Aceplace57, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[Guinastasia]

Maybe I’m overreacting a little, but your comments in the thread about Josh Duggar are absolutely disgusting:

@aceplace57

Josh was a young teen when this occurred. The father reported it to the police. Since then Josh has had no further known issues.

Its pretty silly to label a young teen a pedo for being curious about girls. What he did was wrong and illegal. But it in no way reflects on his behavior as an adult. He was a curious and horny teen with hormones running wild. Just like any other horny young boy who gets his first erection. Their dick gets hard when the wind blows.

He lived in a huge family. He would have been caught if he had gone into their bedrooms and continued touching the girls. AFAIK theres been no further incidents since it was reported to the police.

TLC must have known.

So apparently, Josh was just a young teen who was horny, not a predator! I mean, I guess he could have resorted to Rosie Palm, but hey, all those girls in the family, why not? And hey, they did go to the police, right? (Except, not.)

@aceplace57

I’ll show you mine if you show me yours was a common childhood game. Kids are inquisitive. Puberty stirs up a lot of mixed up feelings.

It’s true most young boys don’t fondle their sisters. But it does happen. Thankfully in most cases that’s all there is too it. Parents have to use their best judgement in correcting the problem.

I can’t believe people can’t see the difference in a young boy going through puberty and a sexually deviant adult. The whole point of parenting is to instruct and correct behavior. So that their kids grow up to be responsible adults.

Are people suggesting a young boy is already beyond help? Lets label a kid a pedo?

I know, we all played doctor when we were fourteen with five-year-olds. It’s natural!

@aceplace57

I don’t know for certain that Josh hasn’t touched a kid since he was caught and talked to the State police. But, so far there’s no indication that he has done anything but live an upstanding life as an adult.

Yep, he’s a real prince:

That’s not the only whiff of hypocrisy emanating from the repugnant story. Until Friday, Josh represented the Family Research Council, which claimed in a 1999 publication that “one of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets’ of a new sexual order,” according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

@aceplace57

Exercising personal religious beliefs does not make someone a bad person. These days it takes quite a bit of courage to openly endorse fundamental religious beliefs that have been held true for over two thousand years.

I don’t agree with much of what the Duggars follow. My wife and I sought out and attend a moderate church. Our congregation and deacons wouldn’t hire an ultra conservative pastor. But, I do respect people in religions that I don’t follow.

Yeah, you gotta have respect for a religious bigot who thinks it’s okay to discriminate against gays and women. Because, you know, that takes courage.

Go sit on a cactus, ace.

[Guinastasia]

Oh, and BTW, Christian fundamentalism is NOT two-thousand years old. It’s only a little over one-hundred years old.

[BlankSlate]

Ace is the place for the helpful…shit, little help here?

[joyfool]

God, this has been a long time coming. Think he’ll bother to show up?

[Guinastasia]

I should probably tell him he’s being Pitted.

[Smeghead]

@BlankSlate

Ace is the place for the helpful…shit, little help here?

Hard teen man?

[Ethilrist]

@BlankSlate

Ace is the place for the helpful…shit, little help here?

57 flavors?

[2gigch1]

@BlankSlate

Ace is the place for the helpful…shit, little help here?

Helpful hardon man?

[Mr.Nylock]

Aceplace is making an unpopular assertion, big deal - people do that all the time. It’s not an assertion I agree with; but if the assertion is totally misguided, there were no cites that I could see that anyone cared to share with the board relevant to that.

The Duggars and Josh’s behavior and attitudes seem pretty skeevy to me - but I don’t see Aceplace really doing anything wrong other than having an unpopular opinion.

[running_coach]

@Mr.Nylock

The Duggars and Josh’s behavior and attitudes seem pretty skeevy to me - but I don’t see Aceplace really doing anything wrong other than having an unpopular opinion.

Fondling a five year old goes way beyond skeevy.

[Morgenstern]

Good gawd Ace. Josh is a dumb fuck under any definition of the word. I wouldn’t trust him around an elementary school if he had a platoon of FBI agents watching him.

[Mr.Nylock]

@running_coach

Fondling a five year old goes way beyond skeevy.

I agree with that - I’m as grossed out sickened by this as anyone.

My point is that as far as I can tell Aceplace is defending sickening behavior, but is that in and of itself wrong? Maybe it is, but the Dope generally is a place where these issues can be discussed in a critical manner; Aceplace does not seem to be going against board norms in his posting, he is just taking a very unpopular view.

Is taking an unpopular view and trying to explore it and defend in a logical way a truly pit worthy offense? Perhaps it is, perhaps not YMMV.

[kayaker]

I just hope Ace’s sister turned out OK.

[Kobal2]

@Mr.Nylock

The Duggars and Josh’s behavior and attitudes seem pretty skeevy to me - but I don’t see Aceplace really doing anything wrong other than having an unpopular opinion.

Well, handwaving away a teenage kid fondling his sisters while they slept as a benign case of “you show me yours I’ll show you mine” between innocent kids could be construed, by some of our overly sensitive, bleeding heart readers as severely fucking fucked up.

[Telemark]

@Mr.Nylock

My point is that as far as I can tell Aceplace is defending sickening behavior, but is that in and of itself wrong?

Yes, it is.

[Lamar_Mundane]

Ace never even pinged my radar until about a year ago, but since then everything he posts is either stupdi, creepy, or straight out of right-wing radio.

[monstro]

Unpopular opinions are pitted all the time around here. This board has never been tolerant of all ideas, thoughts, and opinions equally. No one is saying ace should get banned over his opinion, fer cryin’ out loud.

[Procrustus]

@Lamar_Mundane

Ace never even pinged my radar until about a year ago, but since then everything he posts is either stupdi, creepy, or straight out of right-wing radio.

And often two out of three.

[SaharaTea]

The most frustrating part is that he remained stubbornly ignorant of the facts throughout much of the thread. He didn’t seem to comprehend that it was five victims, not just one. He kept characterizing it as a stupid mistake instead of an obvious pattern of abuse. He had no clue that the Duggars homeschool their kids or that the “counseling” Josh and his victims received was faith-based, victim blaming, and based on the teachings of a guy accused of sexually harassing many different women himself. I wondered whether ace was even reading the thread.

[boytyperanma]

@SaharaTea

I wondered whether ace was even reading the thread.

He never seems to respond to anything in threads just throws out his ignorant opinion. Clearly he reads some part of the threads as it’s not completely random where he replies. I wish he’d actually engage in some way.