but a Corporal in Massachusetts.

[elucidator]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

.... but you'd think it would instill a bit of compassion, especially in a 'Christian'.

From what I've seen, when pretty decent people experience poverty, they tend to become more compassionate and generous. When not so good people experience poverty, they become bitter and stingy.

Another reason to fight against poverty, it doesn't make good people that much better, and it makes not so good people ten times worse.

[Little Nemo]

I envy whoever's running against this guy. Because politicians dream of having an opponent say something like this.

[BrainGlutton]

Originally Posted by Oakminster

It still hasn't. You dumped a link, and pasted some text, but otherwise apparently have nothing to say on the subject. That's weaksauce. If you want something pitted, then fucking pit it.

I beg your pardon, I should think this is the kind of thing that Pits itself.

[elucidator]

Well, if it don't, sure as hell ought to!

[Diogenes the Cynic]

He's the reason Mark Sanford still has job security.

[Oakminster]

Originally Posted by BrainGlutton

I beg your pardon, I should think this is the kind of thing that Pits itself.

Nah. We want to be entertained. Tell us how your fury burns with the heat of your asshole after a jalapeno and tequila bender. Show us your outrage. Make us feel the injustice. A well crafted rant can be a thing of beauty. Instead, you've demonstrated that you know how to start a thread, cut & paste text, and include a link.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by Oakminster

Nah. We want to be entertained. Tell us how your fury burns with the heat of your asshole after a jalapeno and tequila bender. Show us your outrage. Make us feel the injustice. A well crafted rant can be a thing of beauty. Instead, you've demonstrated that you know how to start a thread, cut & paste text, and include a link.

It sounds like you should be pitting the OP.

Unless you're all talk.

[Slithy Tove]

The population of Europe doubled between 1800 and 1850, due to it's cozy, bouncy social safety net that Charles Dickens took gross artistic license in omitting.

[Little Nemo]

That's because Europe didn't have good leash laws.

[Oakminster]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

It sounds like you should be pitting the OP.

Unless you're all talk.

I'm not mad at the OP. I suppose I could MPSIMS him, but that's not how I roll.

[ivn1188]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

It sounds like you should be pitting the OP.

Unless you're all talk.

Problem is, anytime someone does that, a bunch of loathsome toads come along and cry "OP is a mean asshole" and "what gives the OP the right to tell everyone what to do". This is usually accomplished in the style of this thread's OP, by which I mean uninventive and dull.

Then Guinistatia comes along near the end of the first page to agree with the majority, which generally coincides with the appearance of the pitted poster to either pull a FinnAgain and froth about "You're an idiot! A stupid idiot! You're so idiotic, you're stupid!" for about 14 paragraphs, or a simpering, apologetic post: "I'm sorry, I usually post about puppies and polyamory in MPSIMS, but I was so mad I typed the word f*ck in my post, so there."

Of course, the people with the shitty rants really don't read other threads, so the point of pitting them for being dull is moot. And of course, the pit certainly allows criticism of the OP, so why not do it right here?

ETA: and apologies to Oakminster; I am sure your status as a valued part of this message board will be irreparably tarnished by mere association with yours truly.

[SteveG1]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

The irony is that Bauer was from a "free lunch" family. His parents divorced, his dad had unemployment periods and deadbeat dad periods, and his mother sometimes had to turn to public assistance. Nothing wrong with that at all, but you'd think it would instill a bit of compassion, especially in a 'Christian'.

Holy crap, that's some pretty good irony right there.

[Markxxx]

Hardly a new issue, in her book "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" and again in "Tomorrow Will Be Better," the author Betty Smith talks about the issue of the poor and children.

To quote: "It's like saying only rich people should be allowed to have kids."

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by ivn1188

Problem is, anytime someone does that, a bunch of loathsome toads come along and cry "OP is a mean asshole" and "what gives the OP the right to tell everyone what to do". This is usually accomplished in the style of this thread's OP, by which I mean uninventive and dull.

Then Guinistatia comes along near the end of the first page to agree with the majority, which generally coincides with the appearance of the pitted poster to either pull a FinnAgain and froth about "You're an idiot! A stupid idiot! You're so idiotic, you're stupid!" for about 14 paragraphs, or a simpering, apologetic post: "I'm sorry, I usually post about puppies and polyamory in MPSIMS, but I was so mad I typed the word f*ck in my post, so there."

Of course, the people with the shitty rants really don't read other threads, so the point of pitting them for being dull is moot. And of course, the pit certainly allows criticism of the OP, so why not do it right here?

ETA: and apologies to Oakminster; I am sure your status as a valued part of this message board will be irreparably tarnished by mere association with yours truly.

I just wanted you to know, I was so uninterested in your comments that I actually didn't read them.













Is that snippy enough for the pit?

[SteveG1]

Is it still too soon to make A Modest Proposal?

