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Your Favorite All-Time TV Shows -- Second Pass
Posts in the thread The Best All-Time TV Show [vote for up to 10] indicated that some people weren't aware of the first pass thread or else they were disappointed some of their favorite shows weren't included in the Top 51 shows involved in the voting in that linked thread.
There were some additional posts in Your Favorite All-Time TV Shows after the poll was put up. So I have added those shows (or the additional votes for them) to the ones that didn't make the cut to the Top 51 in the poll as of these posts: #34 Yesterday, 05:45 PM by gladtobeblazed (in the poll thread) and #83 Yesterday, 12:27 AM by MadTheSwine (in the original "Favorites" thread) To give everybody another shot at helping to select the next Top 50 for a second poll, please look over this list and either select your Top Ten from it or add enough shows to what's already here to make a Top Ten. As before the shows that make the cut for the poll will be the ones mentioned the most. I'll leave this thread open until the end of May before selecting the next poll's shows. ================================================= A&E Literary Classics Absolutely Fabulous Alfred Hitchcock American Experience America's Test Kitchen Antiques Roadshow As Time Goes By Batman Beauty and the Beast Big Bang Theory The Big Valley Bob Newhart (the first one) Bones (2) Brotherhood Burn Notice Burns and Allen Callan Captain Midnight Carol Burnett Show Charmed China Beach CHiPs Clangers Cold Case Files Combat! The Cosby Show Cosmos (2) Coupling (2) Cracker Criminal Minds CSI: Crime Scene Investigation C-SPAN's Booknotes with Brian Lamb Dark Shadows The Day The Universe Changed Dexter Dirty Jobs Ernie Kovaks Show Father Dear Father Family Feud Flip This House Forensic Files Frazier Friday Night Lights Friends Frontline F Troop The Fugitive (2) The Games Generation Kill (2) Get Smart (2) Ghoulardi Gilmore Girls (2) The Good Life (UK) (2) Good Neighbors (2) Good Times Have Gun, Will Travel Hawaii Five-O Hill Street Blues Hogans Heroes Homicide (2) Howdy Doody I Love Lucy (2) In Treatment It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia The Jack Benny Show The Jeffersons Jeopardy! (2) Jonny Quest Jungle Jim Justice League Keen Eddie King Of Queens King of the Hill Kolchak: The Night Stalker L.A. Law Late Night With David Letterman (2) Law and Order (the Brisco and Green years) (2) Law And Order: Special Victims Unit Life Live Action Sailor Moon Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Lost in Space Louis Theroux's documentaries MacGyver The Man From UNCLE Married With Children The Mary Tyler Moore Show (2) Masterpiece Theatre Maverick Max Headroom McKenzies Raiders (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya) The Middleman Mission: Impossible Mr. Show Monday Night Football (3) Monk (2) The Muppet Show (2) Murphy Brown (2) My So-Called Life Mystery Science Theater 3000 (Especially the Joel years) Mythbusters The Nanny Night Court Numb3rs NYPD Blue (3) The Office (USA) (2) The Old Grey Whistle Test On The Air One Piece Outer Limits (2) Outrageous Fortune (NZ) Perry Mason The Planet Planet Earth The Pretender The Price is Right Pride & Prejudice (the Colin Firth version) Prison Break The Prisoner Prisoner (known as Prisoner: Cell Block H outside Australia) The Professionals Psych QI (2) Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares (UK) Red Dwarf (3) Ripping Yarns The Rockford Files The Rogues Roseanne (3) Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In Sanford and Son (2) SNL Scrubs 77 Sunset Strip Shameless 60 Minutes (2) Soap Sons of Anarchy (2) South Park (3) Spaced Spongebob Squarepants Spooks Star Trek Deep Space Nine (3) Summer Heights High Sunday Morning on CBS Supernatural The Sweeney Tales of the Gold Monkey Taxi (2) Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles 3rd Rock from the Sun (2) Third Watch 30 Rock (2) 3's Company The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson Top Gear (2) Tour of Duty Two Fat Ladies Undeclared Unsolved Mysteries Upstairs, Downstairs Venture Brothers Vicar Of Dibley (2) Wallace and Ladmo Wanted: Dead or Alive Weeds Welcome Back Kotter Wojeck The X-Files (4) Yes Minister Yes Prime Minister The Young Ones Zorro (Disney) Last edited by Zeldar; 05-10-2010 at 04:50 PM. Reason: spelling |
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I should have said that the 51 shows in the current poll wil not be added to this new list. Depending on the final votes for those 51 shows, the top 20 (or so) will join the Top 20 from this next poll for a Top 40 shows poll.
