4 NFL players may come out of the closet on the same day

In golf, Brian Gay won a tournament earlier this year and Gay Brewer won the 1967 Masters. :smiley:

But you’re right, I follow pro golf pretty closely and there is no male golfer that has ever come out. Lots of rumors about the last European Ryder Cup Captain though.

Lots of Women Golfers are out of the closet. But most of them are older and already retired or nearing retirement.

According to this article, Ayanbadejo was really overstating the situation.

The first LPGA Major is going on right now in Palm Springs, and it and the associated Dinah Shore Weekend Music Festival is the largest lesbian gathering in the world.

Better be a big closet.

So? AFAIK, there is not a younger LPGA pro that is OUT. Not saying there isn’t any, but I don’t know of any younger pro that is out.

Hope it’s not 4 kickers/punters.

Well in many Rugby playing countries the reaction would be “of course he is gay, he is in the NFL”.:smiley:

On a more serious note, Welsh Rugby player Gareth Thomas, one of the greatest of all time is openly gay, came out at the fag(!) end of his career.

In cricket, Steven Davies who has played for England (i.e at the highest level) is openly gay. Though I suspect he is more famous for his sexuality than his skills as a player.
Any other sports where there are out players at the top level. And preferably out male player, because (and I feel horrid saying this but its true) there is a sub conscious acceptance even expectation of lesbianism in female sports.

The whole thing is that for large populations in America gay women are still seen as either exceptionally feminine (“girls kissing omg so hot”) or exceptionally masculine (“dykes”, construction workers, athletes) where gay men are only seen as hyper-feminine, since a hyper-masculine gay man would cause those bigoted hetero males to have a gender crisis I.E. they would feel “feminized” in comparison. So for the typical male that cares about such things, it would be fine if gay males are flamboyant Broadway-singing interior designers, because they, as Real Men, are even manlier in comparison. But an NFL player? NFL players are as Manly as you can get, the American ideal of masculinity. So it’s impossible for an NFL player to be gay, because gay guys are feminine, and if the Manliest Men Alive can be feminine, then I must be incredibly feminine in comparison, and being a woman is the Worst Thing Ever, so…

Anyway.

This is interesting to me because my favorite sport out of the Big Four is hockey, by far. But I have to pretend a lot of issues like this don’t exist in hockey, because they are faaaaaaaaaaaar behind most sports in acceptance of all forms, and it would destroy my enjoyment of the game. Some hockey fanbases still are openly racist! (Exhibit A: Boston)

A good example of this are helmets, visors and cages. From the start of the sport it was seen as “womanly” to wear a helmet, and anyone who tried was derided by the media, fans, and fellow players for, essentially, being a “pussy.”

There were a lot of on-ice “incidents”, but it wasn’t until 1968, when Bill Masterson died on ice, that they thought it wouldn’t be a terrible idea. But they didn’t mandate their use until ELEVEN years later, in 1979! All because helmets were “womanly”. (Football had been using helmets for 80 years at that point…)

Once it became standard, the next thing was clear plastic shields, called visors, that cover the eyes - in a sport where it’s routine to block rubber pucks moving at 90MPH with your body, it was seen as “womanly” to protect your eyes, nose, and all the squishy bits with a piece of plastic. Yea, some people complained that they fogged up, but those arguments were largely bullshit.

It wasn’t until a few years back, when future hall of famer Chris Pronger took a puck to the head and effectively ended his career - not to mention Marc Staal practically losing an eye - that now players are wearing them and there’s serious talk of mandating them.

But you know what’s even better? Cages, wire shields that cover the whole face area. Pretty much full visibility (after an adjustment period, of course) and 100% protection from 90mph pucks, being slammed into boards by an angry 240lb defensemen, razor sharp skate blades that can fly through the air at times, etc. They’re required at the lower levels, but once you move to the NHL - where Real Men play - there’d be no end to the abuse someone would take for opting to wear one.

Just a few weeks ago, Sydney Crosby (whose called “Cidney Crysbaby” by opposing teams fans), who is inarguably the face of the NHL for better or worse, broke his jaw from a 90mph slapshot. His return is indefinite, he might be out for the rest of the year, and if the puck had moved a little here, a little there, his career could have easily been over. All because cages are “womanly” and not what Real Men wear.

With all of that said, I’d find it incredible if any hockey player came out anytime soon. There’s some really classy teams, some really classy fanbases, but there’s also a laaaaarge knuckle dragging contingency to hockey, to the point where the players risk their lives in easily avoidable ways because they don’t want to be seen as “womanly”.

The odd thing is, the general public does have a notion of hyper-masculine gay men, and yet this chain of “logic” still persists. There’s the whole leather scene, gladiator movies, wrestlers, etc., all of which are masculine (or at least, decidedly not feminine), and which are practically themselves code-words for “gay”. Point is, bigotry is inherently illogical, and trying to force it to be logical is a fool’s errand.

I’ve read these types (gay or not gay) of threads before. The number one way to prove if someone is gay is if the are married. More kids, more gay. :smiley:

Zebra-I saw a study directly contradicting your notion that the NHL is socially backward. Their players were the MOST receptive to gay rights/a gay player.

Well, he* is* a dancer…

:wink:

That’s because of all the Canadians in the NHL. Even if they didn’t like gay players, they’d be too polite to mention it.

So its the Russians? I KNEW it!

Hmm… I mean, if you don’t necessarily believe what anyone in Hollywood says about emotional relationships, then what we’ve got is a woman reaching the end of her childbearing years getting pregnant by a guy who she remains friends with, and who takes a mild but not super-involved role in visiting the child as she raises the child herself. Just saying, that doesn’t exactly rule out the ‘gay male friend’ role for the guy.

And, while I hate to traffic in stereotypes, Brady certainly does dress better than the average heterosexual guy. Plus, who better to be a beard than a world-traveling supermodel who lives in another country – it’s not like a lesbian supermodel wouldn’t have her own reasons to get a male beard, and how many days are they going to spend together anyway with their schedules?

Sure, Brady doesn’t seem like a duplicitous guy, but if I was a seventh round draft pick who only got a starting job because the real starter got injured, I might feel just precarious enough about my situation to heavily conceal anything that might make me unemployable, to the extent of having a couple famously attractive women as beards. And then, once I was established enough, the endorsement offers start coming in and there’s even more incentive to be squeaky clean in public.

Not saying I believe this, just that when I started thinking about how ridiculous it was to have Brady on the list, I ended up in a little more plausible place.

Plausible is the wrong word here. This is a combination of uninformed speculation and stereotyping. Going by this kind of logic you can never prove anybody isn’t gay - which is why this tangent started as a joke.

The “Fab 4” will undoubtedly be fringe players that only us hardcore NFL fans will even know.

Maybe after they come out, former QB Jeff Garcia can admit what anyone with eyes and ears already knows. :smiley:

As I mentioned earlier I find it amusing that being married always seems to be used as proof that someone is gay rather than evidence against in threads like these. Maybe I’m old fashioned but I tend to believe that most men married to women are not gay. I do realize it happens but without any other evidence I choose to take it at face value.

I admit, Garcia has a lot of effeminate mannerisms. And yet, he’s married to a Playboy centerfold and has 4 kids.

I know, I know, that COULD be just a cover. But if the guy just wanted a beard, did he have to go so far? He couldn’t have married some random ugly girl and adopted 1 kid for show? Seems like an awful lot of work just to maintain a pretense.

Fans? Other than in the Bible Belt, probably not.

Players who have to share a locker room with him? That’s a different matter.