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Old 04-17-2012, 09:53 PM
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Is diaper punishment for real?

I am familiar with the concept of diaper punishment/discipline (in which a person with normal bladder/bowel control is forced to wear and/or use diapers) as an activity that takes place between consenting adults in a BD/SM relationship.

But then I found this site:

http:// diaperdiscipline.homestead.com/IntroductiontoDD.html
(it ainít porn, but itís graphic enough that itís probably NSFW)

which claims that diaper discipline is a form of punishment that is sometimes inflicted on minor children by their parent or guardian, the idea being to shame/humiliate unruly children into behaving themselves. The author goes on to describe in great detail how such diaper discipline is typically conducted. The logistics of it all seem somewhat implausible, and the details he describes sound like they were lifted straight out of the elaborate fantasies of an ABDL. Moreover, I have a hard time imagining that a parent would think that punishment like this would be a good idea.

OTOH, I have a hard time imagining that a parent would think itís a good idea to beat their child to death Ė but that seems to happen with depressing regularity. So it seems anything is possible.

Whatís the straight dope? Is diaper punishment of minor children a real thing that occurs with any notable frequency?
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:19 PM
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Yikes. Unfortunately, clicking around on the links leads me to believe that it is indeed a form of punishment used by some parents. Honestly, it seems far more cruel than a simple swat with a paddle...

Reading the linked site actually reminded me a lot of the Greek movie Dogtooth (available instantly on Netflix), about a family whose near-adult children have been isolated in their country estate from birth. It's sort of an exploration of how cruel parents can be to their children in the name of keeping them safe from "bad influences."
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:59 PM
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I have no idea if this is a real punishment or not, but I sadly believe it probably is. People are nuts.

The Internet continues to expose me to things I could never even come up with, and yet there seems to always be a group of people into every/any bizarre behavior that people can think of.

I wonder what I do that other people would think is bizarre?
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:09 AM
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I just read enough of that link that I could stand.

This is abuse, no two ways about it. I can see a child who is forced to wear diapers in their teens to kill their parents at the first opportunity.

If I was on the jury, I'd push for justifiable homicide and let the poor kid alone.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:49 PM
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The Internet continues to expose me to things I could never even come up with, and yet there seems to always be a group of people into every/any bizarre behavior that people can think of.
Are you talking about the consensual BD/SM activity, or the punishment of non-consenting children? If the former, well, I'm pretty bizarre myself, but there's a ton of stuff out there that exceeds even my own creativity. The rule 34 meme ("if you can imagine it, there is porn of it") only exists because there are people that actually do (or think about doing) those things. It's a big world, and there are a lot of very creative and open-minded people out there.

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Possibly nothing - in which case all the weirdos just think you're "vanilla."
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:15 PM
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Are you talking about the consensual BD/SM activity, or the punishment of non-consenting children? If the former, well, I'm pretty bizarre myself, but there's a ton of stuff out there that exceeds even my own creativity. The rule 34 meme ("if you can imagine it, there is porn of it") only exists because there are people that actually do (or think about doing) those things. It's a big world, and there are a lot of very creative and open-minded people out there.
Of course I'm not referring to consenting adults. They can do whatever they want to each other even if I may not understand the appeal. I'm talking about the abuse heaped on a non-consenting child.

People ARE more creative than I can conceive sometimes, and when it comes to stuff like this, there always seem to be at least two people that enjoy something off the path of what most people consider normal... And they somehow find each other.

But as long as the two people are adults and consent to the behavior, it's none of my business. As long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, and as long as the behavior itself isn't causing death to someone else ( or breaking a law somehow ), I say have at it. If you want to wear diapers and soil yourself, go right ahead. How that would excite someone is beyond me, but it's really not my business. Maybe those folks don't understand how I like a woman to wear lingerie. To each his own.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:43 PM
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IT IS! It happened to me

There are so many sites that talk about this subject that cloud the truth. After reading many of them, I can tell most are fictional. However, I was disciplined with diapers from age 6 to 9 so I know it does really happen though not nearly as often as the sites say. My first time was at six, I was playing in the yard with other children and had to use the bathroom. Not wanting to stop long enough to go inside, I wet behind a tree. The youngest boy ran inside and told on me. I was called in and told to remove all my clothes. She then fetched some of the baby's cloth diapers and forced me onto the kitchen table. As I fought back, she had the older boys hold me down as she pinned me into my shame.

I was made to remain in just the diapers all day until I couldn't help but wet myself and then I was again stood before the others while they were told to point and call me a baby. That night, she put a rubber sheet on my bed and made me sleep in the still damp diapers. The next morning, she came and told me go take a bath while she set out my regular clothes.

