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View Poll Results: Favorite/Best War/Military Movies – Semi Finals – Vote for Up To Five
This poll will close on 08-08-2015 at 09:00 AM
Saving Private Ryan 39 57.35%
Das Boot 30 44.12%
Patton 25 36.76%
Casablanca 19 27.94%
Full Metal Jacket 19 27.94%
The Bridge on the River Kwai 16 23.53%
Dr. Strangelove 16 23.53%
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World 16 23.53%
The Great Escape 15 22.06%
MASH 13 19.12%
Apocalypse Now 13 19.12%
Black Hawk Down 13 19.12%
Lawrence of Arabia 12 17.65%
Platoon 11 16.18%
All Quiet on the Western Front 9 13.24%
Stalag 17 9 13.24%
The Longest Day 9 13.24%
Paths of Glory 9 13.24%
Glory 9 13.24%
Schindler's List 9 13.24%
Twelve O'Clock High 7 10.29%
The Dirty Dozen 7 10.29%
The Best Years of Our Lives 5 7.35%
The Deer Hunter 2 2.94%
Enemy at the Gates 2 2.94%
Saving Private Ryan for me, too. Much as I love Casablanca, I just don’t consider it a “war movie,” deep down. It’s set during wartime, yes, but is much more about romance, politics and resistance to tyranny.
Dr. Strangelove would be a close second among the finalists.
Of course they’re war movies. What they aren’t are combat movies. People often conflate the two, but if War is your primary thematic element, just the fact that you don’t have soldiers shooting at each other doesn’t mean you aren’t a war film (though Strangelove even has that!).
Perhaps the greatest war movie (despite not making the cut here) is The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, which doesn’t have a single minute of combat footage but depicts the philosophical and psychological impact of war on soldiers, on a political and personal scale, like few movies ever made.
Also, I’ve never understood the love for Patton, which is IMHO a thoroughly mediocre and highly typical biopic. Cinematically, it’s big in scope without ever being particularly creative, and thematically, it doesn’t really offer a point-of-view that’s interesting or distinctive. Sure, it is buttressed by a single fantastic performance, but one great performance does not a great movie make.
IMO its when it was released (1970?) that is key. It was right in the middle of the Vietnam War and the counterculture. Itr appealed to the silent majoritys sense of patriotism. Of course it was kinda antiestablishment itself as Pattons biggest antagonist was the military establishment. It was rereleased as a double feature with MAS*H. It was a relationship that shouldnt have worked but it proved very popular.
Dr Strangelove wasn’t even set during a war unless you count the Cold War as a war. If so I deserve more VA benefits!
I agree about how actual combat is not needed for a war movie. 12 O’Clock High has very little combat and it is one of the best war movies ever made. Command Decision is also a very good movie dealing with much of the same issues with very little combat.