So don't mention the 51 shows in the poll already underway. They'll be wasted votes! |
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Where's Cop Rock?
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Carol Burnett
Dexter Hill Street Blues I Love Lucy Mission: Impossible NYPD Blue The Price is Right South Park 30 Rock Yes, Minister |
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Thanks, Gangster Octopus and ArchiveGuy, for keeping this thread from being a total dud!
With your input we now have these shows with at least two votes each: ===================================== NYPD Blue (4) South Park (4) The X-Files (4) I Love Lucy (3) Monday Night Football (3) Red Dwarf (3) Roseanne (3) Star Trek Deep Space Nine (3) 30 Rock (3) Bones (2) Carol Burnett Show (2) Cosmos (2) Coupling (2) Dexter (2) The Fugitive (2) Generation Kill (2) Get Smart (2) Gilmore Girls (2) The Good Life (UK) (2) Good Neighbors (2) Hill Street Blues (2) Homicide (2) Jeopardy! (2) Late Night With David Letterman (2) Law and Order (the Brisco and Green years) (2) The Mary Tyler Moore Show (2) Mission: Impossible (2) Monk (2) The Muppet Show (2) Murphy Brown (2) The Office (USA) (2) Outer Limits (2) The Price is Right (2) QI (2) Sanford and Son (2) 60 Minutes (2) Sons of Anarchy (2) Taxi (2) 3rd Rock from the Sun (2) Top Gear (2) Vicar Of Dibley (2) Yes Minister (2) Yes Prime Minister (2) |
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It would appear that interest in this topic has died. I see no point in a follow-up poll.
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I'm confused. If we already gave our top ten in the other threads, do we need to do it again?
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If you're satisfied that the shows worth voting for were represented in that ongoing poll, this thread is not for you. Due to the lack of response to this one, I believe that's the case with most Dopers. If so, this thread is a dead issue. That any clearer? In short, this is just a glorified bump to the thread. It's been dormant for over a week. |
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Big Bang Theory
Carol Burnett Show The Cosby Show Criminal Minds Frazier Jeopardy! Law And Order: Special Victims Unit Night Court Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In Taxi |
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Thanks to Dolores Reborn we can elevate these shows to the more-than-one-mention group:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Carol Burnett Show (3) Jeopardy! (3) Taxi (3) Big Bang Theory (2) The Cosby Show (2) Criminal Minds (2) Frazier (2) Law And Order: Special Victims Unit (2) Night Court (2) Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In (2) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The 50 shows with more than one mention break down as: (4) x 3 (3) x 9 (2) x 38 Total 50 If we can get a few more Top Ten groups to help narrow down the field maybe we won't have to resort to all 50 choices to vote on. Right now, though, the 12 (4) and (3) shows seem a little skimpy. Whatever happens between now and next Monday will determine what the new poll will look like. |
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A vote for Keen Eddie, 30 Rock and Third Rock. I'm delighted to see Ghoulardi on the list but I'm too young to really remember it, so it wouldn't be honest for me to vote.
