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Old 08-25-2010, 08:23 AM
Orville mogul Orville mogul is offline
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smoking and smoke detectors

I recently spent a week in a hotel in Beijing, and despite having a non-smoking room, I had to change rooms three times before getting one that didnít smell of cigarette smoke. Seeing that these rooms all had smoke detectors, it got me wondering how much cigarette smoke it would take to set off a smoke detector. These rooms all had them, but obviously the cigarettes didnít set them off.

And the corollary to this, do rooms that allow smoking NOT have smoke detectors?
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Old 08-25-2010, 08:40 AM
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It's extremely easily to temporarily disable a smoke detector.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:27 AM
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It's extremely easily to temporarily disable a smoke detector.
Even in a hotel room? How do they do it?
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:31 AM
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I think this was covered and there is a great answer here
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:32 AM
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I live in an apartment with a hard-wired smoke detector.

Last night I made blackened fish and smoked out the entire apartment. I don't know how the poor cats stood it.

In any case the smoke detector DID NOT go off, so I think that your hotel's detectors were just set for a higher density than plain cig smoke.

Also, being a foreign country, perhaps their maintenance standards weren't up to par...
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:52 AM
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It's extremely easily to temporarily disable a smoke detector.
Even in a hotel room? How do they do it?
They cover the sensor.
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:19 AM
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I do not use tobacco, but have smoked in hotel room bathrooms without having alarm bells sound.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:34 PM
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Are you sure the smoke detectors were even connected?

I have heard of hotels where the smoke 'detectors' were really just fake fittings, to reassure the customers, without the expense of installing & maintaining real smoke detectors. Same with security cameras, or even fire alarms!
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:23 AM
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Are you sure the smoke detectors were even connected?

I have heard of hotels where the smoke 'detectors' were really just fake fittings, to reassure the customers, without the expense of installing & maintaining real smoke detectors. Same with security cameras, or even fire alarms!
In Calif they are real. The system is tested yearly and goes through a complete test of every device every 5 years.
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Old 08-26-2010, 01:03 AM
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I do not use tobacco, but have smoked in hotel room bathrooms without having alarm bells sound.
What were you smoking, then?
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:00 AM
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Hotels frequently use less-sensitive smoke detectors. There's a lot of reasons for this - people [i]do[/[I] smoke in their rooms, it's a pain in the ass evacuating a hotel, some models can go off from steam if people shower with the bath door open, etc. Some hotels even install hidden, set-temperature backup alarms because people disabling the fire alarm and smoking is such a massive pain in the ass.
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:12 AM
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I think this was covered and there is a great answer here
thanks. I didn't see this one. Very helpful
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:25 AM
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I do not use tobacco, but have smoked in hotel room bathrooms without having alarm bells sound.
What were you smoking, then?
Hmmm. I do not see how that would be relevant to the OP.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:19 PM
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A friend just installed one over my kitchen, it went off just now as I was making toast in a pan ... not burning, just lightly toasting. I climbed on a chair and untwisted the wee demon, that'll show it.
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