15-Year-Old Sony Trinitron Broken. Time for a Bravia?

Awesome Siam Sam, I bet you’ll really enjoy it.

Cicero, it seems you have your heart set on a Sony, but I can’t recommend the Sharp sets enough. One thing that’s been mentioned already in this thread is that there are very few manufacturers of the actual panels, but what hasn’t been mentioned is that Sharp is one of those manufacturers. Our set was made in Japan and came with a 3 year warranty, plus the price was so much better than anything else available with similar specs.

Also, don’t get drawn too much into comparing contrast ratios between brands, as I’ve heard that it can be wildly inaccurate due to manufacturers using different reference points to measure the contrast.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure the Sony is a fine TV, but they tend to be way overpriced.

TastesLikeBurning, I have nothing against Sharp- I don’t think I have ever owned one. Reason I like Sony was that I have now had five different brand DVD recorders within 12 months and Sony is the only one that hasn’t caused me grief (Admittedly it dost cost a lot more). That plus the Trinitron which is 15 years old and still going beautifully. BTW- I will be moving to Perth in about two weeks so you can advise me the best place to shop. :slight_smile:

Fair enough, I tend to be brand loyal as well (until something goes wrong).

Let me know when you’re looking and I’ll keep an eye out for specials.

Yeah, Sony’s sold me on their quality, too. That’s why we’re sticking with them.

The wife started to backpedal a bit, saying maybe we should wait three months after all like we originally planned, just to see what the price does. I said nothing doing, the time has come.

But my brother-in-law is a bit of a tech geek and uses this one particular shop where they know him. He’s going to check the price there and see if we can get it for less than 65,000 baht. No, it’s not some shady Third World back-alley deal. This is a regular shop, and it’s a real Bravia with a proper warranty and everything. But it seems this place often cuts their prices lower just to keep the stuff moving. Either way, we plan to get it this weekend.

BTW: Once the wife started coming around to the 40" while we were looking at them on Saturday, I tentatively mentioned the 46", and she said: “No!” :smiley:

I have a 46" XBR5 which I absolutely adore. When people say that there is no such thing as too big keep in mind on LCDs if you get too close to a really large one you can see some pixelization. Mine’s just about right for my room but I don’t know if I could have gone up to the 52"

We’ll be sitting about 6-1/2 feet away, about 2 meters. That shouldn’t be too close for the 40". Looking at it up close in the store, we didn’t notice any pixellation.

I’ll second this. My brother and I have two Samsung LCD panels that we bought at Circuit City’s going out of business sale. I love the interface and the quality. One got zapped by lightning, and Samsung sent a tech to the house with the board. Sony used to do that.

I used to be the head tech at a small chain in Kansas City (Brandsmart), and Sony used to be the best thing going. But their overall quality has been in a steady decline for years. It started at the bottom of the line and has worked it’s way up. I first noticed it on their cheaper stuff. Their cordless phones, for instance, are now made by the worst in the business - V-Tech. You can buy a cheap V-Tech phone, or spend three times as much for a Sony - and get a crap V-Tech phone. Then they started out-sourcing their TVs. The top of the line might still be made in Japan in a Sony factory, but their lower end is going to be made in China under contract.

Not 100% sure, but I believe Sony has a factory here in Thailand. This is where our set will probably be made.

My brother-in-law checked this one place he uses a lot, and the price there is 61,500 baht (US$1700). There’s a couple more places he’s going to check, too. Again, the place is legitimate; once we pay, they order it from Sony, and it’s got the full warranty and Sony contact numbers. So the price is getting cheaper and cheaper.

The deal is done. We’re getting it from that one shop. Sony Bravia Z Series, 40". Bt61,500 (US$1700). Will be delivered late tomorrow afternoon (Saturday afternoon).

The brother-in-law says we may want to think about upgrading our DVD player at some point, too. Not Blu-ray necessarily, but something designed to take advantage of the higher pixel count.

I agree with your brother-in-law. You should be able to find a DVD player for fifty bucks or less that will offer progressive scan (which will improve the quality of the picture, not as good as Blu-Ray, but quite a bit better) and will connect using an HDMI cable.

If you are buying anamorphic widescreen DVDs, your current DVD player will already provide your new TV with a signal to take advantage of the higher pixel count. The TV will automatically deinterlace and upconvert, so no need to upgrade unless you go all the way to Blu-Ray. Just be sure to tell the DVD player that you are using a widescreen TV (go into “setup” without a DVD in the player and select widescreen TV). Also, be sure you are connecting the player to the TV with component cables (red/green/blue), not composite cables (yellow/red/white).

Thanks. I looked on some of the boxes, and I don’t actually see the words “anamorphic widescreen,” although some of the older films say “widescreen.” Our DVD player is a 5-year-old Panasonic; I’ll be sure to check the setting for widescreen.

