SDMB Auction Fantasy Football 2011

SenorBeef · #1 07-03-2011, 11:02 AM

Last Year's thread

We are currently recruiting 1 member. We had 2 empty slots last year and had to run the league 10 handed. I've already recruited one replacement (D_odds who I know to be reliable from other leagues). I'm assuming the other ten will be back, but if I haven't heard from them by early August I will look to recruit for their slots - I don't want to wait too long and then have to run the league short handed like last year.

We'll proceed as if we expect the NFL season to begin on time, since there's not really anything else to do.

I picked the same relative day as we drafted last year - the Tuesday a week before the regular season opener. Tuesday, Aug 30, at 9:45pm eastern. We went to later starts last year to help west coasters get home from work, and the east coasters didn't seem to mind starting late, so unless there are objections I plan on using the same draft times as last year. If there's a problem with this, speak up now so that we can still get a good draft slot at the right time before they're all booked.

I plan on using the sunday through tuesday waiver system for free agents that we used last year. Yahoo automatically puts all players on waivers as of 1pm Sunday, so you can submit a claim rather than having the person closest to the computer pick them up as free agents. We've done this for a while now. The added rule is that if there are any games that start before Sunday at 1, you can't pick up those players after their game has begun - you have to wait until they go into the waiver pool on Sunday and put in a claim for them.

I also plan on doing the FAAB waiver system where you start with 100 to bid on players plus whatever leftover money you had from the draft.

I'm also going to keep the commissioner approval on trades for all the reasons I outlined last year. I will automatically and quickly approve any reasonable trade. If there's something fishy about a trade we'll discuss it, but there's no real chance of a trade being rejected in this league - we're all serious players, no one will say "fuck it" and throw their season, we all know enough not to get ripped off, and as we've proved, people tend not to want to rock the boat and vote against trades anyway.

Practically, this means you have later in the week to work out trades. Previously if you worked out a trade on friday evening, that trade wouldn't go through by the time Sunday's games started, so you'd be screwed if someone got hurt late in the week or if you just didn't have time to conduct the negotiations. Now you can make trades up until Sunday morning and still get them through before the game starts.

I'm usually around early Sunday mornings to push trades through, but if you make a very late trade on Saturday night or Sunday morning, I may not be able to approve it in time. If that happens, both of you should make your intent clear "I plan on starting player X I just traded for in place of player Y" and I can retroactively make the rosters reflect that.

If there are any problems with these policies, feel free to voice them and we'll discuss it.

Yahoo has some new scoring metrics available, so we should discuss if we want to use them, and generally any other tweaks we want to make to our scoring system.

Our historical standings:
2007:
1. Omniscient
2. Boozahol Squid, PI
3. LOUNE
4. SenorBeef
5. VarlosZ
6. Chuck (from off board - the roomate)
7. Ellis Dee
8. Kiros

2008:
1. Hamlet
2. It's Not Rocket Surgery
3. Mike (the random dude in our mock draft on ESPN who became part of our league)
4. SenorBeef
5. Kiros
6. Boozahol Squid, PI
7. Spiritus Mundi
8. Ellis Dee
9. Chuck
10. VarlosZ
11. Omniscient
12. RNATB

2009:
1. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef)
2. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
3. The One Man League (It's Not Rocket Surgery)
4. Orlando Rage (RNATB)
5. Quentin's Jammers (Jules Andre)
6. Overly Sentimental (Chuck)
7. Show me your TDs (Mike)
8. Varlos' Zzzzzz (VarlosZ)
9. Last Place (Kiros)
10. The Jackson 4 (Hamlet)
11. Chicago Cutlery (Omniscient)
12. Cobra Kai (Boozahol Squid, PI)

2010:
1. New New York Benders (It's Not Rocket Surgery!)
2. Quentin's JAMmers (Jules Andre)
3. Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef)
4. Varlos' Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ)
5. Overly Sentimental (Chuck)
6. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
7. Chicago Cutlery (Omniscient)
8. Show me your TD's (Mike)
9. Crowley's Bentley (Hamlet)
10. Phoenix Redbirds (dalej42)

dalej42 · #2 07-03-2011, 04:47 PM

I'm NOT going to finish in last place this year.

