2015-16 Barclays Premier League Thread

Rodgers and Advocaat out, Mourinho going batshit crazy. An interesting weekend and a fun one for a Southampton fan (but it’s not enough that big clubs keep buying all our good players, they’ll be sniping our manager next!).

Spurs fans’ constant obsession with Arsenal is quite amusing. The only times Arsenal fans think of Spurs are derby days and the annual St. Totteringham’s Day observance. :wink:

Arsenal 3-0 Manchester United.

Ignoring the demonstrably false post by the gooner before you–

Arsenal really does seem to have a shot at taking the league this year. It hurts me to say it, but your guys look legit and with Chelsea being… inexplicable seems to be the right word, I think there is a chance. City are still the favorites in my mind, but stranger things have happened and they don’t look ready to walk away with it.

Wow that would suck.

Sure, if Arsenal played like that every week they’d win the league by 20 points (against current opposition, including City). Consistency has been their problem. One good performance might win you a cup, but not a league.

I’m not writing off United yet. There is more hope than at this time last season, and last season it almost looked like we were going to challenge down the stretch (before fading away again). Just wasn’t their day yesterday. If we put away that chance just before half-time I think a draw was on the cards.

At least I can console myself by laughing at Chelsea. Has Mourinho lost the dressing room?

It’s certainly looking like it. From the outside, it’s difficult to know how much the Eva Carneiro incident has to do with it, but he faced universal criticism for it and it served as another clear example of (despite being an excellent manager) what a colossal *sshole he is as a person.

The pattern is following that of his previous stints at Inter Milan and Real Madrid where the atmosphere at the clubs became toxic due to his egotistical and, frankly, unpleasant win-at-all-costs mentality.

As a fan of Arsene Wenger, at whom Mourinho has aimed boorish insults (“voyeur”, “specialist in failure” etc) at any given opportunity, it is impossible for me to look at Mourinho’s predicament with anything other than a satisfying schadenfreude.

As for who the champions will be this season, I think there were only four teams in it: Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd.

Chelsea, I think, are surely out of it now. No team with their current points tally at this stage of the season has finished above 5th, so they’ve got a fight on their hands just to get a 4th place Champions League play-off spot.

While improved from last season, Manchester United don’t quite look like a title-winning side to me. So I think it’s going to be between Man City and Arsenal and, at this stage of the season, it looks as if it could go either way.

This is unquestionably true.

Liverpool seem fairly likely to sign Klopp to replace Rodgers. This should make Liverpool fans pretty happy. Is there any chance that he can do anything real with the club at this stage of the season? I know it’s only October, but the transfer window is closed and there won’t be much time for training new ideas.

How much money do you want to bet on all English teams falling in the Group stages of the CL?

I remember the years when you were guaranteed to have have three SF from England

Klopp is a committed christian - no chance he pitches up at Barad-dur FC with its fanbase of orcs and goblins.

A second tier guy is more probable - recall Rogers nearly said no to them last time out and the club was in a better position then. Saying that, I could see Ancelotti go there for the lulz - he’s got nothing left to prove, so why not try his hand at some well-renumerated turd polishing for a bit?

It’s certainly not looking good this season so far. If Premier League clubs continue to perform badly into next season, then the Italian league club rankings will overtake the English league’s, and they will take one of the English clubs’ four Champions League places.

I think Klopp is first choice, but there’s no guarantees he’ll want to come to a team that is, at best, 5th in the Premier League and out of Champions League football. He’s been competing with one of the top two teams in Germany in recent years and winning titles, so he might want to wait it out for a few months until one of the really top European clubs come calling.

Carlo Ancelotti’s a possibility, but he’s recently had back surgery and may not be ready to return to the rigours of managerial football just yet. Dutchmen Frank de Boer and Ronald Koeman are also distinct possibilities.

This is not run-of-the-mill Liverpool bashing. Like.

Mais oui. Of course I have no doubt whatsoever that your statement is indisputably true, but could you provide details?

I took my 2 year old son on his first visit to the Spurs pub yesterday. He wasn’t exactly riveted by the game, but he clapped when we scored and seemed to quite like getting french fries and cookies for breakfast, so I think we can count him as a new Yiddo.

Indeed. Everton supporter, are we?

Which, as far as I know, is an “observance” completely unique in all of sport, suggesting that the obsession isn’t all that one-sided.

Speaking of derby days…

Don’t feed the scum. They wouldn’t say it if they didn’t care. We don’t care about…i don’t know West Ham, Chelsea, Palace, take your pick. We don’t make a point of it because we actually don’t care.

All the Spurs fans I know care a lot about Chelski. Chicago Spurs FB page has a running debate about whether we would root for Chelsea if we needed them to win on the last day of the season in order to win the title for Spurs. Of course, all agree that it would be unacceptable to root for Le Arse even under such conditions. Beating Arsenal is always the best, but beating Chelsea is much better than beating one of the rich clubs from the North.

The other London rivalries are probably most important to those actually in London, but I do note that one can find the chant “We Hate West Ham” (with written lyrics – all four words – thoughtfully provided!) prominently listed on a site cataloging Spurs chants.

Here is an interesting article about London rivalries; based on the comments it seems that supporters of all teams involved found it accurate. It is a bit dated, though, talking about how Spurs are in danger of being passed by Chelsea for the role of London’s second-biggest club.:frowning:

In truth, I hate ManUre and Chelsewhatever rather more than the Hotspuds. The Tottenham rivalry is more historical than anything.

I chose the teams I chose for a reason. I was too subtle I guess.

History is everything! Just because the San Francisco Giants were terrible for a couple decades doesn’t mean that Dodgers fans stopped hating them. Of course they are good again so it’s hard to remember but history is important. You only get one real rival, and you don’t get to change it just cause.