Stalingrad
Der Untergang
Das Boat
The Bridge On the River Kwai
Patton
Longest Day
If The Searchers is a war movie, so is My Left Foot.
It almost goes without saying that these sorts of lists can be fun, and provoke a lot of enjoyable discussion, but in the end it’s all just a matter of opinion. I think both lists show an embarassing amount of Hollywood bias. One of the greatest war films ever made, by any criteria you care to name, is ‘Pretty Village, Pretty Flame’. Most of you will never have heard of it, let alone seen it, and yet it’s truly magnificent movie on every level. The original Serbian title was ‘Lepa sela lepo gore’, but you can get DVDs either dubbed or with English subtitles.
Seriously, a great movie. Brilliant script, very moving, strong characters, and still very relevant, since it deals with the war in Bosnia circa. 1994.
Brief introduction: we see two boys who are childhood friends, living in a small and somewhat idyllic village. They come from different ethnic backgrounds, but it doesn’t seem to matter, and they play together all the time. We see one of the memorable incidents from their childhood days, when a new tunnel was built to provide a much-wanted road link from one village to another - a happy civic occasion marked with a formal ceremony, speeches, brass band etc. All this is flashback.
We come back to the ‘present’ day (early 1990s) and the outbreak of war. The two boys, now grown men, find themselves on opposing sides in the conflict. The tunnel turns out to have great strategic importance. In one important plot strand, one of the childhood friends leads a group that ends up trapped inside the tunnel, surrounded by enemy forces. They have to work out how to survive, evade capture or death, and escape.
The title comes from a very poignant comment made by one of the soldiers, who has had the job of launching incendiary attacks on what was once a peaceful, happy, village. ‘A pretty village makes a pretty flame’.
OK, but what kind of movie is your right foot?
Three notes on Memphis Belle (1990) on the Channel 4 list:
[ul][li]There was a B-17 based in England that was the first U.S. heavy bomber to complete 25 missions. Aside from that, the film had nothing to do with the historical aircraft.[/li][li]The officers wore British-pattern hats. They spent all that money making this film, and they couldn’t buy American-style hats from Avirex/The Cockpit? They had do spend more money to make the wrong hats?[/li][li]The extra wearing the Ray Bans on the control tower bugs the hell out of me. His reactions were distracting, and he can’t act worth a damn.[/ul][/li]It’s an OK film, and I have it on DVD. But it was not worth the loss of a B-17.
They crashed a B-17 on purpose, or was it an accident like Paul Mantz and Flight of the Phoenix?
One of the French B-17s crashed. I don’t recall if it was airborne or taxiing, but I kind of think it was taxiing. I stand to be corrected. Everyone survived, but the aircraft was totally destroyed by fire.
A B-17 was belly-landed by Paul Mantz in Twelve O’Clock Hich. (Incidentally, I have two of the Robin Hood tobies. One is numbered. Got them out of the first batch. )
BTW, just noticed that there is an error in the list I linked to. The Web list shows The Good, the Bad and the Ugly at number 74, but the mag lists The Man Who Would be King in that position.
Some interesting choices by other posters here. I’ve somehow contrived to miss ever seeing Gallipoli but will remedy that in the near future. Definitely going to check out Bravo Two Zero, Sahara and A Very Long Engagement as well.
At this point, I guess I might as well list my top 15 personal favorites, in no particular order, of the war-related flicks I’ve seen; not claiming these are the really the best or necessarily most accurate militarily:
Paths of Glory
Das Boot
Bridge on the River Kwai
Black Hawk Down
Apocalypse Now (original release version)
Full Metal Jacket
Zulu
Der Untergang (Downfall)
The Train
Last of the Mohicans
Cross of Iron
A Bridge Too Far
Three Kings
The Beast
Kelly’s Heroes
I’d say Saving Private Ryan, Empire of the Sun, Breaker Morant, From Here to Eternity, Twelve O’Clock High, and The Pianist just miss out.
Yes, but I was referring to the accident filming Flight of the Phoenix where he was killed.
He wasn’t killed in the Twelve O’Clock High crash.
(There should be a :total nutcake: smiley.)
I don’t get The Third Man at number 80, because:
a) it is not a war movie, and
b) if it is a war movie, surely it should be a lot higher up the list. Do they really think Castle Keep is a better movie??
Any list that includes Saving Private Ryan and *Platoon *in the top ten is not worth reading the remaining 90.
Well, got any favorites in the genre? I wouldn’t mind hearing 'em.
No, he was killed in the Phoenix crash, nutcake.
Battle Of Britain made both lists. I’ve got it in the DVD player now.
(Picking out my next Irvin jacket. )
You ast ferit.