Anyone have interest in setting up some mock auction drafts? I'd love to do some mocks and I'm usually free on Weds/Sat/Sun.

I like keeping the draft time late for us Pacific Time Zoners. Thankfully, I'm changing to a very early schedule in late August, but the draft times are perfect for me.

SenorBeef · #3 07-17-2011, 10:57 PM

We still have one slot to recruit for. I'll only accept people with some history of being reliable FFers.

MTRG · #4 07-18-2011, 07:58 PM

I'm interested if the space is still open.

SenorBeef · #5 07-18-2011, 10:54 PM

You seem like good people MTRG, but have you done any SDMB fantasy football outside of the big league last year? It's not a requirement, I'm just trying to size up the experience and participation level of the candidates.

I received an e-mail from Mike/Show me your TDs saying he wouldn't be able to return this year, maybe next year. So we'll have two slots open.

MTRG · #6 07-19-2011, 10:52 AM

What can I say? I have been doing FF for years, ran a league back in the day (before computer scoring!) Recently, been mostly active in baseball and hockey, but felt like I wanted to get back into football.

Got into the league last year. Kind of want a bit more this year.

Got sold on the Auction draft over the past year and want to give it a whirl for football.

Would much rather play with the SDMB gang, since I at least recognize a few of the folks.

If you are concerned about me being active, don't worry, I work at a computer all day and am not the kind of guy who would drop out.

DragonAsh · #7 07-20-2011, 09:37 AM

I'm also interested - I've played fantasy football & baseball for 10 years, been commish for the last 3-4 in baseball.

I'll fight MTRG for the last spot <g>.

SenorBeef · #8 07-21-2011, 02:52 PM

Alright. Usually in the auction league I tend to want to find people that have an established history on the SDMB - it's probably our most competitive league overall (IMO) so it's not a starter league. But I know MTRG compiled a good year in the big league last year, so that's cool. I sent you an invite through the normal yahoo channels, tell me if you need the league ID and password.

DragonAsh, you have no history but you do seem to be interested in the sdmb fantasy leagues so I think I may roll the dice on you. I notice you're from London ... it's essential to attend the draft in an auction draft even moreso than it is for regular drafts. We'll be drafting at 9:45pm eastern, which I believe would be 2:45am your time. Would you be able to make the draft for sure?

MTRG · #9 07-21-2011, 08:22 PM

OK Beef, thanks for the go ahead.

Duke's Devils are now on the roll call. Have the draft on my calendar and can't wait.

Kind of suprised that you let a Pittsburgh guy join, but hey, guess you have to mix it up a bit.

Boozahol Squid, P.I. · #10 08-02-2011, 05:35 AM

Dibs on a spot in next year's auction.

DragonAsh · #11 08-02-2011, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorBeef

Alright. Usually in the auction league I tend to want to find people that have an established history on the SDMB - it's probably our most competitive league overall (IMO) so it's not a starter league. But I know MTRG compiled a good year in the big league last year, so that's cool. I sent you an invite through the normal yahoo channels, tell me if you need the league ID and password.

DragonAsh, you have no history but you do seem to be interested in the sdmb fantasy leagues so I think I may roll the dice on you. I notice you're from London ... it's essential to attend the draft in an auction draft even moreso than it is for regular drafts. We'll be drafting at 9:45pm eastern, which I believe would be 2:45am your time. Would you be able to make the draft for sure?

I can't figure out how I didn't see this post - did I miss out on the spot?

In any event - yes, a 3am time is fine for me if it's on the weekend.

Hamlet · #12 08-02-2011, 07:37 AM

I did my first mock auction draft of the year, and, once again, I realized how tough it is to conduct one with the computers running the show. We had 12 players to start, but after guys blew their wads getting three huge names, they'd brag about their great team and then leave. When the computer takes over, you lose any chance of getting your hidden gems on the cheap. It basically comes down to waiting for the computers to fill their rosters with guys you don't want, and hope the guys you do don't get nominated.

