Too many liberals spoil the broth

[greenslime1951]

I've recently been given "warnings" for responding in kind when someone calls me an "idiot," "dumbass," "jerk, etc. Apparently it's OK for someone to call me those things but not OK for me to respond.

What's really going on here, of course, is that the SD is a little clique where the long-time denizens pat each other on the back, beat up on the newbies, and congratulate each other on how terminally wise they are. You are almost perfectly monolithic in your political and social ideologies: you are liberals through and through. Now, there's nothing inherently wrong with that, if you accept the premise that there may exist other valid points of view. But you don't.

Perhaps the most telling manifestation of your rigid orthodoxy is that you assume that because I've opposed liberal positions/Democrats in my posts here, I must be a conservative. Either-or. Black-white. That's how you people think.

(I hasten to add that there are some actual liberal thinkers here, and I wonder how you've avoided being dogpiled and/or hunted down and killed by the moderators.)

The moderators here love to justify their existence by moving threads, but I wish they would also evenly and fairly apply the rules they profess to so cherish. The old-timers get away with murder; the newbies get flamed and, if they respond in kind, get warnings (and are eventually banned, I presume).

It's kind of a shame, really, in that you are for the most part (if arrogant and rigidly orthodox), intelligent people, and if you welcomed other points of view into your circle instead of shouting them down, this would be a great forum for discussion rather than the politicized hatefest it actually is.

There's nothing here for me, and you can interpret that as a manifestation of my own peculiarities rather than any failings on your parts, if you wish. (Nobody thinks anything's their own fault.)

I do want to leave a parting note for those posters who have responded to me with acid and venom, making characterizations about me that were not only stupidly unwarranted, but also violated the boundaries of civil discourse and common decency:

Fuck you and the ideological horse you rode in on.

Oh, yes, I almost forgot: You citepanzees can go fuck yourself, too. I hope you arrive at an emergency room door in the midst of having a heart attack and the doctor on duty asks you for a citation that you're actually having one.

[beowulff]

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out...

[Jackmannii]

Originally Posted by greenslime1951

You citepanzees

This is pretty good, actually.

[Curiosity Kills Her]

I am so glad I didn't join in July.

[Chefguy]

Why, he has us pegged exactly! How he do dat?

[Crab Rangoon]

Well - you clearly can't figure out which forum is the correct one to post your threads in - this, for example, would be more appropriately place in the BBQ Pit - due to the angry tone and naughty language and such. Care to try again before the bitter end?

[MPB in Salt Lake]

Last night, the ideological horse that I purchased from Ann Romney (for ca$h, so she wouldn't need to declare the sale on her tax return) was badly injured in a hit-and-run, (the driver was eating a Chick-fil-A sandwich and kind of looked like an Orthodox Jew) and I just can't afford the vet bills to save him without selling off one of my Faberge Eggs, so I am asking the mods to allow me to open a donation thread in this my Hour of Need....

[Bozuit]

Originally Posted by Crab Rangoon

Well - you clearly can't figure out which forum is the correct one to post your threads in - this, for example, would be more appropriately place in the BBQ Pit - due to the angry tone and naughty language and such. Care to try again before the bitter end?

Obviously greenslime1951 wants to give the mods a chance to justify their existences.

Seriously though, I don't entirely disagree with the OP.

[pseudotriton ruber ruber]

Well, I hope the Mods won't need to do anything. He's announced he's leaving and he won't be back, so I guess he's dropping his "Free Fuck You w/Banning" card here. It would be efficient if things worked like that: issue a blatant "fuck you," do it outside of the Pit, and announce you're leaving the SD and not coming back. No need for Mod action at all--neat and clean virtual suicide, all in one post.

[An Arky]

I'm truly sorry your posts aren't as well thought out as you thought they were and more frequent than needed, greenslime1951. Please accept my humblest apologies.

[John Mace]

Buh-bye!

Reported for forum change.

[EmilyG]

Originally Posted by John Mace

Buh-bye!

Reported for forum change.

What?! How dare you beat up a newbie!

[Nzinga, Seated]

Originally Posted by Jackmannii

This is pretty good, actually.

Yes it is.

[An Arky]

So's a stopped clock, twice a day.

[miss elizabeth]

I think it's so funny this is in the wrong forum.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by miss elizabeth

I think it's so funny this is in the wrong forum.

Not to worry. The mods almost never issue warnings for that, so he's safe.

[pseudotriton ruber ruber]

Perhaps the most telling manifestation of your rigid orthodoxy is that you assume that because I've opposed liberal positions/Democrats in my posts here, I must be a conservative. Either-or. Black-white. That's how you people think.

This is (almost) my favorite part. He admits that he's uniformly opposed left-of-center positions (and in my view, pretty histrionically) but whose fault is it that a reader would conclude from that indication that he's conservative? The reader's, naturally. "You people=anyone with a functioning brain," I suppose.

