xtisme, come on down, you muppet!

[ivan_astikov]

Okay, smart arse, here I am to be schooled by you on ufo’s.

But first, I suggest you acquire a copy of the book UFO’s and the National Security State. vol1. by Richard M. Dolan. Unless you are prepared to read this book and discuss the cases and information in it, and the implications thereof, I am just going to assume you are a typical full of shit derbunker, afraid to read anything that might upset your misconceptions.

I don’t want to debate with you on the subject, as I’ve seen what a waste of time and mental energy that can be on the JREF. Instead, I want to have a casual discussion fitting the tone of your last post in Mr Kobayashi’s thread.

• twiddles thumbs in anticipation *

[Bricker]

@ivan_astikov

Okay, smart arse, here I am to be schooled by you on ufo’s.

But first, I suggest you acquire a copy of the book UFO’s and the National Security State. vol1. by Richard M. Dolan. Unless you are prepared to read this book and discuss the cases and information in it, and the implications thereof, I am just going to assume you are a typical full of shit derbunker, afraid to read anything that might upset your misconceptions.

I don’t want to debate with you on the subject, as I’ve seen what a waste of time and mental energy that can be on the JREF. Instead, I want to have a casual discussion fitting the tone of your last post in Mr Kobayashi’s thread.

• twiddles thumbs in anticipation *

Dolan doesn’t seem to have authored much in the way of peer-reviewed literature.

[ivan_astikov]

@Bricker

Dolan doesn’t seem to have authored much in the way of peer-reviewed literature.

Who are his peers?

[silenus]

The baboon cage at the National Zoo?

[Hal_Briston]

Why you gotta badmouth baboons like that?

[Giraffe]

ivan, you know what would make this thread interesting for people who aren’t you or xtisme? A link to whatever it is you’re talking about.

Also, every nutball retard on the Internet loves to play the “you can’t argue against [crazy conspiracy theory] until you read/watch [crazy conspiracy theory book/website/YouTube video]” card. I’m sure it feels like a power move when you’re typing it, but it doesn’t work: you’ve got to make a convincing case yourself, you can’t pawn it off on the reader.

[ivan_astikov]

Bollocks. I’m not playing the game to your rules. I make my own up, as and when suitable.

This is my thread, until some mod gets over-zealous.

[Grey]

Ohhhh UFO discussion rules. I can’t imagine how this wont be productive.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

Why don’t you summarize the relevant information from Mr. Dolan’s book. I think it would be helpful if you could cite whatever you believe is the single strongest, and most irrefutable piece of evidence that earth has been visted by extraterrestrial spacecraft.

[ivan_astikov]

Something of an aperitif.

Report on a Survey of the Membership of the American Astronomical Society Concerning the UFO Phenomenon - Summary

Refereed journals, to which scientists turn for their reliable information, carry virtually no information on the UFO problem. Does this imply that scientists have no views and no thoughts on the subject, or that all scientists consider it insignificant? Does it imply that scientists have no reports to submit comparable with UFO reports published in newspapers and popular books? The purpose of this survey is to answer these questions.

Analysis of the returns shows that older scientists are markedly more negative to the problem than are younger scientists

Fortunately, they’ll all be dead at some point.

[Buck_Godot]

@ivan_astikov

Bollocks. I’m not playing the game to your rules. I make my own up, as and when suitable.

This is my thread, until some mod gets over-zealous.

Ivan, the thing is if you make up your own rules and no one else thinks their good rules, you just end up playing with yourself (in all meanings of the word).

[Giraffe]

@ivan_astikov

Bollocks. I’m not playing the game to your rules. I make my own up, as and when suitable.

This is my thread, until some mod gets over-zealous.

Well, masturbate away, then. I’m going to move out of the blast radius.

[Trepa_Mayfield]

Well huh. I knew ivan was insane, but I didn’t realize he was that insane. Learn something new every day.

[ivan_astikov]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

Why don’t you summarize the relevant information from Mr. Dolan’s book. I think it would be helpful if you could cite whatever you believe is the single strongest, and most irrefutable piece of evidence that earth has been visted by extraterrestrial spacecraft.

Doesn’t work like that. I had to make the effort to acquire it and read it. Anyone who wants to argue in good faith can do the same.

[ivan_astikov]

@Giraffe

Well, masturbate away, then. I’m going to move out of the blast radius.

Bye. I don’t remember inviting you anyway.

[ivan_astikov]

@Buck_Godot

Ivan, the thing is if you make up your own rules and no one else thinks their good rules, you just end up playing with yourself (in all meanings of the word).

I don’t mind. I only stated the thread to be made a fool of by xtisme. Should be fun to watch, even if you don’t take part.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Ivan's crackpot cite

Refereed journals, to which scientists turn for their reliable information, carry virtually no information on the UFO problem.

They don’t carry any information on the werewolf problem either.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@ivan_astikov

Doesn’t work like that. I had to make the effort to acquire it and read it. Anyone who wants to argue in good faith can do the same.

No, it doesn’t work that way at all, actually. If you’re unwilling to support your case, then you can’t engage in any kind of meaningful discussion.

[Shodan]

@pedescribe

Well huh. I knew ivan was insane, but I didn’t realize he was that insane. Learn something new every day.

I doubt that he is - this is just trolling.

Regards,
Shodan

[ivan_astikov]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

They don’t carry any information on the werewolf problem either.

Yes, because the military have long had an interest in werewolves.

Do try harder.