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(4) x 4 (3) x 9 (2) x 39 Total 52 =================================== 30 Rock (4) 3rd Rock from the Sun (3) Ghoulardi (2) ** Keen Eddie (2) ** I went ahead and added this since you at least mentioned it. +++++ May is running out and I plan to do whatever poll makes sense next Tuesday. If you've had complaints about your favorite show(s) not being included in the poll, now's your chance to make a meaningful comment. |
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Gilmore Girls
In Treatment Justice League My So-Called Life Sanford and Son Star Trek Deep Space Nine |
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Still not quite sure how this works.
Here are all the shows I'd want to be on the list: Angel, Being Human, Big Bang Theory, Bones, Brothers & Sisters, BSG, Buffy, Caprica, Castle, Dead Like Me, Defying Gravity, Dollhouse, Dr Horrible, Dr Who, Eastwick, Eureka, Family Guy, Firefly, Flash Forward, Fringe, Futurama, Glee, Gravity, How I Met Your Mother, Journeyman, Kings, Kyle XY, Legend of the Seeker, Lexx, Life is Wild, Lost, Middleman, Moonlight, Mysterious Cities of Gold, No 1 Ladies Detective Agency, One Tree Hill, Primeval, Psych, Pushing Daisies, Quantum Leap, Queer as Folk, Robot Chicken, Secret Diary of a Call Girl, Six Feet Under, Skins, Spartacus, Supernatural, Tales of the Gold Monkey, Terminator TSCC, The Lost Room, The Third Eye, The Tick, The various Star Treks, The various Stargates especially Universe, Torchwood, True Blood, Ugly Betty, US of Tara, Veronica Mars, Virtuality, War of the Worlds Personal top favs maybe: BSG Dr Who Firefly Flash Forward Glee HIMYM Lost Lost Room Middleman One Tree Hill Pushing Daisies Robot Chicken Quantum Leap Six Feet Under Stargate Universe The Lost Room War of the Worlds Favs that are probably obscure or underrepresented: Being Human Caprica Defying Gravity Gravity Journeyman Kings No 1 Ladies Detective Agency QAF Skins Spartacus Tales of the Gold Monkey Lost Room Third Eye War of the Worlds |
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Antiques Roadshow
The Cosby Show Law and Order (the Brisco and Green years) (2) The Muppet Show (2) QI (2) Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In Spaced 3rd Rock from the Sun (2) Venture Brothers The Young Ones Many of those shows - Antiques Roadshow, Cosby, Law & Order, Laugh-In, Young Ones - are what I consider to be ground-breaking shows in some fashion. I had pared the list down to 20 that I really enjoy, but got it down to these 10 that mean the most. |
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Just to repeat my plan: 1) Next Tuesday I will post a new poll with the titles that have been mentioned at least twice, and (if the results of this thread justify it) reduce the total number of titles to 50 or less, depending on the popularity in this thread of those titles. 2) After that new poll has had a chance to produce a "Top X-Number" of shows, they and the "Top X-number" from the ongoing poll will be combined for a Final Poll that ought to be able to satisfy most Dopers that their show(s) were given a fair chance to be voted on. 3) If there's still some dispute over the validity of the Final Poll, I'll deal with it at that time. |
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The current status of the summary is:
NYPD Blue (4) South Park (4) Star Trek Deep Space Nine (4) 3rd Rock from the Sun (4) 30 Rock (4) The X-Files (4) Big Bang Theory (3) Bones (3) Carol Burnett Show (3) The Cosby Show (3) Gilmore Girls (3) I Love Lucy (3) Jeopardy! (3) Law and Order (the Brisco and Green years) (3) Monday Night Football (3) The Muppet Show (3) QI (3) Red Dwarf (3) Roseanne (3) Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In (3) Sanford and Son (3) Taxi (3) (4) x 6 (3) x 16 (2) x 42 (not shown here) Total 64 (I'm leaning toward the (3) or better group for the poll, or 22 shows). =================================== 219 Total shows in this thread If you want to elevate a (1) or (2) mention show to consideration for the poll now's the time. |
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From the OP:
Antiques Roadshow Batman Bob Newhart (the first one) Carol Burnett Show Frasier Get Smart The Mary Tyler Moore Show The Muppet Show Soap The X-Files Since I couldn't find a definition of favorite in this thread or its predecessor, I only considered how likely I would be to turn on the TV if I knew a rerun was about to come on right now. Artistic interpretation and degree of difficulty didn't enter into it. ETA: On second look, I see the previous thread (the poll) specifies "best" whereas this one says "favorite." To my mind, those are different things. Last edited by TWDuke; 05-25-2010 at 05:59 PM. |
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Dexter should definitely be on the list.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Babylon 5. It was flawed and hasn't aged well, but it was very innovative (it was essentially a novel made into 100 hours of TV) in an era where arc-based serial dramas were pretty much unheard of. It was ambitious and still has some of the most amazing scenes and episodes in TV history. I'm not sure it's ever been topped in terms of how well planned and cohesive the story was - it's really still one of a kind. I wouldn't put it at #1, but it should definitely make the top 50 and be an option. Last edited by SenorBeef; 05-25-2010 at 10:45 PM. |
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Here's the group of at-least-two mentions. I'm planning to exclude the just-two shows which would leave a total of 27 for the poll. If you feel a just-two show should make the poll, list the ones that should move up.