I imagine that they're can't be a whole lot of other options for mock auction drafts though. Anyone know of any, or had better luck on yahoo?

By the by, my team rocked.

1. Peyton Manning (Ind - QB) $27
2. Steven Jackson (StL - RB) $28
3. Calvin Johnson (Det - WR) $39
4. Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR) $34
5. Green Bay (GB - DEF) $4
6. Ryan Mathews (SD - RB) $22
7. Brandon Marshall (Mia - WR) $24
8. Roy Williams (Chi - WR) $2
9. James Jones (GB - WR) $2
10. Mason Crosby (GB - K) $2
11. Zach Miller (Oak - TE) $7
12. Kevin Kolb (Ari - QB) $2
13. James Starks (GB - RB) $2
14. Reggie Bush (Mia - RB) $1
15. Jermaine Gresham (Cin - TE) $2

Of course, I thought my team rocked after last year's draft, so take it for what it is worth.

DragonAsh · #13 08-02-2011, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamlet

I did my first mock auction draft of the year, and, once again, I realized how tough it is to conduct one with the computers running the show. We had 12 players to start, but after guys blew their wads getting three huge names, they'd brag about their great team and then leave. When the computer takes over, you lose any chance of getting your hidden gems on the cheap. It basically comes down to waiting for the computers to fill their rosters with guys you don't want, and hope the guys you do don't get nominated.

I imagine that they're can't be a whole lot of other options for mock auction drafts though. Anyone know of any, or had better luck on yahoo?

By the by, my team rocked.

1. Peyton Manning (Ind - QB) $27
2. Steven Jackson (StL - RB) $28
3. Calvin Johnson (Det - WR) $39
4. Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR) $34
5. Green Bay (GB - DEF) $4
6. Ryan Mathews (SD - RB) $22
7. Brandon Marshall (Mia - WR) $24
8. Roy Williams (Chi - WR) $2
9. James Jones (GB - WR) $2
10. Mason Crosby (GB - K) $2
11. Zach Miller (Oak - TE) $7
12. Kevin Kolb (Ari - QB) $2
13. James Starks (GB - RB) $2
14. Reggie Bush (Mia - RB) $1
15. Jermaine Gresham (Cin - TE) $2

Of course, I thought my team rocked after last year's draft, so take it for what it is worth.

bah - Mock auction drafts are pretty much meaningless if the PC is running things after the first few picks. Why'd you spend $4 on DEF? And...I mean, no, you're right. Brilliant strategy! In fact, I think you under-invested in DEF and K. Probably want to focus more of your money there...

dalej42 · #14 08-02-2011, 07:47 PM

Anyone like to get a mock auction draft together from some people from this league? We could set a time to meet on yahoo and hopefully fill enough of the draft room to get a somewhat meaningful auction.

MTRG · #15 08-02-2011, 08:53 PM

I think it's a cool idea.

I would really try to make a set time. during the day or evening?

dalej42 · #16 08-02-2011, 09:04 PM

Would have to be in the evening for me as I'm in Pacific time. Friday night maybe? Should be a slow time for mock drafts.

Overly Sentimental · #17 08-03-2011, 03:18 PM

Personally, I think we have to let Boozahol/Cobra Kai have his spot back over someone new. A man so established should be able to have a year off and come back.

My first post, btw. Only took 4 years.

SenorBeef · #18 08-06-2011, 09:17 PM

Cobra Kai would be first up because of his history of the league, but he says he'll be unavailable this year, and that he can play next year. Problem is - if we let in someone new this year, and no one quits, I can't really boot anyone to make room for him next year. He'd definitely be first up to replace anyone who decided to leave though.

This is copy/pasted from my all-pro post, but we have pretty much the same issues to discuss in this league:
Ok, so let's discuss any settings changes.

