A campaign supporter, yes.
Do you think campaign supporters are dependent on the campaigns they support? If you meant to say campaign supporter, why did you use this bizarre “independent” language. He’s probably going to vote for Fetterman. That doesn’t make him dependent on Fetterman or a liar.
This is silly anyway. There’s no reason to believe that this doctor is putting his professional reputation on the for Fetterman just because he donated to his campaign. If you were citing some other doctors who examined Fetterman and this doctor’s opinion was a huge outlier, this might be an explanation of his possible motive, but you have given us no other professional, first hand, medical opinion.
I have seen the opinion of this doctor and you haven’t delivered any others, so I’m going to give this doctor’s opinion some weight, because that is obviously better than relying on the opinion of no doctors.
Independent, as in, not a campaign supporter. Surely, there are other qualified medical professionals in Pennsylvania.
Look maybe you’re the kind of person who would willingly, publicly lie for the benefit of any politician you donated money to, but most people aren’t like that, and there’s no reason to believe Dr. Chen is such a person either.
Also, why are you asking me to look up cites for you. That’s your job. And it’s really weird that I have to add this… it’s still your job to find your own cites when there are lots of doctors in Pennsylvania. I’m not sure why that matters, but it seems important to you.
WTF? I didn’t ask you to “look up cites” for me. I’m saying that it would be better if Dr. Chen’s public statement about Fetterman’s condition came from a doctor who had no connection, including donations, to the campaign.
It’s not possible for Dr. Chen’s statement to come from a doctor who had no connection, including donations, to the campaign. How would that even work?
We have a statement from a doctor who has examined Fetterman multiple times during his recovery. Dr. Chen is literally the world’s foremost expert on Fetterman’s condition. That’s the absolute best person to get a statement about Fetterman’s condition from.
I’m definitely giving Dr. Chen’s opinion more weight than @Bootb 's. It would be foolish not to, but it’s your choice.
This is not a reason to ignore the world’s foremost expert on Fetterman’s opinion. He might be biased or he might not be. That is true of literally every single human being on Earth. It’s not a legitimate reason. It’s a just flimsy excuse to ignore any opinion that you don’t like.
Gupta on Fetterman’s Ability to Serve in Senate After Stroke (mediaite.com)
how 'bout sanjay gupta?
Gupta kicked off his analysis by noting that watching the interview “was really interesting” as “you really get insight into how a stroke can affect a particular part of the brain and how people can recover from that as well.”
Gupta went on to explain that observers should not confuse Fetterman’s need for a visual aid with the Senate candidate not understanding the questions.
“He responds quickly and I think that was really important. Sometimes he might mash up a word or two, that’s how he described it. But what I think is so important, John, is that when we think about strokes, a lot of times people co-mingle, what is a functional deficit, auditory hearing, processing problem with cognition,” Gupta explained.
Good to know, thanks.
And see:
You mean an unaligned doctor like Trump’s doctor Ronny “The Candyman” Jackson, who used the status he gained in helping Trump lie about his health as a springboard for his own political career? And he got his nickname for because he had a reputation for handing out pills to young Republican staffers.
Did that bother you?
I think this post easily wins today’s “whataboutism” award.
Nah, it makes sense that, since Republicans expect doctors to lie to the public about their health, they think that Democrats will do the same.
I see it as perfectly relevant as a way of seeing where @D_Anconia is coming from, and why he would feel the way he does.
I’d say if this doctor, who knows Fetterman had a stroke, is still willing to make multiple donations to his campaign, that says a lot. He trusts Fetterman can both win and serve in spite of the medical incident.
Right?
“This doctor must know Fetterman is not mentally competent to serve in the senate because he is donating to Fetterman’s campaign,” is one of the most non-sensical arguments I’ve seen on this board lately.
Or he trusts that Fetterman will resign if he doesn’t get better. And he trusts that there then would be a Democratic governor, to appoint a good successor, in the event Fetterman is unable to perform the core duty of voting on legislation and presidential appointments.
I’m not a doctor, but I know that stroke recovery is unpredictable. I also know that, even with excellent care, having a prior stroke is a risk factor for having another.
I can’t reliably predict either candidate’s future health. I can predict, with greater chance of being right, that if Oz wins, the GOP will control the senate, making it nearly impossible for the administration to get anything accomplished, and make wasteful government shutdowns, and a debt ceiling crisis, likely.
Last month, Oz said “lots more information” is needed to determine if the 2020 presidential election was stolen. This month, he might not say that. But if Oz wins, he’ll pivot back to being a full Trumper. That’s more of a concern to me than whether Fetterman can draft legislation, something I don’t think Oz can do either.
FiveThirtyEight’s Deluxe Model is now 52/48 on D’s holding the Senate. They also have Walker favored for the first time in Georgia since early September.
Good thing nobody made that argument.
I’m not sure I’d call what you were doing as making an argument. More like dropping nonsensical nuggets here and there.
The facts are clear though. There is no better source of information than Dr. Chen on the topic of John Fetterman’s health. “He might be biased,” is not a reasonable excuse to dismiss Dr. Chen’s statement, because every person on Earth might be biased. It’s a lazy excuse to dismiss things you don’t like.
I’m sure Dr. Chen is a fine doctor, even an expert in his field. However, there is the appearance of impropriety. He’s got skin in the game, so to speak, as a financial supporter of Fetterman’s campaign.
It is intrinsic to yours.
There is no better informed person in the world than Dr. Chen on the topic of John Fetterman’s health.
I have no idea why you or anyone would want a statement from any other person.
A statement from a doctor who didn’t know what he was talking about, even if this doctor was politically neutral, would be inferior to Dr. Chen’s statement, because this doctor, and all other doctors, know less about Fetterman’s health than Dr. Chen.