1966 MGB -- The Countdown

It all started innocently enough. I wanted a replica of my first car, an hand-me-down 1966 MGB my mom bought new. And there was one on eBay for a few hundred dollars. The plan was to get it running, spray it with a coat of paint, and slowly restore it while I enjoyed driving it.

The best laid plans of mice and men aft gang agley…

I knew the floorboards would have to be replaced. But once the car was stripped it turned out to need new sills (important assemblies that provide strength to the monocoque structure), a new main crossmember, new longitudinal members, more sheet metal… So instead of a ‘rolling restoration’ it became a ‘ground up’ restoration.

In April 2003 it went to a body shop run by a guy named Antonio. ‘It will take about six weeks.’ Six weeks later he said, ‘Still working on it. Another six weeks.’ And then Antonio’s wife had an aneurism and nearly died. I can cut the guy some slack. A couple of months later Antonio told me, ‘About another six weeks.’ In October I was laid off from my job and moved to Northern Washington. I thought maybe Anotonio needed some incentive to finish the car, so I paid him in full. You know, if someone pays me for something I’ll be sure it gets done! So I’m naïve. From my northern abode I called Antonio. ‘A couple more weeks,’ he’d tell me. Every couple of weeks I’d call him and it would always be ‘About two more weeks.’ Oh, the pain.

In May of 2005 I went down to SoCal and dropped in on Antonio. I brought two friends with me. I’m not a small guy, and I was the smallest of the three of us. It was all quite innocent, though my friends pretty much stood around and glowered. Antonio had painted the body by this time. Miraculously, he finished the car a month later. It’s evident he hurried at the end. The car looks very, very nice; but it’s not a concourse winner.

Not that it would be anyway. Someone had cut holes in the rear bulkhead for speakers. I didn’t know if I’d put speakers back there, so I left them open. (I’ve since decided not to install speakers there.) And it’s been converted to negative earth. The engine head needed to be replaced, so I got an alloy head for it. It looks original, but I’m sure a judge would notice. And it now has a Pertronix ignition. But overall it’s ‘original’. And I’m not planning on showing it off in beauty pageants anyway. It’s meant for driving. One detail I like though: The engine number has an ‘R’ in it, meaning it’s meant for an overdrive transmission. I’ve replaced the transmission that came with the car with an overdrive-equipped one.

So. It’s out of Antonio’s clutches. Now it goes to John The MG-T-Series Hobbyist. The car was kept at his friend Howard’s machine shop. I started getting calls from Howard complaining about the car. He needed the space to conduct his business. Of course I couldn’t tell John that Howard was complaining; they’re friends and Howard didn’t want to piss him off. Howard said John hadn’t touched the car since November (2005). The pain! The pain!

Finally, after moving to SoCal for my job, I found an actual restoration guy, Chris. He used to work for Britalia, a shop that works on British and Italian cars. He built a shop behind his house and went into business for himself. He charges more than John, but half what Britalia would have charged. Only his shop wasn’t done. I had to wait a month for his floor to be finished, the wiring to be done, etc. I finally got the car to him in September.

He’s done more in three months than John did in more than a year. And now the car is nearing completion. Chris says he might get the car done by Christmas. Or it may take him until the first part of January. But at this stage the countdown clock is running. Paul The Upholstery Guy should drop off the seats and interior panels in a couple of weeks. Chris has the carpet kit (including the non-original trunk kit, which will cover up those speaker holes) and top, as well as all of the fiddly bits that go into a car. The new performance muffler isn’t quite the right shape, so he’ll have to get creative. Moss Motors don’t have windscreens that fit, so he’s ordered one from Victoria British. It should arrive Monday or Tuesday. I hope it fits. The original is pretty well pitted, and has a couple of arcs scratched in it – and changing out the glass isn’t as simple a job as it is with modern cars. The frame looks great, by the way. It’s been polished and hard anodised as it was when it was new.

Here are some photos of the work in progress.

So, any day now you will be owned by an antique British automobile!

Congratulations.

Tris

Ah Johnny, I think cylinders 1 and 2 are running lean.
:smiley:
Looks good, when do we go for a ride?

Wonderful job on the resoration, Johnny. I’ve always been a fan of the MG-B, and once I got one, I realized how much work it was to make one look nice, so I gave up. One of these years…

Brendon

Wow! The first thread I read of yours was about “another 6 weeks.”
I’m so happy for you. Will you drive it up when you move back to Birch Bay?

Wow. Those pictures are sort of like porn for auto-geeks. That thing doesn’t have a Lucas electrical system, would it?

I can’t take any credit for the restoration. I’ll I’ve done is write checks. I was going to help out on some of the easier bits (e.g., stripping and painting the engine accessories) only I moved out of state.

If I had to do it again I’d get one already restored.