The default trade deadline is Nov 18, right before week 11. I'm inclined to bump it up to its latest date of Dec 2, right before week 13. The main reason for the trade deadline is so that someone can't just say "fuck it" and dump players to a friend that late into the season when they know they're screwed. Since none of us are going to do that, I see no reason not to extend the trading season as long as possible - there are still valid, mutually beneficial reasons to conduct trades that late.

Commissioner review of trades and fast tracking, as well as FAAB is detailed in the OP, but speak up if there's a problem with either.

We can reseed the playoffs. By default, there's a bracket formed at the start of the playoffs and the bracket will always play out that way. But we could do it like the actual NFL playoffs where every round a new bracket is made so that the top seeds always play the lowest seeds. I'm inclined to turn that on.

We can tweak our current scoring system. There are also new scoring categories added to yahoo this year.

Should we add or change any roster positions?

I assume we're too firmly established to do anything drastic like start having keepers or drafting defensive players, but if you have any ideas go ahead and voice them.

dalej42 · #19 08-07-2011, 12:25 PM

I like as late of a trade deadline as possible. This isn't a keeper league and no one in this league is going to trade Michael Vick for a kicker.

It's Not Rocket Surgery! · #20 08-07-2011, 12:29 PM

I agree with the adjustable seeding. The more benefits given to teams with the better records during the playoffs, the more meaningful the regular season becomes.

DragonAsh · #21 08-07-2011, 02:01 PM

Just confirming the roster: Is the 3rd WR a flex position (i.e., any WR-RB-TE)?

SenorBeef · #22 08-07-2011, 02:06 PM

DragonAsh will take our 12th slot. I generally don't like to recruit outsiders with no history to the auction league, but he seems very enthusiastic about getting into the SDMB leagues, so I'm hoping that will translate into a high level of participation throughout the year.

And no, there are no flex slots in this league. The roster spots are a pretty standard QB, WRx3, RBx2, TE, K, D.

DragonAsh · #23 08-07-2011, 02:11 PM

Txs for having my guys. Look forward to a great season; I wish you all (limited) success,

Ellis Dee · #24 08-07-2011, 07:51 PM

Welcome aboard.

Jules Andre · #25 08-07-2011, 10:49 PM

Don't screw it up like that last guy. Speaking of which, they never found him, right?

Jules Andre · #26 08-25-2011, 03:38 AM

After last season's bitter, embarrassing loss in the championship game and general poor management of the team, all of the team's administration was forced to commit seppuku rather than face the dishonor of another losing season. From the still-warm entrails it was divined how to complete the championship mission and the team was immediately packed up and moved to a better climate. The team name and colors have changed to inspire more merchandise sales. We are now HungryHungryHaruspex in honor of that fateful night. (And because it's too many characters for Yahoo to allow me a space or two)

Hamlet · #27 08-25-2011, 07:19 AM

Welcome DragonAsh. I expect you to send me donuts and pick up my pads after practice.

Ellis Dee · #28 08-27-2011, 05:20 PM

It's conceivable that the hurricane could knock out my power for multiple days. It's supposed to hit Sunday morning. Hopefully I'll make the draft, but if I don't have power I don't have power.

Jules Andre · #29 08-27-2011, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellis Dee

It's conceivable that the hurricane could knock out my power for multiple days. It's supposed to hit Sunday morning. Hopefully I'll make the draft, but if I don't have power I don't have power.

I'm sure once it hits and society crumbles into chaos and anarchy that you'll be able to loot a generator. Should be fine.

(Stay safe)

Ellis Dee · #30 08-27-2011, 07:35 PM

I'm not in a particularly dangerous area storm-wise, and I just finished putting sandbags (salt bags, actually) all around the garage door to keep flooding at bay so I should be fine. The problem is that I'm in a terrible spot for power, frequently losing it. Losing power for 8+ hours is not at all uncommon from just regular storms, of which we get a lot. (This past February I lost power for 8 hours; house got down to 51 degrees before the power came back on...brrr!)

So I'm expecting to be fine but also to be without power for days.

SenorBeef · #31 08-27-2011, 09:44 PM

If you have time, pre-rank/value some of your targets.