[An Arky]

It's a deliberate hide behind mommy's skirt tactic.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by pseudotriton ruber ruber

This is (almost) my favorite part. He admits that he's uniformly opposed left-of-center positions (and in my view, pretty histrionically) but whose fault is it that a reader would conclude from that indication that he's conservative? The reader's, naturally. "You people=anyone with a functioning brain," I suppose.

Emphasis added. No, he didn't admit that.

[pseudotriton ruber ruber]

Originally Posted by John Mace

Emphasis added. No, he didn't admit that.

Yeah, he kind of did, in that he didn't modify his phrase in any way, such "because I've sometimes opposed..." or "often" or "usually." Without modification, it's reasonable to assume he was copping to taking a conservative position.

Instead of arguing the point semantically, though (it's a fairly dull point, and we've said what we have to say, pretty much) find me one post where he takes a liberal position, and I'll cheerfully confess to overstating my case.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by pseudotriton ruber ruber

Yeah, he kind of did, in that he didn't modify his phrase in any way, such "because I've sometimes opposed..." or "often" or "usually." Without modification, it's reasonable to assume he was copping to taking a conservative position.

I obviously disagree that it's "reasonable" to modify what someone says to make it sound foolish. Especially when there is foolishness aplenty in the rest of the post.

Instead of arguing the point semantically, though (it's a fairly dull point, and we've said what we have to say, pretty much) find me one post where he takes a liberal position, and I'll cheerfully confess to overstating my case.

No, thanks.

[twickster]

Moved IMHO --> the Pit, because how could I possibly resist?

[WarmNPrickly]

I've been reading his posts, and he is pretty boilerplate conservative. I've seen no waive ring from the straight up Republican rhetoric.

I do think he may have a case on the "dumbass" warning, but this isn't the appropriate forum for that.

[JackieLikesVariety]

I guess this is flouncing out.

is he gone?

[Chimera]

(smiles and waves goodbye)

Why yes, clearly the problem lies in everyone else on the face of the Earth. You're fine.

[Hentor the Barbarian]

Aw, darn it! Goodbye, you'll be hardly missed.

[Chefguy]

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

I guess this is flouncing out.

is he gone?

Conservatives don't flounce; they stride purposefully. Except perhaps for Lindsey Graham.

[El_Kabong]

I just want to congratulate the members of this board (well, all except greenslime1951, that is) on how terminally wise they are. Now lean on over here so I can pat you all on the back, you lovable lugs, ya.

And special thanks for completely agreeing with all my political and social viewpoints.

[Euphonious Polemic]

Ah, another conservative who says he's not a conservative, and is made because everyone accuses him of being a conservative, just because he continuously espouses conservative talking points.


Then, he gets mad, because everyone does not come around to his conservative point of view, simply because he uses his mad logic skilz to post in the wrong place and call everyone who disagrees with his ill-informed opinions a dumb-ass.

Finally, he decides to leave, primarily because he does not find that people agree with him, and instead require that he back up his ill-informed opinions.

I can't wait for the next one.

[GIGObuster]

♫ I hate every cite I see from citepan-A

To Citepanzee!

You will never make a monkey out of me!

[Gets to see the big statue of liberty Cite]


Oh my god! I was wrong!

It was repub talking points all along!

You’ve finally made a monkey…

Yes, we’ve finally made a monkey…

Yes, you’ve finally made a monkey out of me!!!!!


I love ya, mods! ♫

[manila]

Well done GIGObuster I am slow golf handclapping here honestly (my post is my cite!)

[Bosstone]

Originally Posted by Euphonious Polemic

Ah, another conservative who says he's not a conservative, and is made because everyone accuses him of being a conservative, just because he continuously espouses conservative talking points.


Then, he gets mad, because everyone does not come around to his conservative point of view, simply because he uses his mad logic skilz to post in the wrong place and call everyone who disagrees with his ill-informed opinions a dumb-ass.

Finally, he decides to leave, primarily because he does not find that people agree with him, and instead require that he back up his ill-informed opinions.

I can't wait for the next one.

Nice summation.

And christ, John, splitting hairs much?

[Gukumatz]

On a point of order, the "other guy" was also warned for calling the OP a dumbass. Of course, this doesn't compute with the OP's martyrdom complex so it's only logical for him to delicately omit completely lie about that in the OP. Parting "fuck you" (ding, another warning) aside, the pity here is that the OP's far more cogent and coherent than the usual brand of flame-out we see. (And I'm so nabbing citepanzee.)

Mark this one down as a pity.

ETA:

[Mod Hat]
FWIW, the OP has been issued a warning for the use of restricted language in the OP. It's an academic points since he's decided to leave, of course, but them's the rules.
[/Mod Hat]

[DKW]

-sigh-

Okay, you know what? I give up. I just freaking give up already. You want to let the door hit your ass on the way out, fine. You want to push the door open with your ass, fine. Hell, you want to do a freaking bongo routine on your ass with the door, knock yourself out.

