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Old 12-26-2011, 06:20 PM
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Re TV show "Hardcore Pawn" - Is this show real or mainly scripted?

Re Hardcore Pawn. Some of the on the floor action seems real, but some of the confrontations seem so over the top you're thinking it's got to to be scripted with actors.

I weant online to read various comments and while some think it's scripted a number of people who work in that Detroit 8 Mile area indicate that insane over the top behavior is exactly the way a lot of people behave.

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Old 12-26-2011, 06:36 PM
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I say that anyone who wastes their time watching this show is debilitated mentally.

No, I've never watched the show, the description alone was enough for me to know the show is full of 'tard.
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Old 12-26-2011, 06:47 PM
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a number of people who work in that Detroit 8 Mile area indicate that insane over the top behavior is exactly the way a lot of people behave.
^this.

I have a friend who says he's familiar with the area. He watched the show and was not in any way surprised at the insanity of some customers.
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Old 12-26-2011, 06:48 PM
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I don't think it's scripted, but I do think people go down there looking for their 5 minutes of fame and might act appropriately over the top to make the edit. On the other hand, sometimes they are just being themselves.
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:11 PM
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I say that anyone who wastes their time watching this show is debilitated mentally.

No, I've never watched the show, the description alone was enough for me to know the show is full of 'tard.
I reported this post. It seems out of line.

I do live in the area and have never even heard of the place before the show. I can't speak for the show, but I assume they film special items/cases over again for the show.
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:20 PM
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I say that anyone who wastes their time watching this show is debilitated mentally.

No, I've never watched the show, the description alone was enough for me to know the show is full of 'tard.
This is what is known technically as threadshitting -- when you come into a thread for the sole purpose of declaring that you are better than the subject under discussion and to denigrate those participating in that discussion.

It is against the rules. Don't do it again.

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Old 12-27-2011, 06:21 PM
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In looking arond the net and seeing multiple examples of wireless mikes sticking out of the back of supposedly "out of control" customers I have to conclude it looks pretty scripted.
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:41 PM
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Being on FalsTruTV, they're probably reenactments with attitudes ramped up for entertainment.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:16 PM
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I don't know if the specific situations on the show are real or scripted, but living in close proximity to Detroit I would not be at all surprised if they were real. there are a depressing number of people in the entire Detroit Metro area who seem to think that everyone else exists for the sole purpose of giving them what they want.

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Old 12-29-2011, 09:30 PM
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I grew up (not!) and spent 40+ years living a tad north of 8 mile not far from that store (much closer to the trailer park in the movie '8 Mile'). The nature of the clientele and their aggressive behavior makes me remember how little I miss my hometown.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:44 PM
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I don't know if the specific situations on the show are real or scripted, but living in close proximity to Detroit I would not be at all surprised if they were real. there are a depressing number of people in the entire Detroit Metro area who seem to think that everyone else exists for the sole purpose of giving them what they want.
I think a lot of people say that about just about everywhere.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:24 PM
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Hardcore pawn, Real or Fake?

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Re Hardcore Pawn. Some of the on the floor action seems real, but some of the confrontations seem so over the top you're thinking it's got to to be scripted with actors.

I weant online to read various comments and while some think it's scripted a number of people who work in that Detroit 8 Mile area indicate that insane over the top behavior is exactly the way a lot of people behave.

What say you?

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OK, so the episode where the young white guy acting like he's black, who came in to pawn or sell a ring that is his GF, whose car he just happened to wreck which is why he needs the money now, so he tells the girl to step back and shut up, cuz men are talking, AND SHE DOES~~~!!!! The pawn guy tells the punk not to treat a woman that way, and the punk starts going OFF!! They then escort the punk out of the store, and he is FU ing the camera, and the pawn guy, OK< this is so FAKE!!!!
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:14 PM
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I don't know if the specific situations on the show are real or scripted, but living in close proximity to Detroit I would not be at all surprised if they were real. there are a depressing number of people in the entire Detroit Metro area who seem to think that everyone else exists for the sole purpose of giving them what they want.
Agreed. I also live in the Metro Detroit area, and worked at a place where I dealt with customers like this on a daily basis.