Ellis Dee · #32 08-28-2011, 02:00 PM

It's all good, 54% of my town (and neighboring towns) lost power but I was not one of them.

D_Odds · #33 08-28-2011, 06:11 PM

I'm ready for the draft...

OK, so not really. I've got two days to figure out which kicker to draft in the first round and which defense in the second, and which tight end in the third. I've got a lot of reading to do.

Jules Andre · #34 08-28-2011, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_Odds

I'm ready for the draft...

OK, so not really. I've got two days to figure out which kicker to draft in the first round and which defense in the second, and which tight end in the third. I've got a lot of reading to do.

You should start by reading which type of draft you'll be studying for in this league.

D_Odds · #35 08-28-2011, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules Andre

You should start by reading which type of draft you'll be studying for in this league.

2 auction, 2 regular.

So who do you think I should go for in the first round? Mason Crosby, Nate Keading, or Stephen Gostkowski? Or should I set my sights lower?

Ellis Dee · #36 08-28-2011, 07:55 PM

It sounds like you're talking about the dynasty league. This is the auction league thread.

D_Odds · #37 08-28-2011, 08:51 PM

I'm in the auction league (and two others, but not the dynasty). Just having a little fun. Didn't realize it was already time to start setting teams this week until a few minutes before my first post. Haven't really been following the pre-season except for trying to see who my GIANTS will be fielding this year.

Hamlet · #38 08-30-2011, 02:49 PM

My internet is currently out, and I've had problems doing stuff on my phone, so I may have some problems tonight. Just wanted to give everyone the heads up.

It's Not Rocket Surgery! · #39 08-30-2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamlet

My internet is currently out, and I've had problems doing stuff on my phone, so I may have some problems tonight. Just wanted to give everyone the heads up.

I'd be available Friday night if necessary.

SenorBeef · #40 08-30-2011, 03:28 PM

Too late to reschedule. I won't even be at computer for hours. Try to figure something out. Friends house?

Someone send PM reminder about draft to everyone

DragonAsh · #41 08-30-2011, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorBeef

Too late to reschedule. I won't even be at computer for hours. Try to figure something out. Friends house?

Someone send PM reminder about draft to everyone

I'll be up - it will be 3am in Ol' Blighty

yes, my wife thinks I'm crazy....

Hamlet · #42 08-30-2011, 05:34 PM

Charter's system tech's have just left and have set me up with what they say should work for tonight. They'll replace it tomorrow. So it looks like I'm all set to go. After my dismal showing last year ($31 for Beanie Wells? $25 for Pierre Thomas and his ankle?), I have some respect to gain back.

SenorBeef · #43 08-30-2011, 06:33 PM

Well I hope everyone will be there. This year is rough on me - I spent the last week without any internet access so I'm way underprepared. Got 2 hours worth of cramming to do.

Hamlet · #44 08-30-2011, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorBeef

This year is rough on me - I spent the last week without any internet access so I'm way underprepared. Got 2 hours worth of cramming to do.

If it matters, the Lions cut some back named Jerome this week.

SenorBeef · #45 08-30-2011, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamlet

If it matters, the Lions cut some back named Jerome this week.

Based on how his career has gone, I actually believed that for a minute. Now I'm going to kick you in the taint and steal one of your targets.

dalej42 · #46 08-30-2011, 07:52 PM

When does Yahoo allow us into the draft room? I thought you could get into the draft room an hour before, but that might just be ESPN.

SenorBeef · #47 08-30-2011, 07:55 PM

Half hour I think.

Hamlet · #48 08-30-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorBeef

Based on how his career has gone, I actually believed that for a minute. Now I'm going to kick you in the taint and steal one of your targets.

Ahh, but it was absolutely true. The Lions cut a back by the name of Jerome. Jerome Felton.

Jules Andre · #49 08-30-2011, 08:03 PM

I've done maybe four thousand mock drafts in the last week or two and yet I feel completely unprepared. Granted the lot of you draft little better than a computer anyway, it still doesn't quite feel right.