[Kolga]

Originally Posted by SteveG1

Holy crap, that's some pretty good irony right there.

He was from the "right kind" of people on assistance. You know...the "good" kind. (wink wink).

[Blalron]

Originally Posted by Slithy Tove

The population of Europe doubled between 1800 and 1850, due to it's cozy, bouncy social safety net that Charles Dickens took gross artistic license in omitting.

Strange how there are such low birth rates these days in the European Union (1.47 per woman on average, and replacement level is 2.1), whose countries tend to be more generous toward the poor than they are here.

Niger, in contrast, has a per capita GDP of $739, but that extreme level of poverty and lack of welfare programs haven't deterred the women there from popping out an average of 7 children per woman.

[SteveG1]

Originally Posted by Kolga

He was from the "right kind" of people on assistance. You know...the "good" kind. (wink wink).

Ahh, that makes it OK then.

<sly nod>

[Sampiro]

Originally Posted by SteveG1

Is it still too soon to make A Modest Proposal?

South Carolina has some pretty good barbecue restaurants and the price of pork is e'er rising. Just saying.

[Claude Remains]

Give poor kids books. Poor=stupid right? Poor stupid kids will chew the covers off of books and have something relating to nutrition that will keep them alive without having the energy to procreate.

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by elucidator

When not so good people experience poverty, they become bitter and stingy.

Yes. Especially if they are so poor that they are forced to eat nothing but napkin sandwiches.

[ivn1188]

Originally Posted by Lobohan

I just wanted you to know, I was so uninterested in your comments that I actually didn't read them.

Not a surprising behavior from someone with such a... distinguished record of thoughtfulness. Way to really make yourself credible, there.

[Guinastasia]

If you're going to insult me, could you at LEAST spell my name right? Thnx.

[Lobohan]

Originally Posted by ivn1188

Not a surprising behavior from someone with such a... distinguished record of thoughtfulness. Way to really make yourself credible, there.

I'll put my record of thoughtfulness against... ur butt.

I'm out!

[MrDibble]

Originally Posted by Oakminster

Nah. We want to be entertained. Tell us how your fury burns with the heat of your asshole after a jalapeno and tequila bender. Show us your outrage. Make us feel the injustice. A well crafted rant can be a thing of beauty. Instead, you've demonstrated that you know how to start a thread, cut & paste text, and include a link.

You're not going to start with that Pit rating shit again, are you? Last time did not end well for you, remember?

[born too late]

Originally Posted by Markxxx

To quote: "It's like saying only rich people should be allowed to have kids."

The one thing these people are forgetting is: if poor people stop having kids, who's going to be working in their factories and picking their fruit in the future? Who's going to be buying their plastic disposable crap and McDonalds 'food'? They think profits just grow on trees?

[Little Nemo]

Holy crap, that's some pretty good irony right there.

No, strong evidence that Bauer may be correct. Look at his family history. His grandmother was, by all accounts, an intelligent woman. Then his parents fed young Andre some welfare food. And he then grew up to be an idiot.

Coincidence? I think not.

[Really Not All That Bright]

I vote we deny Andre Bauer food to make sure he doesn't breed.

[Zeriel]

Originally Posted by ivn1188

Problem is, anytime someone does that, a bunch of loathsome toads come along and cry "OP is a mean asshole" and "what gives the OP the right to tell everyone what to do". This is usually accomplished in the style of this thread's OP, by which I mean uninventive and dull.

Then Guinistatia comes along near the end of the first page to agree with the majority, which generally coincides with the appearance of the pitted poster to either pull a FinnAgain and froth about "You're an idiot! A stupid idiot! You're so idiotic, you're stupid!" for about 14 paragraphs, or a simpering, apologetic post: "I'm sorry, I usually post about puppies and polyamory in MPSIMS, but I was so mad I typed the word f*ck in my post, so there."

You forgot "And then to top it off ivn1188 strolls in like he owns the place and waves his tinny little PIT COP badge all over, as though anyone does anything but laugh at him when he does it.".

[Oregon sunshine]

The endless class war continues on...

[Zebra]

I think I'll change my user name to The OP so everyone will think I'm a bad-ass.

[Kyla]

Originally Posted by 3:20:59 or bust

Well, he seems like a shitty Lt. Governor, but I thought he did a great job when he was on Homicide: Life on the Street.

What?

I'm glad I wasn't the only person who had this thought. Frank Pembleton would never say anything so stupid.

[Sampiro]

Originally Posted by Little Nemo

No, strong evidence that Bauer may be correct. Look at his family history. His grandmother was, by all accounts, an intelligent woman. Then his parents fed young Andre some welfare food. And he then grew up to be an idiot.

Coincidence? I think not.

