I could not agree more. In fact, I’ve been bitching about this for about a week or so. Governor Pawlenty “proclaimed” that tomorrow will be “Patriot Day” and asked all Minnesotans to observe a moment of silence at 7:26am. Why? Silence isn’t going to help anyone. There are several candlelight vigils scheduled for tomorrow, some of which are specifically meant to honor Tom Burnett (the “Let’s Roll” guy) because, apparently, he’s from around here.
All the while, people are screaming that we mustn’t forget. Who the fuck could? I didn’t wait in a line for hours to get a newspaper on September 12, 2001. I didn’t videotape anything. I didn’t print pictures, or the buy the book. Chances are, I’m not going to buy the movie, either. I wish I had done some of these things, especially getting my hands on a paper, because I have a son and I think it would make a great contribution to a future history project. But I saw the news and I read the threads, and I just can’t see myself forgetting this anytime soon.
I do wonder how long this will go on. I was asked this morning if I remember when the OKC bombing happened. I had to guess (turns out I was right), but I didn’t know. Why is that? Why don’t we “remember” OKC every year? Because it was domestic? Because it didn’t result in a war? Because “we got 'em”, so it just didn’t matter anymore?
Kind of ironic though, that it seems they went short on aviation stocks beforehand. That, more than anything else makes me despise them. And I despise very few people.
Yeah, it’s true. People will remember or history will forget or whatever will happen, I’m attempting not to give a crap about that. I certainly don’t need to be reminded. I saw it the first time, and I’m from New York, so even though I wasn’t in the city that day there’s nothing the TV news is going to tell me in some dumbass tribute special that I don’t already know and didn’t already feel. This kind of bullshit is unnecessary when you actually have the genuine feelings behind it, which makes me wonder why so many people need to produce or watch these things.
I’m sure this isn’t the case, but reading that, I immediately pictured caps that had miniature foam rubber skyscrapers on top of them, like antlers. :eek: Wisconsonites can wear Cheesehead hats; NYCers can wear Towerhead hats. (No offense to Wisconsonites!)
And Liberal, GMAFB. Even if each and every WTC and red-white-and-blue themed thingamajig manufactured since 9/11/01 sold, it still wouldn’t offset the economic losses sustained on that day.
How much time do you spend coming up with these little brown nuggest of mischievous contrariety? It’s more and more clear that most of your posts are just hollow attempts to poke a stick into an anthill. What do you, live under a bridge?
Right now, Beat Takeshi is hosting a show offering incontrovertable proof that the Pentagon wasn’t hit by a plane, missles were fired, the Jews/Administration/Freemasons knew about the attack beforehand, and that Iraq was involved because they have WMDs.
Who says we’ll never forget? I was noticing more and more stories about the WTC on TV over the last few days, and thought it was kind of odd. But I didn’t bother to look at the calendar until just now. :smack:
I’m sure we can all expect this for many decades to come, just like how we get lots of Pearl Harbor documentaries on December 7th, and stories about JFK on November 22nd. America really knows how to idolize her dead.
Thank god I don’t own a TV and only read about half a dozen sites online. I should be able to avoid most of the media blitz.
I lost an aunt as a direct result of the attacks on the towers but it’s been three years. Move the fuck on already… 1,095 days of mourning should be more than enough.
What I find so utterly disgusting is the complete disregard in the USA for the fact that it is not about US victims only.
I don’t have my information about it here under my hands, but if I recall well the victims had all together 86 nationalities.
My friend who died there most certainly was not a US citizen.
I also don’t need to see over and over again the burning towers coming down, knowing that they are filming his death, wondering over and over again where he was, how he died, if he suffered or not, if he jumped or not, if he burned alive or not, if he was crushed under the rubble before he burned into dust or not.
I have no message on that. His widow and child and family have no message on that.
There is most certainly not such an endless milking out of the deaths of so many people in other nations where the victims were citizens
That it is done in the USA has nothing to do with compassion or even with keeping them in memory. It has everything to do with disgusting milking out of their deaths for political goals and for keeping the nationalistic patriotistic war mongering fire burning. The fact alone that so many US citizens still speak as if it was US only who died there says enough about the effect of that propaganda machine.
World Eater is completely right: Watching the site being sold as a touristic attraction makes me sick. My friend must be still burried there… The dust that is left from him, that is. He doesn’t need it to be filmed by Japanese and other idiots for the simple goal of showing off at home.
And what do you mean exactly with asking who is laughing louder?
We remember OKC every year, too. Just not to the same extent that we remember 9/11. OKC, don’t forget, was almost 10 years ago, and didn’t have the same sheer scale that 9/11 had. Also, the Columbine shooting happened around that time in 1999. April 19/20 is a pretty significant day to some people, and lots of things happened on those dates.
That said, I am also disgusted at the amount of time that is being devoted to “memorials”. I recognize that it’s only been three years since the attacks, but I think it’s absolutely horrendous that some, especially in the media and in government, are looking to cynically manipulate our emotions for profit.
I reviewed the news websites for Sep 11 and I teared up. It’s still heart-rending, made somewhat better by my knowledge that I’ve contributed - if only in a very small way - to punishing the perpetrators.
Read this post to gain perspective. And know that, from the terrorist perspective, 3,000 Americans died that day. If all 3,000 weren’t Americans on paper, they were in spirit. Terrorists could give a shit either way.
I can tell you that my dead friend, his widow, his child and his relatives and friends, which includes, me can’t be more disgusted then when reading that post of Liberal.
And who are you to say that my friend was US citizen “in spirit”? How much more arrogant can you become? He was not US citizen “in spirit” since he was EU citizen by birth and in spirit and in everything what ever mattered to him.
As for the goal of the attack: Do you think these hijackers and those who planned the whole thing cared all that much about the nationalities of the people inside? Do you think their target was the people inside these buildings?
Sorry to disappoint you in what your propaganda has spoonfed you: These attacks were not planned “to kill as much US citizens as possible”.
Their goal was to strike against symbols of US power and capitalism, no matter who was inside the buildings or how many.
Or do you believe that striking such buildings early in the morning provokes more casualties then when plotting to choose an hour where you can be sure that they are full of people that showed up for their job?
It might be an anthema to you , and possibly others , but shortly after the atrocity , many people around the world espoused that same meme, we are all americans.
They may not have realized that they were not attacking a strictly american workplace , maybe with the exception of the pentagon or the flight that was supposed to have attacked the white house.
And yes , I believe that the people were icing on the cake , for the individuals who commited the atrocity , otherwise they might have done it at night or the crack of dawn.
So you have intimate knowledge of their plans ?
The axis of the attack was dependent on highjacking the airliners , that were chosen both for the quantity of fuel that would have been aboard , plus the fact that the airliners themselves were not at capacity , passenger wise , to facilitate highjacking.