Is there a state more “diverse” than Hawaii?
Yeah, a caucus on a Saturday night of Easter Weekend is real diverse.
Hawaii is such a bogus canard for Sanders fans anyway, both a figurative and literal outlier.
Fine, the one minority he does well with are native Hawaiians. That’ll help him.
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Let me know when you’ve planted the goalposts in their permanent positions.
Besides, diversity has little to do with things. The key is who does better in the swing states. Texas and NY are plenty diverse, but neither is particularly up for grabs.
Like say Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio?
Well also Virginia and North Carolina. (And give Sanders one - Colorado.)
Hawaii though is interesting. It’s certainly non-White. But its diversity is very different than the diversity of the rest of the country, “with very sizable populations of Asian Americans and Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders (who account for 56% and 26%, respectively, of the resident population)” Fewer Blacks than the United States overall. I’m not so positive that low White means diverse if the majority of voters are still of one ethnic group but clearly not the diversity that translates into what diversity looks like elsewhere in the country.
Still Sanders did do well with the Asian American and Pacific Islander voting population and that may give him a bit of a nudge up in California where Asians make up 12% of likely voters and Blacks only 6%. Nationally for eligible voters anyway it’s Asians 4%, Blacks and Hispanics each 12%.
Another source to use is 538’s app. Their prediction based on 1012 turnouts was the voting share of Blacks will be 13.3%, Hispanics 10.6%, and Asian/other 5.5% nationally. In Hawaii Blacks 1.5%, Hispanics 9.8%, and Asian/other 47.3%. Swing states like Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Pennsylvania, and NC all have that national average or less for Asian/other but all larger to substantially larger Black populations than the national average. (And to Sanders chances to do well in California, it is much less than the average for Blacks.)
It was really infuriating, though not a great surprise, to hear on NPR about Hillary supporters who have felt bullied by “Bernie bros” into silence:
Obviously I, and some others on this board, are thicker-skinned and more aggressive, so we are willing to go to bat for her. But I think this dynamic is very common (my wife being about the age and temperament of the young women profiled here, and feeling the same way). It’s frustrating, even enraging. :mad:
Exactly–and Gore only needed three of the 25 to win, while Bush needed 24 (or maybe 23, since he could have gotten the House to put him in if there had been a tie).
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(Michael-In-Norfolk - Coming Out in Mid-Life: Quote of the Day: Barney Frank on Bernie Sanders) going around sourced to Barney which would suggest that he has indeed laid into Bernie. I can’t find a legit source for the attribution, but even if Barney didn’t say it, it’s all true:
Yeah, that’s me. I have a couple of friends who are Bernie supporters, and they know better than to pull that shit with me. They’ll get an earful of strident sarcasm and debate that they know they can’t handle.
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Wish I’d been there…I’d be cheering and laughing. I didn’t like Barney all that much when he was in office, but since he left he’s really growing on me.
What didn’t you like when he was in office?
Mostly it was the way he and a lot of the Dems acted during the Lewinsky thing. Him, Feinstein, Boxer, Schumer, and a bunch of others standing and baldfaced lying to the cameras, and you knew it as they were saying it.
I get that they were friendly with Bubba and they had a stake in it, they thought they were defending him. But it just rubbed me entirely the wrong way. It was the classic sleazy politician stereotype.
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I’m finding a lot of claims (ok 2, here is one) that Barney didn’t say it. And frankly it sounds a little off.
Frank is sharper and wittier to be honest. But it’s not a bad quote.
Yeah, I definitely had my doubts, which is why I added those caveats. But if Barney has issued any kind of statement, or even a tweet, shooting the whole thing down, I’ve missed it. Which suggests to me that if he or his people have heard about it, they are like “well, it’s not from us…but it’s not wrong”.
Just watched Bernie’s rally in CA. His head is literally PURPLE. What is wrong with the guy?
Can you imagine if he stroked out? Wouldn’t be shocking actuarily for a 75 year old guy under this much stress. But there would be so many Bernheads freaking out and accusing Hillary of pulling “another Vince Foster”. :eyeroll:
Bernie shamelessly pandering to California voters by comparing himself with the Golden State Warriors. Guess he doesn’t realize that the Warriors won not because of ‘momentum’ or ‘enthusiasm’ but because they scored the most points in the 4 games they won.
Ha! Well played, dale.
Lengthy Rolling Stone interview with Bernie Sanders:
Bernie shows that’s he’s absolutely clueless about how to accomplish his ‘revolution.’
When asked how he gets his ideas passed:
“How do you do it? It’s a good question and the truth is, right now I’m a bit busy running for president to have figured that out, other than to tell you it requires a mass-based political effort bringing millions of people together.”
This idiot has been in congress for over 25 years and hasn’t even the slightest idea how a president works with congress?
June 7 can’t get here soon enough.
He wants a revolution. President and Congress? That’s just more of the same ol’, same ol’.
I beg to differ. The tools for a revolutionary change are at hand, they are the same tools of our oppression. The Republican Party is an enemy, the Apathy Party is far worse. Bernie has done stirred folks up and that is a damn good thing, sorely needed.
I say well done, good and faithful servant! Rest now. We’ll take it from here, and you can come with us, rather than us follow you.
Well, he goes on to say that his plan to get stuff through a Republican House is to rally millions of people to demand that Congress pass the things he wants passed. This isn’t intrinsically a bad idea, but it’s overly simplistic in that those Republican Congresspersons don’t care what millions of Bernie Sanders supporters think about anything. And their political careers involve not giving a Democratic president anything they want. It’s a pretty screwed up situation, but it’s not going to change until people start losing primaries because of it - until then they’ve got a pretty good argument that they’re reflecting what their constituents want.