1: Titles I wouldn’t include on my own list
2: Titles I’ve never seen
3: Titles I can’t really think of as war movies
4: Titles I’d rank very high on my own list
No number: no personal objection to on such a list
AFRICAN QUEEN (1951): 1
ALAMO, THE (1960): 1
ALEXANDER NEVSKY (1938): 4
ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930): 4
APOCALYPSE NOW (1979)
BALLAD OF A SOLDIER (1959)
BATTLE OF ALGIERS, THE (1965): 4
BATTLE OF BRITAIN (1969)
BATTLEGROUND (1949)
BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN (1925): 4
BEAU GESTE (1939)
BEN-HUR (1959): 1, 3
BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES, THE (1946): 4
BIG PARADE (1925): 4
BIG RED ONE, THE (1980)
BLACK HAWK DOWN (2001): 1
BRAVEHEART (1995): 1
BREAKER MORANT (1980)
BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)
BRIDGE TOO FAR, A (1977)
BRIDGES AT TOKO-RI, THE (1954): 4
CASABLANCA (1942)
CASTLE KEEP (1969): 2
CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE (1936)
COLONEL REDL (1984): 2
CROSS OF IRON (1977)
DAS BOOT (1981)
DAWN PATROL, THE (1938)
DEER HUNTER, THE (1978)
DESERT FOX, THE (1951)
DESERT RATS, THE (1953)
DIRTY DOZEN, THE (1967)
DOWNFALL (2006)
DR. STRANGELOVE (1963): 4
DUCK SOUP (1933): 1
DUNKIRK (1958): 2
EL CID (1961): 2
FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS (2006): 4
FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT (1940): 4
FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953): 1
FULL METAL JACKET (1987): 4
GENERAL, THE (1926): 4
GETTYSBURG (1993): 1
GLORY (1989): 1
GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY, THE (1966)
GRAND ILLUSION (1937): 4
GREAT ESCAPE, THE (1963)
GUADALCANAL DIARY (1943): 4
GUNS OF NAVARONE, THE (1961)
HAIL THE CONQUERING HERO (1944): 4
HELL’S ANGELS (1930): 1
HENRY V (1944)
INFORMER, THE (1935): 4
KAGEMUSHA (1980): 1
LAST OF THE MOHICANS (1992): 1
LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
LETTERS FROM IWO (2006): 4
LIFE AND DEATH OF COLONEL BLIMP (1943): 4
LONGEST DAY, THE (1962)
MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, THE (1962): 1
MASH (1970)
MIDWAY (1976)
MINISTRY OF FEAR (1944)
NAPOLEON (1927)
NORTHWEST PASSAGE (1940)
NOTORIOUS (1946)
OPEN CITY (1945): 4
PATHS OF GLORY (1957): 4
PATTON (1970)
PLATOON (1986): 1
PORK CHOP HILL (1959)
RAN (1985): 1
RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP (1958)
SAHARA (1943)
SAVING PRIVATE RYAN (1998): 1
SCHINDLER’S LIST (1993): 1
SCIPIO AFRICANUS (1937): 2
SEA HAWK, THE (1940): 3
SEARCHERS, THE (1956): 3, 4
SERGEANT YORK (1941)
SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON (1949): 3
SOLDIER OF ORANGE (1977)
SPARTACUS (1960): 3
STALAG 17 (1953): 1
STALINGRAD (1992)
STORY OF G.I. JOE, THE (1945): 4
THEY DIED WITH THEIR BOOTS ON (1941)
THEY WERE EXPENDABLE (1945): 4
THIN RED LINE, THE (1988)
THIRD MAN (1949): 3
THIRTY SECONDS OVER TOKYO (1944): 4
TIN DRUM, THE (1979)
TO HELL AND BACK (1955)
TRAIN, THE (1965): 4
TWELVE O’CLOCK HIGH (1949): 4
ULZANA’S RAID (1972)
WALK IN THE SUN, A (1946)
WAR AND PEACE (1968): 4
WINGS (1927): 4
ZULU (1964)
Titles I’d add, off the top of my head
BEACH RED
DECISION BEFORE DAWN
FIXED BAYONETS
FOUR SONS
HELL AND HIGH WATER
HELL TO ETERNITY
IS PARIS BURNING?
NO MAN’S LAND
OVERLORD
STEEL HELMET, THE
THIS LAND IS MINE
WENT THE DAY WELL?
WHAT PRICE GLORY?
WOODEN CROSSES
::slapping El_Kabong lightly across the cheeks with my gloves::
Pistols at dawn, sir. Name your second.
A friend said she’d just watched it again. I said it’s crap. She’s like ‘Why? I liked it!’ She generally has little tolerance for bad films, especially when the historical aspects are bad. Weird.
[QUOTE=lissener]
You ast ferit.
. . .
Titles I’d add, off the top of my head
. . .
BLACK BOOK
MY SON JOHN
RESCUE DAWN
TIME TO LOVE AND A TIME TO DIE, A
I’ve seen 84 out of the hundred movies on the list, and while most of my favorites are on it, the rankings are poor. And like several others including the OP have said, quite a few of them shouldn’t even be considered war movies. This is more like a list of “pretty good movies with military battle scenes”.