I take the show with a grain of salt in that it wouldn't surprise me if some, or even a lot, of the show is scripted but at the same time none of these blow-ups have been beyond the realm of possibility in my experience.
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:51 PM
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Considering that this is the same channel that proudly boasts the likes of Operation Repo and Lizard Lick Towing I would put my money on mostly or entirely staged/scripted.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:56 AM
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A friend told me that his pal went to the American Jewelry and Loan location and was approached by someone who said "We are having a slow day, here is a script".
I really like the show and while that was disapointing, I knew it had to be somewhat "put on" . This is fake reality but so what? I would rather watch the Gold family fight amongst themselves at a pawn shop than housewives of "whatever" county. So TPTB would rather have less expensive actors and actresses in TV drama than scripted TV is what it boils down to. They get Joe Blow off the street to read a script and Joe is happy that he got on TV. What is the harm? I am entertained by the show and isn't that why I am sitting in front of a tube?
Also, don't knock the show if you have not watched it. Try it - you might just get hooked.
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:40 PM
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The harm is if it's depicting Detroiters as basically animals I think...
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:58 PM
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A friend told me that his pal went to the American Jewelry and Loan location and was approached by someone who said "We are having a slow day, here is a script".
I really like the show and while that was disapointing, I knew it had to be somewhat "put on" . This is fake reality but so what? I would rather watch the Gold family fight amongst themselves at a pawn shop than housewives of "whatever" county. So TPTB would rather have less expensive actors and actresses in TV drama than scripted TV is what it boils down to. They get Joe Blow off the street to read a script and Joe is happy that he got on TV. What is the harm? I am entertained by the show and isn't that why I am sitting in front of a tube?
Also, don't knock the show if you have not watched it. Try it - you might just get hooked.
A literal "friend of a friend" anecdote!
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:03 PM
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A literal "friend of a friend" anecdote!
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And now we can all retell the story of a poster on a message board who had a friend who had a pal who....
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:30 AM
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I heard that Stephen Fry once ate a Budgerigar, live.

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Old 05-12-2013, 07:28 AM
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I heard that Stephen Fry once ate a Budgerigar, live.
Nah, it was taped in front of a live studio audience.
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:07 AM
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I saw the show once..man, most of their clients were pretty desperate people! It makes you realize just how bad the economy in Detroit is..and the fact that most of these folks have terrible credit makes them prey for all kinds of exploitation.
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Old 07-25-2014, 08:54 PM
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Definitely set up

This show is most definitely scripted. Not every word, but the situations are set up. Some of the minor interactions are not set up but all of the ridiculous crazy people are sent in to act like fools. I am from the area and have been in that store. Yes, there are some crazy people out there and sometimes some crazy things happen, but these over the top crazy people screaming and yelling and taking off their clothes are NOT real!

On top of being from the area and familiar with this store, I am also in the film industry and this is just the way things are done.

They even use some of the same actors more than once. I saw an episode where a guy came in from Chicago for a meeting about buying their location in Pontiac and he happens to be the same actor that was in the store on another episode and he wasn't from Chicago in that episode and he was screaming and yelling. And that is not the only actor I have seen more than once. Most people don't notice these things unless they are very familiar with the industry. Obviously set up...
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Old 07-25-2014, 08:59 PM
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A friend told me that his pal went to the American Jewelry and Loan location and was approached by someone who said "We are having a slow day, here is a script".
I really like the show and while that was disapointing, I knew it had to be somewhat "put on" . This is fake reality but so what? I would rather watch the Gold family fight amongst themselves at a pawn shop than housewives of "whatever" county. So TPTB would rather have less expensive actors and actresses in TV drama than scripted TV is what it boils down to. They get Joe Blow off the street to read a script and Joe is happy that he got on TV. What is the harm? I am entertained by the show and isn't that why I am sitting in front of a tube?
Also, don't knock the show if you have not watched it. Try it - you might just get hooked.
This is exactly how it works!!
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Old 07-25-2014, 09:15 PM
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It takes a lot of balls to stage a pawn-shop interaction.




Three, I guess.
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:23 PM
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It takes a lot of balls to stage a pawn-shop interaction.




Three, I guess.
If they're made of brass, it's even better.
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:52 PM
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Now they have and annoying "niece" working jewelry with Ashley the oompa-loompa.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:26 AM
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I despise the show simply because the Gold family are awful, awful people. Why, you ask? I don't know; they are just awful. I don't root for them in the least bit.

Now, Rick Harrison on Pawn Stars might be the biggest asshole in the world in real life, but at least within the world of the show, he's a nice guy and we can root for him, Chum, Corey, and the old man.

Even as portrayed, I hate Les Gold.

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Old 07-28-2014, 07:47 AM
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My brain tells me it's scripted but that same brain tells me that, if it IS scripted, then they employ some of the best natural acting talent in Hollywood because almost every "customer" seems totally natural in their delivery.

Don't you remember the episode where the gnarly chick took a piss in the parking lot on camera?

I do believe that most of the major item interactions are set up to make the show interesting on a "Pawn Stars" level, but I think most of the generic customer interactions are genuine, and that's where alot of the entertainment comes from. Every crisis amongst the Gold family is scripted though. Didn't that security guard that got fired for stealing magically show back up on the job in a later season?

Ashley looks hideous now but she wasn't awful looking int he first season.
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:06 AM
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I would be willing to go as far as saying the customers are real but the storylines such as selling the Pontiac store or the pirate tower are scripted and at best are dramatizations of real life events.
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:44 AM
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I do believe that most of the major item interactions are set up to make the show interesting on a "Pawn Stars" level, but I think most of the generic customer interactions are genuine, and that's where alot of the entertainment comes from. Every crisis amongst the Gold family is scripted though. Didn't that security guard that got fired for stealing magically show back up on the job in a later season?
I assumed that the people were told that if they were "more interesting", they would be more likely to be featured on camera and be paid more than the hundred bucks or whatever they just give anyone shown in background.
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