Then supply the socio-political context. No one is stopping you.
Now I realize I typed one of those utterly pointless date incorrectly. It should have been…
October 17, 2011 - 17.0% Right Direction 76.5% Wrong Track
October 18, 2013 - 17.4% Right Direction 74.9% Wrong Track
June 10, 2009 - 45.8% Right Direction 45.8% Wrong Track
Most Americans will say the country isn’t “moving in the right direction” if you ask them right after their football team loses, or after they see a scary movie, or after they stub their toe.
It is a shame those other 76% can’t be bothered to vote.
I wonder who is dumber, the 24% or the 76% that allows itself to be governed by them.
It’s not my point that’s being so poorly made.
27% is an underestimate for the crazification factor. A better estimate is 54%. Remember, not all of the crazies voted for Keyes.
A lot of them do vote. If they didn’t, the right wouldn’t need voter suppression laws.
I think it’s an odd question that, depending on framing and state of mind, can mean different things. I believe that we have an overall long-term trend such that the average American is experiencing a higher quality of life over time. I believe Trump et al are a major retarding force on that trend, but that they are sufficiently ineffectual that they are not reversing the overall trend. We have a lot of momentum. But they’re still slowing us down.
What if we were on the RIGHT TRACK but going in the WRONG DIRECTION?
That is to say, what kind of poll asks a different question for the supposed opposite? What’s so difficult about asking: Right Direction or Wrong Direction?
This sort of poll will generate wrong direction responses without necessarily saying which would be the right one.
Democrats think Trump is nuts and anything he does is wrong thus overwhelmingly respond not going in right direction.
Republicans are fractured so so part of them saying wrong direction think we are not going in right direction because the border is not one giant wall-building construction zone and Obamacare is still the law of the land. They proudly voted for Trump and are pissed at those swamp-thing establishment Republicans who are still fighting the Trump Express. A few of these True Believers are probably were the right direction responses are coming from.
And another part of Republicans are those establishment Republicans who are horrified that the Trump-thing has taken over their party. Much of what the Cheeto-in-Chief does is not going in the right direction, though even stopped clock is right twice a day so at least he got the Gorsuch nomination right. Some with console themselves with the occasional right move and respond right direction but most will say no.
And Independents are dismayed and can’t help wonder if Trump and Clinton really were the best candidates that the major parties could come up with. Regardless, this is definitely not the right direction.
It would have been amusing to follow-up by asking the 24% what direction the country is headed in that’s so “right.” Probably we’d hear 24 contradictory answers.
I guess that’s true in that your posts don’t appear to have any point at all.
My point is that the size of the proportions of people answering this poll question in each direction right now is pretty normal compared to how people have been responding to it over about the last nine years. I supplied a link that demonstrated that to be true and pointed out some notably extreme data points merely because I found them interesting.
You have latched on to these points of interest and declared them to be useless without socio-political context presumably because you don’t remember what was going on in fall of 2013 or fall of 2011. If you believe that explicitly spelling out the socio-political of those times would add to your and others’ enjoyment of the thread you should add it to the thread.
Don’t bogart the socio-political context bro.
For a tracking poll it’s more important to ask the same question than to ask the right question. Polling orgs have been asking essentially the same question for a long time now and changing up the wording would then make it difficult to compare new data with old data.
Even with the question worded imperfectly it is still possible to get meaningful information out of the trends in the data. In mathematical terms the graphs of the perfectly worded question and the less than perfectly worded question over time have similar if not identical first derivatives.
The peak of the Trump admin for this question was in mid March and that peak was higher than the Obama admin had been since November of 2012. Since March there has been a steady decline down to about the average for this question over the last couple years.
I think the importance of current poll results are being overstated in the news as this poll result is fairly typical. The trend might be a little worrying for Republicans but it can mostly be explained by regression to the mean after a period of optimism when it looked like a unified Republican government might do things that Republican voters wanted them to do.
Yeah, wondering why so few responses reflect the fact that ‘right track’ feeling has been pretty low in this whole century so far. Of course the GOP/Trump would like to see ‘right track’ soar above Obama’s typical levels and it’s a failure for them so far that it hasn’t, after a post election bump.
But Americans are deeply divided what’s wrong about the ‘track’ and what to do about it. The next president who really turns this around will be in great shape to get reelected, but failing to turn it around doesn’t mean the other 70 whatever % are ready to vote for the other side.
I don’t think Trump, assuming he does not die in office or be impeached and removed, will be reelected. True, I did not think he would be elected last year. But that was a fluke. There comes a point, like when Joe McCarthy finally had his comeuppance. Trump’s election last year was just a fluke, and he may not even get the nomination in 2020. I have faith my fellow Americans will correct their mistake.
So your football team lost today and your angst is shared by ‘most americans’. I sure hope our gevernment knows about this relationship between your movie and stubbed toe anger is taken into account when the real grown-ups sit down to talk about global problems. Your input is valued, how else can we accurately gauge the ignorance and stupidity that seems to run rampant in our nation?
The majority voted, the majority voted for Clinton. Your 76% non-voter also doesn’t take into account how many of those votes were denied access to a polling station.
Trump might have been a fluke, but what he represents is not. Trump represents the politics of disruption and extremism, and that’s a trend that seems likely to continue. We’re living in an age of disruption, with new technologies, new means of receiving and processing information, and increased skepticism of established institutions and ideas. These factors are destabilizing, and with instability comes extremism. Trumpism will outlive Trump.
That is pretty disappointing that people say the country is on the wrong track under both Obama and Trump at about the same rate.
But I guess it ties into what you were saying. Under Obama, Obama had about 80-90% approval ratings from dems, about 10% approval from the GOP and maybe 40% from independents. Trump is the opposite with dem vs GOP (10% vs 80% approval) and independents are at the same at about 40%.
LMAO! Can I steal this for a sig?