The negative revelations about Palin are coming so quick and heavy that I fear they’ll drown each other out. This one is especially stunning in its irony, though. I guess only her own kid deserves to be supported when she gets knocked up. Everyone else’s kid can sleep on the street. Way to care about the babies there, too. Typical anti-choice zealot. Palin opposes abortion even in the case of rape or incest, but once the kid is born, she couldn’t give a shit.
This is only hypocrisy if Palin seeks government funding for her grandchild. Unless, of course, you can provide a cite showing that she’s opposed to the teenage mother’s own family supporting the kid, which is all the Palins have said they’re going to do. Ready? Go.
We can say whatever we want about Palin here on the SDMB. However, [luckily for dems] the negatives are piling up quickly in the MSM.
Well…I do not see the irony. Palin’s daughter has the support of her family which is perfectly in line with social conservative dogma (assuming the prohibition on teenage, unmarried sex is broken).
If you do not have a stable family then tough luck. It is not for decent, god fearing families to pay to support some other loser’s trampy kids. Hard work and a few prayers sort everything out and if you can’t be bothered to do that then tough.
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I’m a tad confused about how Palin’s increasing funding from the $155,000 they were originally budgeted to the $3.9 million they actually received (which was still a three-fold increase from the previous year) is actually a slash in funding. Sure, they didn’t get the $5 million they wanted, but only in the most creative liberal math mind can this be seen as slashing funding.
But hey, keep trying.
The hypocrisy is in saying the government should be allowed to prevent them from terminating their pregnancies, but not in offering any support once the baby is delivered (or even before its delivered). The hypocrisy is that you are not allowed to say you care about babies before they’re born if you don’t care about them after they’re born.
Not every teenage mother has rich parents. Palin’s elitism is showing.
She went through and slashed like Jack the Ripper. What are you talking about? Maybe she didn’t slash everything she wanted to, but she sure as hell slashed.
I really hope McCain keeps this anvil on his ticket for the duration. What a godsend for Obama. That’s what happens when your vetting process consists of checking for a vagina and doing a Google search.
So, let’s count up Dio’s errors:
One, the funding wasn’t “slashed” – Covenant House received more funding in the budget signed by Palin than they had in the previous year. As pointed out, that’s an increase in funding, not a decrease.
Two, there is no “irony” here, no matter how you define the word. Dio, I’d suggest you get a dictionary and look it up.
Three, there is no hypocrisy here, either. Palin reduced the increase in funding for one organization that uses part of that money to help pregnant teenagers. It would be hypocritical if Palin said she wanted Covenant House to help her daugher. It would by hypocritical if Palin wanted the a government program to give her daughter assistance. She does neither, so there’s no hypocrisy. T
Four, there’s also no hypocrisy in her having a pro-life position and opposing government funding for helping children born out of wedlock (I’m pretty sure that Palin doesn’t take this view; it certainly isn’t something you can claim based on this one line-item veto). Opposing government aid for X is not the same thing as opposing X. Most of the time people want to see X done, they just don’t think it’s moral or efficient if the government does it.
As Governor, I assume that she has access to the best health care plan the state has to offer. And, since Bristol is still a minor, wouldn’t she still be covered under her mother’s health plan? Sounds like “government assistance” to me (at least for her, if not the grandchild).
Unfortunately, not every teenage mom has a mother who is governor of their home state.
Plus, as a woman of some means (since she’s probably well-paid for her position), she can have the access to child-care services for her grandchild that most poorer families don’t. And if she should become VP, that access will be practically unlimited.
If they tread carefully, this could be one of the Democrat’s best talking points for this campaign.
I agree with ArizonaTeach on this one.
I dinna think that word means what you think it means…
Most of which seem to be simply talking points and hype from the Obama faithful. I guess we’ll see if any of these ‘revelations’ get any real traction with, how did you put it? ‘The Fundy Racist’ vote…a.k.a. ‘voting citizens’.
Is she asking for government funding for her kid?
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She slashed the fuck out of the bill, item by item. She’s a hypocritical sociopath.
The irony is that she went through slashing support for these girls she considered to be trampy little sluts before she knew that it would happen to her own daughter. I don’t care who you are. That’s funny.
Oh, baloney. Of course it’s hypocritical. You either care about these babies or you don’t. If you have no problem watching them freeze and get sick and starve after their born, then you’re lying when you say you care about the “unborn.”
It’s also hypocritical to want to use state resources to police women’s wombs, but not feed the babies you want to force them to have.
The more we find out about this psychopath, the better I feel about November.
Irrelevant and elitist.
She didn’t slash a thing, and you’d know that if you did a little Google research yourself. In 2006, they received just over a million dollars in state funding. In 2007, Palin authorized $3.9 million. Explain to me the slashing. Now, a budget of $5 million was requested, but when I get a raise that’s less than I wanted, I don’t say my salary was slashed.
This makes a nice diversion from your mysogony (although you throw that in there for good measure), but it has the same result. Hypocritical liberal egg on hypocritical liberal face.
Oh, and Renob, we now have an entry for “irony” in the Dio dictionary along with his unique definitions of racism and feminism.
As pointed out, this was an increase of the state’s share of funding, not a cut. And it must be pointed out that private and federal funds are part of this mix.
The particular program cited, Passage House, served twelve moms-to-be and their newborns last year.
This won’t go anywhere.
Has Covenant House’s funding increased dramatically since Palin took office? Yes. Was there funding for this fiscal year more than last fiscal year? Yes. That is hardly “slashing the fuck” out of the bill. Cutting an increase isn’t a decrease.
So you know what’s on her mind, huh? Interesting. Even if this were true, it wouldn’t be irony. Again, I say that you need to use a dictionary to actually find out the meaning of words before you use them.
Again, you seem to think that if I believe something is a good thing then I have a obligation to support government funding for it. Sorry, you may think that forcing your neighbors to fund your preferences is morally OK, but I happen to think that if I support something, I should fund it voluntarily.
Opposing government funding for something does not necessarily mean you are against that thing if it was done with private money.
No, it’s really not. I think you need to look up “hypocritical” when you are looking up “irony.”
Don’t be surprised if this is cut and pasted into the Republican platform.
Yes, she has access to healthcare through her job. Would you mind pointing out where she’s legislating away anyone’s access to healthcare through their jobs?
This is one of the silliest things I’ve heard in a while.
I almost can’t believe I’m defending Sarah Palin, but Dio’s factual distortions drive me insane.
Explain to me how a 2,500% increase in funding is “slashing.”
Explain to me how there is any hypocrisy whatsoever in Palin’s actions. The fact she had a teenaged daughter knocked up doesn’t mean anything. As long as Palin and her daughter are keeping their hands out of the public coffer, it’s perfectly consistent with their fiscal philosophy. I don’t think she would have acted any differently had she known that at the time of the bill. Frankly, I’m surprised she gave budgeted $3.1 million their way.