Mentioning a show not in this list is going to need at least one other mention from somebody else before it wil make it to the poll. The X-Files (5) Carol Burnett Show (4) The Muppet Show (4) NYPD Blue (4) South Park (4) Star Trek Deep Space Nine (4) 3rd Rock from the Sun (4) 30 Rock (4) Antiques Roadshow (3) Big Bang Theory (3) Bones (3) The Cosby Show (3) Dexter (3) Frazier (3) Get Smart (3) Gilmore Girls (3) I Love Lucy (3) Jeopardy! (3) Law and Order (the Brisco and Green years) (3) The Mary Tyler Moore Show (3) Monday Night Football (3) QI (3) Red Dwarf (3) Roseanne (3) Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In (3) Sanford and Son (3) Taxi (3) Batman (2) Bob Newhart (the first one) (2) Cosmos (2) Coupling (2) Criminal Minds (2) The Fugitive (2) Generation Kill (2) Ghoulardi (2) The Good Life (UK) (2) Good Neighbors (2) Hill Street Blues (2) Homicide (2) In Treatment (2) Justice League (2) Keen Eddie (2) Late Night With David Letterman (2) Law And Order: Special Victims Unit (2) The Middleman (2) Mission: Impossible (2) Monk (2) Murphy Brown (2) My So-Called Life (2) Night Court (2) The Office (USA) (2) Outer Limits (2) The Price is Right (2) Psych (2) 60 Minutes (2) Soap (2) Sons of Anarchy (2) Spaced (2) Supernatural (2) Tales of the Gold Monkey (2) Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2) Top Gear (2) Venture Brothers (2) Vicar Of Dibley (2) Yes Minister (2) Yes Prime Minister (2) The Young Ones (2) =================================== (5) x 1 (4) x 7 (3) x 19 (2) x 40 Total 67 =================================== 220 shows mentioned in the thread =================================== |
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I would humbly suggest that "Yes Minister" and "Yes Prime Minister" are the same show. (It's the same characters, played by the same actors, in essentially the same relationship to each other -- they just got promoted), so a vote for either could be counted as a vote for both.
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Did you see my response to your "best" vs. "favorite" distinction in the other thread? I think "what you would choose to watch" is the best way to view the issue. |
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If you spot any inconsistencies of spelling or multiple mentions of the same show by different names or other such mislabelings of titles in this thread, please call them to my attention.
I'm changing the spelling of "Frazier" to "Frasier" (1993) so as to square it with IMDb's version. If there are other issues relating to the "best" vs. "favorite" or the threshold of "at least three mentions" to make it to the poll, or anything else you have a different opinion from mine about, please let me know before Tuesday. Last edited by Zeldar; 05-26-2010 at 08:04 AM. Reason: mutiple = multiple |
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I guess it's too late for a last-minute push for The Colbert Report or Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson. These are two of the few shows I actually make an effort to watch; I don't know why I didn't suggest them earlier.
