I’m in the middle of painting a spare bedroom. The room was a light light light shade of pink (basically white) and it had a light colored stenciled (paint) boarder around the top. I’m painting the room a fairly bright shade of orange. I’ve put on my first coat and the boarder shows thorugh. I’m about 70% sure the second coat will cover it, but I’d hate to have to have to put on a third coat. My question is, if I just take my roller and roll a coat over the boarder and then go back and put a full coat on an hour or two (or a day) later, will that work? Or will it look like crap?
By the way, it’s a Behr interior satin enamel paint.
I have found with rolling that you can partially overcoat selective parts fine and it blends in well- more worried about your choice of color - bright orange?
What’s the base paint for your bright orange? Base paints are the cans of paint that they add colorant to. For Behr they are Ultra Pure White, Pastel Base, Accent Base and Deep Base (going from the lightest colors to the darkest). As a general rule darker colors have more trouble covering prior coats than light colors and dark reds are the worst of all. I once had to apply five to seven coats of Behr’s Deep Garnet and that was on top of a tinted primer. So if your can says Deep Base on it you may have to resign yourself to three coats anyway.
But having said all that I will agree with scm1001 that so long as you use the same application technique (rollers in your case) you shouldn’t have a problem with an extra coat on selective areas.
In my experience, Behr paint is not exactly the world’s best at hiding whatever’s underneath. Adding to the problem, dark colors are a challenge to have come out well. They really need a sign next to the stronger colors warning people of what they’re about to get into - painting a light colored wall a deep color in one or two coats is just impossible.
Firing up the Wayback Machine, or at least the A Couple Days Ago Machine, you should have used one coat of Kilz or Bin on the entire wall as a stain-blocking primer to hide the stenciling, and a medium orange paint as a color primer - probably two coats of that, followed by two coats of the final orange. Cross your fingers that it looks OK. I did a wall once in a deep red, and with a tinted primer, we wound up needing four coats of the finish color before it was uniform and not blotchy.
Hitting just part of a wall (e.g. the stenciling) will leave a permanent lap mark that will never go away.
I’ve put an extra coat of paint on selected areas, and haven’t been able to tell where after it’s all dry.
Primer. I love the primer, though. I now understand the beauty of primer. It really does serve a purpose.
What’s the advantage of using a “medium orange paint as a color primer”?
The problem with very dark paints is that they require a base that is essentially a clear paint. Behr’s Deep Base looks milky white in the can but if you take a bit out and let it dry, it dries clear. The actual coverage is left up to whatever colorant they add to the can, so what you end up with is a very thin paint - thin in terms of coverage.
While I’ve never tried a “color primer” as you suggest, it seems to me that you’re still left with the final coats (bright orange in this case) still trying to cover a different color paint. If you’re looking at four coats of paint anyway, why not just go with four coats of the color you want?
And now a word about primers. The main advantage of primers is that they adhere to just about everything and just about everything adheres to them. They also block stains, and help to hide previous coa
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And now a word about primers. The main advantage of primers is that they adhere to just about everything and just about everything adheres to them. They also block stains, and help to hide previous coats of paint, but the main reason you want to use a primer is to make sure the paint itself sticks.
Let me just go on record right away as saying that this isn’t a deep/dark color. One coat covered covered up the white just fine (it still needs a second coat, but I don’t see an issue with it needing any more then that on the white). It’s really just the stenciling around the top. I shoulda listened to the girl at home depot. She suggested I just get a can of Kilz Spray Primer and spray it white before I start.
If anyone wants to see the color, you can see it on Behr’s website. It’s 210b-5 Tangerine Dream. Also, it’s an accent base.
But let me re-iterate, everything looks fine, except the boarder.
Well, I’m off to go put a coat over the boarder.
Here is a thread I started a while back on painting, primers and coverage.
There are some interesting comments on Behr paint.
A coat of paint on the border may work, but if you put a coat of paint on your boarder, he may object, and it certainly won’t do him any good.
I didn’t think that looked right, I have schnauzers, they didn’t like being painted last time I tried either.
So, I just put a second coat on the whole thing. So far it looks okay, but I’ll know for sure in the morning.
God, I hate painting.
One observation is that stenciled borders, be they obnoxious, collies, or what have you, represent a step off the base wall plane, and unless you sand or skim coat, the image is still likely to be visible after recoating, particularly when the wall is viewed at a shallow angle.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about the benefits of primers both here and in the thread Rick linked to. In fact I began to wonder if I wasn’t the one confused so I went by the Wikipedia article on primers and found this:
Nothing about using primer for coverage per se. It is true that a *secondary *benefit of using a primer is that it does have some colorant in it, and so it will help with the actual paint coverage, but only if it is more or less the same color as the paint. Since almost all primer is white and most final colors are light or pastels, this usually works to your advantage. However if you have a dark colored wall and you want to paint it in a different dark color, using a primer, even a tinted primer, will work against you.
Man, I’ve had some sucky landlords, but at least they didn’t try to paint over me.
pssssst: ascenray. I don’t think anyone gets us.
Do you think Joey P was talking about boarder collies?