Chiming in for the Bravia here. Family has one Bravia (LCD) and a Toshiba (DLP) and the Toshiba had its bulb replaced (under warranty, still a pain though) in a year.

Bravia’s colors are more vibrant than any other LCD I’ve seen. They consistently get great reviews on CNET and the like. Brand loyalty be damned; they’re pricey, but great televisions.

They’ll say “Enhanced for widescreen TVs” or something similar.

You’ll be able to tell the difference when you’re watching. Assuming you are connected properly with the correct setup on both DVD player and TV, the picture will fill the screen (there may be narrow bars at the top and bottom if it’s very widescreen such as 2.35:1) if it’s anamorphic. If it’s not anamorphic, you’ll have black bars on all four sides. Almost every widescreen DVD is anamorphic nowadays.

This discussion of the assorted Star Wars transfers explains the anamorphic business well enough for consumer grade dorks like me

It’s here! We have it! Sony Bravia Z Series, 40". Delivered yesterday (Saturday). We love it already. The wife has definitely warmed up to it :D.

It’s also definitely caused a problem with the wall picture, by partially hiding it. We may opt for a new stand that’s somewhet lower, then we can move the picture up a bit, and that might work. But we’ll figure all of that out later. The wife now agrees the 40" was the right choice.

We inaugurated the new machine with the director’s cut of Woodstock, the Oscar winner for Best Documentary of 1970. Our Leonard Maltin guide pointed out that the skilled use of double and triple screens might be lost on a TV set, but it wasn’t on this baby. Problem is the director’s cut runs almost four hours, and we had to get up early today, so we watched only half. We usually hate watching movies only part way, have to watch them from beginning to end in one sitting, never understood how people could do otherwise, but this isn’t like it’s a murder mystery or anything. We had to get up early today because of Qingming. Not a Thai holiday, but rather a Chinese tradition – the wife is ethnic Chinese – in which the graves of ancestors are cleaned. Her family has no more graves, though, as the temple where everyone’s ashes and bone fragments were kept was renovated awhile back, and everyone was out. All the relatives were ceremoniously deposited in the Gulf of Thailand instead, buried at sea. But it’s still a feast day for any Chinese household, as well as an actual public holiday in China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau.

But I digress. Woodstock is a great first film to see on a big TV screen despite the lower quality of the filmmaking craft at the time. We still have to work and figure out the controls. The clock appeared onscreen for a while, and I could not make it go away. It eventually did after a long time, but I don’t know why. The “Video 1” designation up in the corner when we switched to DVD mode never went away; must be a way to make it disappear. But we’ll figure it out; must go through the manual.

We discussed DVD players with the two delivery guys. They said if we got a Blu-ray player, we should play ONLY Blu-ray discs in it, never a regular DVD. They said the head in these machines were very exact – I never thought of a DVD player as having a “head,” like in a tape player, but that’s the word they used – and that the quality could deteriorate if used on a Blu-ray. They recommended that if we did get another DVD player, it not be Blu-ray unless we really planned to watch a lot of Blu-ray discs. As for the Blu-ray players, they said they came in all prices but that the highest quality was this new one that Pioneer just came out with, costing 100,000 baht. :eek:!!!:eek: That’s US$2800! But their shop has actually already received an order for one from someone here in Thailand. They agreed that as far as DVD players of any type go, Pioneer is the best quality. That’s what we have now.

I’ve not been able to find a Widesceen anything in the DVD player’s Setup, though. It’s only 5 years old, so I figure it could be in there somewhere. I’ll have to look through it’s manual for it. But the movie last night looked good.

As for the old Trinitron, it’s going to find a new home with a colleague of the wife’s. This lady’s family just bought a second home to use on the weekends, as it’s close to the children’s tutoring schools. Thai children always seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in tuturing schools. But they don’t have a TV for it yet, and we’re giving them the Trinitron.

It’s working good. Went through the manual and figured out pretty much everything exept how to make the “Vidio 1” sign up in the top left corner disappear when switching to DVD. However, last night it suddenly did disappear, and I don’t know how I made it do so.

But I have a question: What’s the best way to clean the screen? On our old glass-front Trinitron and even our LCD-screen computer monitor, I’ve used a smidgen of Windex and one of those specially made soft cloths for camera lenses and the like. But I want to make sure I don’t screw up the screen on the Bravia. Any tips?

Siam Sam, I’d be surprised if there isn’t something in the manual telling you what to use to clean the screen. My past experience has been that it’s recommended to not use anything other than a very mild warm soapy water with a non-abrasive cloth.

Is there a button labeled “display” on the remote?

I strongly recommend that you get yourself some component cables to connect your DVD player to the TV rather the composite cables you’re using now.