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Another confusing case is "Doctor Who." The 2005-present series is listed as a different title than the 1963-1989 on IMDb, Wikipedia currently lumps them together, and the BBC seems somewhat ambivalent. "Antiques Roadshow" has U.S. and U.K. versions. Although the basic concept and format is similar, the tone is somewhat different, based on the episode's I've seen. You might want to specify which version you mean (or not). Also, "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" have had multiple incarnations. You might want to specify the original series (or not). Finally, you may want to clarify if people should vote for the series overall, or a specific run of episodes. For instance, people could be huge fans of The Simpsons from about season 4 to season 9 but despise what came before or after that. Similarly, MASH in its later season was vastly different from what it was in the early years. Of course you could just leave all that up to the voter. Now that I know it's not for college credit, I feel much more relaxed about it. |
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In each of these cases if there were sizable votes for the title, it might be worth breaking them down by season or by country. And it may come to that as a follow-up to the eventual poll that will merge the results of this next one with the ongoing one that ends in a couple weeks. I'm all for trying to resolve the "Favorite" TV Shows issue in whatever way makes best sense to Dopers. I'm open to any reasonable suggestions on how to do that. As it stands, here are the total number of mentions (or poll votes) for the programs you've mentioned: Doctor Who -- 33 poll votes Antiques Roadshow -- 3 thread mentions (will be in the new poll) The Twilight Zone -- 51 poll votes The Outer Limits -- 2 thread mentions (needs another before making it to the poll) The Simpsons -- 99 poll votes -- far and away the most popular show thus far MASH -- 62 poll votes Quote:
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I've had an idea I'd like some feedback on.
In trying to make the next poll reasonably small in terms of number of options to vote on, I have leaned in the direction of 3-mentions-and-up which will have (as of latest count) 29 items to vote on. This latest idea is to have two polls, with the second being the 2-mentions group. I have been uneasy about the arbitrariness of dropping the 2-mentions from consideration. With that being the latest thoughts I've had on the subject, if you've seen a show or shows in this thread that ought to go from one mention to being voteworthy, go ahead and mention it or them. It's getting closer to decision time and any input would be appreciated. |
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I tried to get it down to 10, but couldn't get it under 11. Shows I either currently or at one time considered "must not miss" programming:
Criminal Minds Friends Jeopardy! Law And Order: Special Victims Unit Monday Night Footbal The Muppet Show Mystery Science Theater 3000 Mythbusters Psych The X-Files The Young Ones |
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Two words:
Sports. Night. That is all. |
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This the one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Night
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As things stand at this moment, the 3-and-up Poll will consist of these shows:
The X-Files (6) The Muppet Show (5) Carol Burnett Show (4) Jeopardy! (4) Monday Night Football (4) NYPD Blue (4) South Park (4) Star Trek Deep Space Nine (4) 3rd Rock from the Sun (4) 30 Rock (4) Yes (Prime) Minister (4) Antiques Roadshow (3) Big Bang Theory (3) Bones (3) The Cosby Show (3) Criminal Minds (3) Dexter (3) Frasier (3) Get Smart (3) Gilmore Girls (3) I Love Lucy (3) Law and Order (the Brisco and Green years) (3) Law And Order: Special Victims Unit (3) The Mary Tyler Moore Show (3) Psych (3) QI (3) Red Dwarf (3) Roseanne (3) Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In (3) Sanford and Son (3) Taxi (3) The Young Ones (3) =================================== The counts are: (6) x 1 (5) x 1 (4) x 9 (3) x 21 (2) x 38 Total 70 =================================== Total shows in thread 220 (150 only mentioned once) |
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So far, your mention is the only one. It will be left behind unless somebody else wants to elevate it to the 2-mentions group, which now stands at these 38 shows:
Batman (2) Bob Newhart (the first one) (2) Cosmos (2) Coupling (2) Friends (2) The Fugitive (2) Generation Kill (2) Ghoulardi (2) The Good Life (UK) (2) Good Neighbors (2) Hill Street Blues (2) Homicide (2) In Treatment (2) Justice League (2) Keen Eddie (2) Late Night With David Letterman (2) The Middleman (2) Mission: Impossible (2) Monk (2) Murphy Brown (2) My So-Called Life (2) Mystery Science Theater 3000 (2) Mythbusters (2) Night Court (2) The Office (USA) (2) Outer Limits (2) The Price is Right (2) 60 Minutes (2) Soap (2) Sons of Anarchy (2) Spaced (2) Supernatural (2) Tales of the Gold Monkey (2) Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2) Top Gear (2) Venture Brothers (2) Vicar Of Dibley (2) The Young Ones (2) |
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Oh man....And I thought Sports Night had a pretty decent following on the Dope.