Most likely. I’ll move everything else up, and then fly back for the car.

Yep. Except for the Pertronix ignition. I joke about Lucas as much as anyone; but they’re really not that bad. My first '66 never had any electrical problems. One of the '77s had a fault in the fan relay that turned it on randomly and ran down the battery. the other '77 never had any problems. They key is that one needs to keep the smoke contained within the closed system.

Incidentally, the engine isn’t that bright red. It’s actually a deep blood red, but the flash on the camera lightens it a bit.

Ha! i just knew I should have put the other carb on before I snapped the photo! We can go for a ride next time we meet up. How’s your '67 running? Can we have a rally with only two cars?

The first car I remember my Dad owning was a 69 MG. God we miss that car!

Congrats on almost getting it finished, finally. Any chance of putting in a roll bar? (When the MG was rear ended, my dad came up out of the seat belt and conked his head on the roll bar. Only thing that saved him.)

That would be a negative. When I was just out of high school I wanted a roll bar. But even the ‘rubber-bumper’ cars never rolled enough to begin to tip over. I think a roll bar would spoil the looks. I did, however, get lap belts. My first one didn’t have them.

I thought about going for the Michelotti hood (convertible top) frame from the later cars. It’s much more handy than the scissors-type folding frame on the Mk.Is, and certainly easier to use than the ‘build-it-yourself’ frame. In the end I opted for the BIY frame because the car looks better with it. And it only takes a couple of minutes to put it up in case of rain. Sure I’ll get a little wet; but it’s all part of vintage motoring, eh?

The first car i remember my dad owning was a Triumph Herald. I don’t know what year. I was going to buy a Spitfire a couple of years ago to use until the MG was done. But I found a '63 Herald 1200 Convertible instead. I didn’t buy it because of the ‘dad connection’, but it’s kind of neat having that thread. I vacillate between wanting to restore it and wanting to sell it. When I’m here I think I should sell it. When I’m home and driving it I want to restore it and keep it.

Of course having ‘dad’s car’ and ‘mom’s car’, I’m thinking I should find a dark blue two-door 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 7-Litre with the police package and bucket seats (another of dad’s cars). I was chatting with my BIL at Thanksgiving and he said, ‘That’s funny. Your sister wants one too.’ It would be fun to have that car, since I enjoyed it so much when I was a kid. (When I was a ‘good boy’ dad would let me sit in the ‘treat seat’ – the console between the front seats. And sometimes we’d ‘go sporty’, which meant opening up all of the windows and driving fast. Sometimes he’d let me sit in his lap and steer. Life was simpler when I was little.) Only A) I don’t have the resources for yet another classic car; B) I don’t have the space for another car; and C) I’ll be too busy driving the MG or the Triumph to drive the Ford.

The first car that I ever really wanted was a green MGB convertible that was parked, for sale, across the street from my high school. I never got it, which was disappointing at the time, but probably for the best. I’ve pretty much resigned myself to never having an MG or Miata–cars like that just are not built for 6’1" tall men. :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t know about the Miata, but you might find this interesting (emphasis mine):

I’m a bit over 6’1" and I’ve owned a Triumph and an A-H Sprite. Had no trouble w/ space in either.

I envy you Johnny, I know it must have been an expensive rebuild, but I’m sure you’ll think it was worth every penny once you get to drive it.

Those pics make me miss my 62 MGA. It’s been a while since my eyes have feasted on a Stromberg-Carlson Carburetor.

As mentioned in most of Johnny’s MG threads, I owned a 63 Midget (which is smaller than Johnny’s MGB). I’m 6’1" and didn’t have a problem at all. In fact, it had more elbow room than my 1980 Civic.

You just have to get used to driving with your ass 8 inches from the ground.
Johnny: Those pictures bring back memories of swapping the transmission on my Midget.

The car looks nice. When you get it home to Washington I want to drive down from BC and check it out. I’ll buy you a 30 shot espresso as a car warming gift.

Johnny, when the MG gets on the road and you drive it up to Washington, you have to go out of your way and come through Yakima. I want to see it!

mr.stretch is putting the 3rd dash fascia in the Spitfire this week–he broke the last fascia trying to fix the gas guage. This time we went with birds eye maple–it’s beautiful. You bring the MG by and you’ll get to see the Spitfire and the Renown in person!

Lucas electrics are made in hell. A product of the devil. PRODUCT OF THE DEVIL I say!

/former owner of 1978 MGB

That’s damn nice. Maybe not 100% Concours, but a sight nicer than most any you see on the road.

Me too. And the rear-end pot, and the engine… :stuck_out_tongue:

Looks sweet though. Insurance Guy sez: Hire a professional appraiser for the car as soon as you get it back.

I’ve contacted an insurance agent that deals with Haggarty (sp?). They insure classic cars.