After that day, every time I did something she didn't like, I was again put in diapers as a way of punishment. None of the other children were ever punished this way as she used me to threaten them the same treatment if they misbehaved. Though they did misbehave at times, she never diapered them which still puzzles me. This all really happened though I can't prove it. But I'm sure it does happen and still goes on since it happened to me.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:00 PM
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I came across this news story recently: Fridley mother gets jail in daughter's diaper incident. A mother shaved her 12-year old daughter's head and made her run outside in a diaper because the daughter got a failing grade at school. Neighbors saw the incident and called police.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:25 PM
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There are so many sites that talk about this subject that cloud the truth. After reading many of them, I can tell most are fictional. However, I was disciplined with diapers from age 6 to 9 so I know it does really happen though not nearly as often as the sites say. My first time was at six, I was playing in the yard with other children and had to use the bathroom. Not wanting to stop long enough to go inside, I wet behind a tree. The youngest boy ran inside and told on me. I was called in and told to remove all my clothes. She then fetched some of the baby's cloth diapers and forced me onto the kitchen table. As I fought back, she had the older boys hold me down as she pinned me into my shame.

I was made to remain in just the diapers all day until I couldn't help but wet myself and then I was again stood before the others while they were told to point and call me a baby. That night, she put a rubber sheet on my bed and made me sleep in the still damp diapers. The next morning, she came and told me go take a bath while she set out my regular clothes.

After that day, every time I did something she didn't like, I was again put in diapers as a way of punishment. None of the other children were ever punished this way as she used me to threaten them the same treatment if they misbehaved. Though they did misbehave at times, she never diapered them which still puzzles me. This all really happened though I can't prove it. But I'm sure it does happen and still goes on since it happened to me.
First, i am sorry yiu ever had to put up with this. How bizarre, not only to do it to you, but to have the older boys hold you down.

Secomd, how were you able to see your mother again after that without taking a baseball bat to her head. I notice you never used the word "mother" so my guess is you dont have any respect for this nut. But still, I dont get how parents do this to their kids and dont meet their end that same night. There is only so mich abuse a person can take.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:34 PM
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Secomd, how were you able to see your mother again after that without taking a baseball bat to her head. I notice you never used the word "mother" so my guess is you dont have any respect for this nut. But still, I dont get how parents do this to their kids and dont meet their end that same night. There is only so mich abuse a person can take.
You...you must have had a very easy childhood.

A baseball bat to her head? Seriously?
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:16 PM
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You...you must have had a very easy childhood.

A baseball bat to her head? Seriously?
Seriously.

Ok, how about a nice shove from the top of the stairs? Or how about soaking good old mom in bed with gasoline and tossing a match?

Hey, my childhood was no picnic, but i wasnt held down by all my older siblings buck naked to the world while they wrapped a diaper on me and watched me piss myself for sport. I imagine that could cause a different kind of damage than, say washing ones mouth out with soap.

Sorry, child abuse does not play with me, and therefore the abusers deserve any and all punishment they get. I understsnd most children her age wouldnt smack their parents in the head with a bat. If they did, a lot less sexual abuse would go on.... So i' m not blaming her. I just think if a person went through something like what was described, i would take care of ol' mom... Even if i didnt kill her, i'd get her back. Vengeance would be mine! (if serious injury and/or death make you uncomfortable, figure out a way to humiliate the psychopath).

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Old 11-17-2012, 06:36 PM
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I'm embarrassed to admit this, but that happened to me too Cindy Marie, not the same way but I do have a memory of DD. My parents were a mix of crazy, inept and neglectful. A lot of people have it a lot worse and my parents were good material providers and they never sexually abused us, but me and my siblings all carry psychological scars from how we were raised. Two of us have decided never to have kids ourselves because we doubt we can break the cycle of neglect and shitty parenting. I really admire my older brother for being a good father, me and my other brother don't think we could ever pull it off.

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Old 11-17-2012, 07:00 PM
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Sad truth. My father did this to my brother when he accidently wet the bed at age 5 and, at age 9, had such an overfull bladder that he couldn't get to the bathroom on time.

The worst part about the age 9 one was that Tim's baseball coach (and our next-door-neighbor) came over to discuss the baseball schedule with Dad and Tim at the time. Tim quickly took a huge pillow and set it firmly on his lap. He didn't move the whole time the neighbor was there. We siblings insisted on hanging around in the room so that when the adults called for beers, Tim didn't have to get up and display his shame.