No, don't worry about us. We have plenty of glass cleaner.

(Sheesh, not even two months. You couldn't just chill out in MPSIMS for a while?)

[Miller]

Word just came down from the technical staff here on the SDMB: you all can expect a roughly 12% increase in the speed of board functions, now that the OP's enormous martyr complex isn't choking up the bandwidth.

[JackieLikesVariety]

Originally Posted by Miller

Word just came down from the technical staff here on the SDMB: you all can expect a roughly 12% increase in the speed of board functions, now that the OP's enormous martyr complex isn't choking up the bandwidth.

HA! now that, there, made me snorkle...

[zoid]

I'm really gonna miss slimy.

Sure he was a douche. But dammit at least he was a smug, overconfident, ill-informed douche. We get far too little of that around here.

I have to admit though, I still don't understand why he couldn't grasp the simple concept of multiple forums or why he felt to injured when a thread was moved. I almost think he did it on purpose just to have something to complain about.

[Kenm]

Originally Posted by greenslime1951

Fuck you and the ideological horse you rode in on.

Cite?

[Chimera]

I admit to some mild entertainment at the thought of someone being outraged by their posts being moved from one forum to another and seeing it as some kind of conspiracy against them.

C'mon Mods. You can tell me. Is that the board equivalent of Diesel Therapy? I won't say anything. I promise.

Wait, no. Why are all my threads being constantly moved around all of a sudden? I was only asking a question!

[dropzone]

Originally Posted by Chimera

I was only asking a question!

No JAQing off in the Pit. People will laugh at your equipment.

[mkecane]

Originally Posted by GIGObuster

♫ I hate every cite I see from citepan-A

To Citepanzee!

You will never make a monkey out of me!

[Gets to see the big statue of liberty Cite]


Oh my god! I was wrong!

It was repub talking points all along!

You’ve finally made a monkey…

Yes, we’ve finally made a monkey…

Yes, you’ve finally made a monkey out of me!!!!!


I love ya, mods! ♫

That's great! It's the part you were born to play!

ETA: that's a good one by greenslime1951. Now that's going out on a high!

[Measure for Measure]

In case anyone is wondering, here's the thread that greeny was complaining about:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...=661677&page=4
Post 151 contains the insult to greeny.
Post 156 contains the responding insults by greeny.
Post 157 formally warns greeny.
Post 158 warns the person who launched a single insult against greeny.


It's hilarious how greeny calls for civility while at the same time being unable to restrain himself from launching personal attacks. Self awareness isn't one of his strong points.

[tomndebb]

Originally Posted by greenslime1951

I've recently been given "warnings" for responding in kind when someone calls me an "idiot," "dumbass," "jerk, etc. Apparently it's OK for someone to call me those things but not OK for me to respond.

This is an amazing display of selective reading--or outright lying: consider the source.

It was not OK for anyone to call you names. As has already been pointed out, that poster was also Warned for his behavior. In addition, we explicitly refrained from issuing multiple other Warnings in the same thread for the other posts in which you hurled insults on the grounds that we would treat all your abusive behavior as a single incident. Then you go into the wrong forum, (IMHO), and fraudulently claim that the person who insulted you was not Warned.
And, of course, you have been around long enough to know that the appropriate response to insults is to report them, not to respond in kind, so that lame excuse just makes you look like a whiner.

Neither failing to read for comprehension nor outright dishonesty are admired traits on this MB, so I doubt that we have lost anything but a PITA with your departure.

[tomndebb]

Originally Posted by greenslime1951

(Nobody thinks anything's their own fault.)

His post is his cite, I presume.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by greenslime1951

I've recently been given "warnings" for responding in kind when someone calls me an "idiot," "dumbass," "jerk, etc.

In their defense, you do seem like a pretty big dumbass.

[For You]

Fuck you and the ideological horse you rode in on.

Fine. Yours appears to have bought the farm, so the rest of us will continue to beat it mercilessly until boredom finally sets in and we move along to meaningful threads. Your pansy-ass lameness, disguised for your own benefit as martyrdom, is duly noted.

[zoid]

Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks slimy is lying piece of shit.

[panache45]

Damn, September can't come soon enough.

[HMS Irruncible]

Anybody else getting tired of these douchebags who come in and argue 99% of the conservative platform with their mouths frothing and eyes rolling, then when someone draws the obvious walks-like-a-duck, they try to do a double-reverse backflip "yeah but I support semi-decriminalization of huffing paint thinner in cases of rape and incest! You don't know me, you liberal stereotyper!" ?

This ought to be put under its own heading of trolling.

[Ethilrist]

Originally Posted by greenslime1951

It's kind of a shame, really, in that you are for the most part (if arrogant and rigidly orthodox), intelligent people...

You need to add a comma between "are" and "for", by the way.