Reminds me for some reason of two from Chris Rock:

[CHRIS ROCK]"Don't drink that! That's foster kid juice!"[/CHRIS ROCK]

also

[CHRIS ROCK {on the off-brands of products in poorer neighborhood stores}]"Mama, I didn't know Nipsey Russell made peanut butter."[/quote]

[legalsnugs]

Originally Posted by Little Nemo

I envy whoever's running against this guy. Because politicians dream of having an opponent say something like this.

Well, you gotta remember, this is in South Carolina, where politicians say truly abysmally stupid things on a pretty regular basis. Andre is running for governor this year. He pretty much trashed Mark Sanford when the whole "hiking the Appalachian Trail" thing broke, on Rachel Maddow's show no less. He is absolutely the reason Sanford is still in office.

The really scary part of what Bauer said was the reaction of The State newspaper's readership (e.g. cite). WAY too many people supported him and his loathsome statements and decried welfare recipients and the system without knowing the first thing about it. They all just "know" that lazy "welfare queens" are all over the landscape, popping out more "strays" that the "good" people will have to pay for, but none could offer a single cite to support their or Bauer's assertions (I asked). One poster, a public school teacher, said the "strays" should be "put out of our misery."

And the Republican "leadership's" response has been lukewarm at best; none have condemned his message or offered rebuttals. They agree he probably shouldn't have used those words necessarily, but the message was probably sound. Yes, these are the Republicans who have been in charge of that shithole state for decades. I think their re-election strategy is "Keep them poor, sick and stupid and they'll keep voting for us!" This whole episode doesn't say any good things about the state. So, yes, please, pit away.

And no one in South Carolina is worried that this man will reproduce.

[Sampiro]

Originally Posted by legalsnugs

Well, you gotta remember, this is in South Carolina, where politicians say truly abysmally stupid things on a pretty regular basis. Andre is running for governor this year.

I was just talking to a student who's from South Carolina and whose brother is a political reporter in Columbia and we were discussing what a debt Alabama and several other states owe S.C. in the past couple of years for trumping our own politician's dumbass quotes in the national press. (He told me something I didn't know about Sanford, which was that Appalachian Trail/Argentine Tail woman's son- who was furious at her for cheating on his father- was responsible for the email leak of Sanford's e-missives.)

[kaylasdad99]

Originally Posted by Sampiro

(He told me something I didn't know about Sanford, which was that Appalachian Trail/Argentine Tail woman's son- who was furious at her for cheating on his father- was responsible for the email leak of Sanford's e-missives.)

That's fascinating. I wonder if they have a Geraldo Primaveradero show in Rio.

[bri1600bv]

What he said was ill worded and insulting, but basically he has a point, doesn't he?

People shouldn't have kids they can't afford, in my opinion. Do I want to control people's birthing? No, but I don't want to pay for all their brats and the next generation of criminals either. If you're on welfare, don't have kids. If you do, then go support yourself.

Sorry if that offends people, but it's not fair to people who are actually working to have to support more and more parasites. I have my own dependents to support, I don't want to support theirs as well.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Originally Posted by bri1600bv

What he said was ill worded and insulting, but basically he has a point, doesn't he?

No.

People shouldn't have kids they can't afford, in my opinion. Do I want to control people's birthing? No, but I don't want to pay for all their brats and the next generation of criminals either. If you're on welfare, don't have kids. If you do, then go support yourself.

Sorry if that offends people, but it's not fair to people who are actually working to have to support more and more parasites. I have my own dependents to support, I don't want to support theirs as well.

Aside from your cartoonishly bogus perception of the kinds of families that recieve assitance (most of them work.), the kids themselves aren't to blame, and they're already born.

There isn't any welfare anymore, by the way.

[legalsnugs]

Originally Posted by bri1600bv

What he said was ill worded and insulting, but basically he has a point, doesn't he?

People shouldn't have kids they can't afford, in my opinion. Do I want to control people's birthing? No, but I don't want to pay for all their brats and the next generation of criminals either. If you're on welfare, don't have kids. If you do, then go support yourself.

Sorry if that offends people, but it's not fair to people who are actually working to have to support more and more parasites. I have my own dependents to support, I don't want to support theirs as well.

Because it's a MYTH! He doesn't have a point because it's NOT true. See the article "Facts don't back Bauer's remarks" for a start. He says crap like that to stir up the redneck base in SC and it's a large contingent that all the Republican candidates for governor are fighting for.

Good God. I weep for the whole country.

[Little Nemo]

Andre Bauer says he is Pro-Life. Which apparently means he is opposed to people having children and not having children.

So I think the only point Bauer has is the one on the top of his head.

[gonzomax]

Originally Posted by born too late

The one thing these people are forgetting is: if poor people stop having kids, who's going to be working in their factories and picking their fruit in the future? Who's going to be buying their plastic disposable crap and McDonalds 'food'? They think profits just grow on trees?

The ex middle class . That is who will take the low paying jobs of the future. The poor will be ignored and then hunted.