My dad could be very mean that way.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:25 PM
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I'm embarrassed to admit this, but that happened to me too Cindy Marie, not the same way but I do have a memory of DD. My parents were a mix of crazy, inept and neglectful. A lot of people have it a lot worse and my parents were good material providers and they never sexually abused us, but me and my siblings all carry psychological scars from how we were raised. Two of us have decided never to have kids ourselves because we doubt we can break the cycle of neglect and shitty parenting. I really admire my older brother for being a good father, me and my other brother don't think we could ever pull it off.
I used to feel the same way, Wes. I was raised with a combination of Neglect followed by strictness and psychological damaging abuse, then sent to foster homes as a teenager. I was lucky enough to have been adopted by a loving couple when I was almost 16, so I had 2 years in their home to see how to be a good parent.
I am very glad to have waited until later in life before I became a father. Although I never met my daughter until she was 8 years old and she has none of my DNA, I see my mission in life as being the best father I can be, to give her the best preparation to be a successful person.
I was never forced to wear a diaper, but my father's crazy second wife rubbed a shitty diaper in my face when her daughter crapped in it. I was about 12 years old at the time.

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Old 11-17-2012, 07:45 PM
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I used to feel the same way, Wes. I was raised with a combination of Neglect followed by strictness and psychological damaging abuse, then sent to foster homes as a teenager. I was lucky enough to have been adopted by a loving couple when I was almost 16, so I had 2 years in their home to see how to be a good parent.
I am very glad to have waited until later in life before I became a father. Although I never met my daughter until she was 8 years old and she has none of my DNA, I see my mission in life as being the best father I can be, to give her the best preparation to be a successful person.
I was never forced to wear a diaper, but my father's crazy second wife rubbed a shitty diaper in my face when her daughter crapped in it. I was about 12 years old at the time.
It is good you broke the cycle, I always find it heroic in a way when people overcome bad situations and still work on being a good person. It shows destructive cycles are not destiny and there are other ways out.

How old were you when you became a parent out of curiosity? I'm in my early 30s, and I'm thinking I'll probably be 40 before I'm ready.

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Old 11-18-2012, 01:17 AM
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So sorry I didn't explain things better. First off, I was an only child born out of wedlock. In order to keep from putting me up for adoption, my mother put me in foster care with a farming family who took in several boy borders. They had one child of their own, a girl about a year older than me. This woman is the one who use to diaper me in front of the other children including her daughter of whom she often sent to get the diapers for her. My mother never knew about my punishments both because I was threatened silence or I'd be diapered all the time and also because I was too embarrassed and ashamed to tell. There were many diaperings over those three years but the secret was kept in the household. The woman told the other children to keep quiet or they'd also be diapered.

I can only remember being sent to school in diapers one time but they were under my regular pants and no one noticed. She had loosened one side so I could go to the bathroom through a leg opening. Though I was sometimes sent outdoors in just a diaper, the home was secluded on the outskirts of town with neighbors far enough away not to know. The most humiliating time was once when I managed to sneak using the bathroom and was caught. She scolded me and told me I wasn't so smart as to get away without wearing wet diapers. She took me up stairs to the bedroom and left. When she returned, she had some of the baby's freshly changed wet diapers and changed me into them. I was so traumatized and shaking uncontrollably, I ended up wetting them again myself.

So back to the question, 'Is Diaper Discipline Real?' Horribly it is and it can be carried out in very cruel ways. I am now in my senior years and still have emotional night horrors. Oh yes. I did finally tell my mother what happened but not until I was 35 years old and the woman had died. My mother didn't believe me at first until I asked her, "Why in the world would I lie about something so humiliating? She replied, "If I had known, I would have taken you away from there."

Years later, I went into counseling and it took several more years to come to grips with my past. I was told the woman was sick and probably got some kind of sexual thrill in putting me in diapers. My body still shakes with flash backs and I still feel the rush of panic take over but not often now. Telling others of my past strangely seems to help though I don't understand why. Diaper discipline is not punishment. It is the destruction of a human soul. It destroys a childs self image and ability to become all that he or she could be. Sadly, the damage last a child's entire life.

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Old 11-18-2012, 09:35 AM
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I just finished reading the rest of the post and noticed I had failed to disclose that I am really a male using my female name for security. I was not trying to fool anyone nor does this mean my story isn't true. I was only trying to explain one aspect of what happened to me that contributed to the topic of diaper discipline. So I will finish and tell the rest so hopefully you all will have a better understand.

As I stated, I was born out of wedlock and placed in foster care. On visits with my mother, I was often told how she had wished for a girl but that it didn't mean she didn't love me. However, those words played a large part in another part of my development and events that took place in foster care.