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I'll put in for Sports Night, King of the Hill and The Price is Right.
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Even though over 200 unique dopers have already voted in the ongoing poll, the responses to the threads themselves have been much less representative. We can only hope others will see fit to help select the next polls' contents before Tuesday. Quote:
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Who Posted? Total Posts: 36 Total Posts: 45 Total Posts: 84 Zeldar 19 Zeldar 15 Zeldar 19 Aeris 1 Alessan 1 AllShookDown 1 Angel of the Lord 1 ArchiveGuy 1 AtomicDog 1 AuntiePam 1 AuntiePam 4 AuntiePam 1 Baboonanza 1 BrotherCadfael 1 campp 1 Carmady 1 Chefguy 3 choie 1 Cicero 1 congodwarf 1 control-z 1 DeafAngelboy23 1 descamisado 3 DMark 1 Dolores Reborn 1 don't ask 1 don't ask 1 drm 1 Dr. Rieux 2 Enola Straight 1 Euthanasiast 1 Fir na tine 1 footballisplayedwithyourfeet 1 FordTaurusSHO94 1 furryman 1 gallows fodder 1 Gangster Octopus 1 Gangster Octopus 1 Giles 1 gladtobeblazed 1 Hal Briston 1 halfliquid 1 infinitii 1 In Winnipeg 1 jackdavinci 1 jackdavinci 1 Johnny L.A. 1 JohnT 1 jools 1 kelly5078 1 kelly5078 3 lieu 1 lissener 1 luv2draw 1 MadTheSwine 1 maplekiwi 2 Markxxx 1 Maserschmidt 1 mecaenas 1 MsWhatsit 1 MTCicero 1 multimediac17 1 Mustardseed 1 nachtmusick 1 NoClueBoy 2 Nzinga, Seated 2 Paintcharge 1 panache45 1 Perciful 1 pinkyvee 1 Ponch8 1 RealityChuck 1 Red Barchetta 1 RickJay 1 RikWriter 1 robgotabingbang 1 runner pat 1 SaharaTea 1 salinqmind 2 SenorBeef 1 Sigmagirl 1 silenus 2 Sir T-Cups 3 Small Clanger 1 Student Driver 1 SunSandSuffering 1 tdn 1 tr0psn4j 2 tumbleddown 1 TWDuke 3 TWDuke 1 woodstockbirdybird 1 zamboniracer 2 ZipperJJ 1 Show Thread & Close Window 17 x 5 = 85 |
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No point in reposting summary data, as little has changed.
The counts are: =================================== (6) x 1 (5) x 1 (4) x 9 (3) x 22 (2) x 40 Total 73 =================================== 220 total shows mentioned So, unless there are drastic changes to the lists, the new polls will be for 3-and-up (33 shows) and 2-mentions (40 shows). Depending on the participation in those new polls there may be one final poll to combine the top x-number from each of the three into one Ultimate TV Shows Popularity Poll -- with the notions of "best" and "favorite" merging into the notion of "What I Watched Most." Still time for discussion and other ideas before Tuesday. |
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