Loach may not think this is worth an ATMB thread, but I do.
Could the administration/moderating team please explain to me why a joke made at the expense of the subject of the OP is an off-topic comment? If someone posts an article, and then someone later down the thread makes a joke about someone or something in that article, how is this an off-topic comment?
Thank you.
(In reference to this thread and Ellen Cherry’s moderator note, not warning)
Define “topic”. And “off”.
Define “define” and “and”.
reported
Define “reported”.
Define “”“” and “.”.
You guys are fucking killing me. I am laughing like a maniac here. But just to entertain you all:
off:
Adverb
Away from the place in question; to or at a distance: “the man ran off”.
Preposition
Moving away and often down from: “he rolled off the bed”.
Adjective
Characterized by someone performing or feeling worse than usual; unsatisfactory or inadequate: “having an off day”.
Noun
The half of the field toward which the batsman’s feet are pointed when standing to receive the ball.
Verb
Kill; murder: “he was hired to off her stalker”.
topic:
Noun
A matter dealt with in a text, discourse, or conversation; a subject.
That part of a sentence about which something is said, typically the first major constituent.
define:
Verb
State or describe exactly the nature, scope, or meaning of.
Give the meaning of (a word or phrase), esp. in a dictionary.
and:
Conjunction
Used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly: “bread and butter”.
Noun
A Boolean operator that gives the value one if and only if all the operands are one and otherwise has a value of zero.
reported:
Verb
Give a spoken or written account of something that one has observed, heard, done, or investigated.
Cover an event or subject as a journalist or a reporter.
"":
In English writing, quotation marks or inverted commas (informally referred to as quotes or speech marks)[1] are punctuation marks surrounding a quotation, direct speech, or a literal title or name. Quotation marks can also be used to indicate a different meaning of a word or phrase than the one typically associated with it and are often used to express irony.
.:
A period, also known as a full stop, in punctuation is a dot (.) that is at the end of a sentence. It shows that an idea has finished.
I gave the note because of the content, not because it was a joke. It used allusions to sex that appear denigrating to women when the topic was a wild rant by a sorority girl. That seemed off-topic to me.
I also referenced the misogyny thread, for the reason that its been the consensus (which I agree with) that comments of this sort, in aggregate, contribute to a minsogynst tone of the board. So, time to stop that kind of thing.
Ok, glad to know exactly where the boundary is between a misogynistic comment and a harmless one.
Thanks for the prompt reply.
Does this new board rule apply to all sex-related jokes, or just ones about women?
Also, are we going to have to be more careful about staying on topic in MPSIMS? Because I’m not sure that’s something that’s been a real problem in that forum before. MPSIMS is kind of the Calvinball of the SDMB.
It was a wild rant by a sorority girl generously peppered with the words “fuck” and “suck” and other sexually-derived abuses and highly suggestive that the role of a sorority girl is to cater to the preferences of a particular fraternity. The entire subject screams of gender-based stereotypes, including the major stereotypes about sororities and fraternities and their accepted sexual behaviors. The rant linked in the OP was barely a step away from “When you are in the company of X fraternity, you belong to them, so don’t even mention that you are aware that other male persons exist.” And that is a whisker away from “Your vaginas belong to X fraternity, so act like you know it, and act like you love it.”
So, in my view, any commentary along those lines, in that thread, is neither off-topic nor inappropriate. It might be anti-sorority, but it isn’t misogynistic. If anything, it’s the opposite.
Ummm…this is stupid. If there is some new policy, it needs to be announced in a conspicuous way, not buried in a multi-page thread. And if this new policy means what you apparently think it does, it’s a stupid policy.
The rant that inspired the thread uses phrases like “cunt punt”. And you think the replies are degrading to women? Think again.
Oh good fucking grief, Ellen. We have to stay on-topic in MPSIMS now, or else get spoken to? This is getting to be too much. And it’s not like I posted about the war in Afghanistan or my hatred of telemarketers in that thread.
Just for clarification, let me know which of these is acceptable:
Instead of saying what I did in that thread (“Should I *not *have a boner after reading that?”), what if I had said, “Does anyone else find angry women with potty mouths attractive?”
Instead of saying what I did, what if I had said, “I’ll be in muh bunk.”
What if I had prefaced my comment with “Off-topic, but…”
What if someone posts a picture of a firefighter in uniform and a woman or gay man responds with “Yum!”
What if someone posts a picture of a firefighter in uniform and a woman or gay man responds with “I’ll be in muh bunk.”
Posting off-topic in an MPSIMS thread about something non-sexual.
A woman posting off-topic in an MPSIMS thread about something sexual toward a man.
A gay man posting off-topic in an MPSIMS thread about something sexual toward a man.
A lesbian posting off-topic in an MPSIMS thread about something sexual toward a woman.
I just want to know what I’m being “reminded” of here. Should straight men on the SDMB just pretend we don’t have sexual attraction to women now, we check our balls when we sign in? And for the record, I was not actually aroused after reading that sorority email. It was a joke. Off-color, not off-topic.
I’m just reading this for the first time, but do you feel this is an appropriate and on-topic response to that sort of stereotyping?
Considering established precedent on this board? Hell yes. If you are going to change the rules, publish them somewhere other than buried in a multipage thread most posters haven’t read.
And don’t make stupid rules.
We didn’t make any new rules.
Then Ellen Cherry is way out of line.
What stereotyping?
And your basis for this complaint is what? I’m sure you are aware we have rules against being a jerk and hijacking threads.
The gender stereotypes in the email. It’s discussed in Acsenray’s post.
I am not Happy Lendervedder, but yes. How could it not be?
Regards.
Shodan