I already told you of my diaperings between 6 and 9. Those events caused me to deeply wish I had been a girl so my mother would have kept me at home. I felt like I'd been discarded because I was a boy. After all, the other boarders were boys too. This caused me to study the daughter and other girls at school very closely for how they were different from boys. How they acted and how they looked, etc. It didn't take long before I was drawn to wishing I was one of them.

Then when I was around eight, I saw the foster mother put one of her daughter's dresses in a back room cabinet. I couldn't stop thinking how it would feel to be a girl and wear dresses. Late that night when I thought everyone was asleep, I slipped down stairs and tried the dress on. It felt amazing and made me feel like I'd really become a little girl. That didn't last but a few minutes before the lights came on and there stood the mother.

Asking what I was doing in the dress, I cried fearfully that I only wanted to see what it felt like. Quickly removing the dress, she grabbed my arm and dragged me back up stairs to her daughter's room. I was put in a pair of panties and a night gown and then dragged back to my bedroom while I begged for her to stop. Waking the other boys, she introduced me as a new boarder and that my name was Sissyboy. I was thern sent to bed to listen to their giggles and name calling until they fell asleep.

In the morning, she sent everyone down to breakfast but told me to remain until her return. My heart went into overdrive when she returned carrying a complete set of her daughter's clothes and told me to remove my gown. I fought her only to get spanked before being completely dressed as a girl including a ribbon in my hair. The item I remember most was a very fluffy white petticoat. I don't know why but it stirred something inside me that I still love to this day.

Anyway, I was kept dressed as a girl all day and had to endure the other boys torments and occasional flipping of my skirts. After things died down, I managed to sit on the back porch by myself. Looking down at my skirt, I began to feel I had really been changed into a girl and it felt strangely normal and calming. That night, the woman asked how I liked being a girl for a day and I lied, saying I didn't like it. However, ever since that day, I have been in love with wearing dresses and fantasizing my being a little girl. Years later, once I was living alone, I bought many girl's clothes and dressed up as often as I could. Sure, I felt something was wrong with me but the peace and calm I got while dressed made it seem so right.

Anyway, that is why I used the name Cindy Marie though I'm really a male. It still feels more like my real name to me and so I use it on the internet to hide my identity. So you see, I was a young boy at that foster house and having her daughter see me naked and put in diapers was even more humiliating. The worst part was she was becoming as cruel as her mother and often treatened to get me put in diapers whenever she wanted what few toys I had.

Again, I realize this is not the usual diaper discipline most children being put in diapers experienced. But the cruelty and destruction to the childs mind is the same. I can't think of any physical abuse that would be worst than that of the mind. The body heals but the mind is screwed up for life. So again, I say it is not just abuse. It is the destruction of a child and of his/her whole life.

Cindy Marie
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:33 PM
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Cindy Marie I forgot the term but that is not diaper discipline but forcing a male to be a female, somewhat different but equally as f-ed up.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:47 PM
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The word I was looking for was feminization.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:47 PM
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I don't know why but it stirred something inside me that I still love to this day.
Clearly it did.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:49 PM
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Cindy Marie, I am sorry you had such horrible experiences in your childhood. But don't be conflicted about being a boy versus a girl. You are you and that's okay by me.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:11 PM
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Thank you for being so understanding. It should go without saying that I wish my childhood had been different but it wasn't. As I stated before, diaper discipline can really mess a child's mind up for life and so can any form of shame and humiliation. Every child is different and some may not be effected as much as others. For me it really destroyed my identity and caused me so much confusion about who I was and what I was feeling. I was so traumatized that I went inside myself for protection against the unbearable shame and humiliation I was experiencing. The counselors told me that was called a 'disassociation reflex'. Years later when I reached puberty and my sexuality came into play, I developed a fetish for wearing diapers. They weren't the attraction though. It was the need to again feel shamed and humiliated. I still don't understand that and it makes me feel I must really be crazy. Several counselors have told me that it is a common reaction to what I'd gone through. Something about my trying to heal myself though I don't understand that either. As for my love of wearing dresses, I can only say it brings me a feeling of self acceptance. I've just never liked myself or of being a male, most likely because of everything in my childhood. So anyway, now you have read what diaper discipline can and does sometimes do to a child. I hope this both answers your question as to 'Does it really exist' and 'Is it child abuse'. I am proof that it does and is. I only wish there was some way to catch and stop adults who put a child through this horrible torture and have it done to them instead.

Thank you for taking the time to read about my experiences and I hope it helps spread a better understanding of why some people seem a bit crazier than others. For many, it isn't a choice but rather a reaction.

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