2016 Bernie Sanders (D-VT) campaign for POTUS thread

Sure if you take the fastest private jet available there at 711mph and fly a straight line rather than a following a typical flight course it’s still over 6 hours of time in the air.

Only 4 of those jets have a top speed higher than an A-380’s btw just so people understand how fast the big boys can go.

Yeah, nope, not anymore. Those planes are capable of mach 0.95 but they are typically flown slower nowadays because of the high cost of fuel, a reduction to mach 0.8 saves a huge amount of fuel. A private cessna citation or gulfstream can cruise at mach 0.93 if the pilot is told to not worry about fuel consumption. He’ll get there faster on a private jet for sure.

I really hope he doesn’t hop on a Cessna and tell the pilot not to worry about fuel as none of the Cessna’s have the range.

Looking like he needs a Gulfstream, he can’t take the Citation X so he’s down to 704mph

But really what time is Bernie’s event in Rome?

No idea but this is the event he is speaking at:

http://www.pass.va/content/scienzesociali/en/events/2014-18/centesimus_annus.html

And this is the program: It does list Bernie Sanders under “other participants” with no time listed. He could be speaking in the morning Saturday 16th April which is still Friday 15th April in US time.

http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

It still boggles me that this would mean anything to anyone as far as voting is concerned, any more than Cruz standing around making matzos.

“I’m a man of the Jews!”

“I’m a man of the Catholics!”

Really?

Nothing says “man of the people” like jetting off to Rome to meet the Pope! And don’t spare the horses, my good man. Lol

It’s been made pretty clear he’s not actually meetin the Pope.

The Pope is the official head of the worldwide Catholic Church! How could it not be meaningful to Catholics? There is nothing comparable in Judaism.

747s and A-380s both have a cruising speed around 560 mph.

Private jets like the ones in the link by Lord Feldon can reach 670 mph or greater.

I’ve always liked Krugman. I think he quite nicely sums up the problem with Sanders.

Well, Robert Reich disagrees with him.

Considering that the Reich article was 2-1/2 months ago, and Krugman’s was yesterday, I’d say you’re being disingenuous again.

He did comment on the article directly. Calm your jets.

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I like Reich and I get his angle. But Krugman doesn’t have to prove his economic or his progressive credentials to anyone, and I think he makes pretty good arguments against Bernie.

That being said, I think some of the pro-Clinton rage against Bernie is also over the top. I would support the Bernster if he somehow ended up with the nomination; I just don’t believe he’s the best guy to run the giant bureaucracy that is the federal government and cut deals in congress. And contrary to what everyone who supporters Bernie believes, ultimately, being president is about cutting deals. If Bernie thinks he can just trash talk the banks that own 68 percent of all accounts in this country and run a country on that premise alone, he’s sadly mistake and he’ll be a one-termer. And not only that, he’ll set the progressive movement back a good decade if not more.

Carter’s bull-headed idealism gave us the Reagan revolution. And we’re still living with it 40 years later. I don’t want future generations of Americans to be living with the Cruz revolution 40 years from now.

Except in his rebuttal he doesn’t really show any evidence Krugman’s criticisms or refute the arguments put forth by Frank and Krugman that the predatory lending wasn’t being conducted by “the big banks”.

Why insist on comparing apples to oranges? All the jets linked by Lord Feldon list top speed, they also have cruising speeds. The fastest has a cruising speed of 604mph the slowest has a cruising speed of 562.

What Bernie has actually been flying on is a Gulfstream G200. It has a top speed of 559mph and a cruise speed of 528mph. It doesn’t have the range to hit Rome from NYC without a stop though so he might take something else.

Again? Care to explain?

Heh ‘arguably started by Clinton.’ Maybe if Bernie hadn’t pulled the ‘quote-unquote’ thing. Maybe. Even though Clinton steadfastly refused to say it. Yeahrite.

He invokes such respected people as the head of the Fed in Minneapolis and the ex-head of the Fed in Dallas. Who? Yeah.

He also neglects to mention that Bernie will pay for that college tuition thing with a tax on Wall Street. Right, that’ll happen.

Last I looked, Lehman Brothers and AIG precipitated the financial crisis, neither of which was one of those ‘biggest banks,’ by speculating (in different ways, obviously) in the mortgage market. Yes, the banks created the instruments, but they would have meant nothing without all those smaller institutions filling them up and then investment firms like Lehman bundling and buying heavily into MBS’s.

Reich has the pedigree, he’s supposed to be an expert. I’m very disappointed in him now. And he’s also drinking the Sanders-ade.

Sorry, I just assumed it was Hank Beecher who posted that. It’s his M.O.