Ah…clarity at last. Thank you.
Bullshit. It is not magical. You will get a response but without the right information you may not get the response you want or need. The cop was wrong. The is no excuse for that, but calling 911 isn’t like putting in an order at the drive thru. You can’t afford to get pissy when your order doesn’t have the effect you want. I don’t see anyone defending the officer. But two people can be wrong. He should have been able to do his job regardless of the actions of the other person. He should never have hung up.
There is a difference between saying that all 911 calls should be treated like an emergency and that there is an emergency because its on 911.
Which is pretty much what I was trying to say. Being a 911 dispatcher is a very difficult job. I have worked with several incompetent ones. Most do their jobs adequately. Those that are great at the job are great to work with. It makes the job much easier.
Loach, you need to learn how to quote people because the 2nd and 3rd quote boxes you have were not by me and the way you’ve quoted it makes it appear to be so.
Also, you’re still trying to blame the girl for something that it’s not her job to take care of. It is 100% the fault of the person who was being paid to do a job that he is clearly not qualified to do.
Don’t be ridiculous. I never expect people around here to agree with me. If they did, this wouldn’t be a leftie board. I could go to a rightie board however and post the exact same things and be applauded.
So, given I don’t think that, I must therefore be right. Right?
Nah. There are lots of ways to be wrong.
By a diminishing crowd.
What Bryan Ekers said. And if what you said was correct I would expect at least someone to support your points on Vince Foster for example. The conclusion remains that it is really silly to pretend all those points are coming from your brain when those same points were seen coming from glurge, right wing spam or right wing message boards (Hey, it is good to see that you are expanding your horizons! :))
If you’re going to continue to accuse me of lying, there isn’t anything more for us to talk about.
No I don’t. I just didn’t want to take the time to go back and type in the names. It wasn’t attributed to you and those that said it will know who I was talking to.
The cop was 100% wrong. There was nothing about his actions that was correct. I was trying to be informational rather than place blame. In my experience there are a lot of callers to 911 that demand help and get indignant when they are questioned by the dispatcher. When the dispatcher does not get the information they need it causes delays to the help they want. Often when they get incomplete information they will send a cop to find out what is going on. That will cause delays if what you really need are paramedics.
Don’t forget that what I was originally responding to was:
And the answer is “No”. That is not all. More information is needed. The dispatcher should have been able to draw that information out. He didn’t. But you might be surprised how often callers resist giving information when they call 911.
Now lets get out of the way. Don’t you know this is the Starving Artist show?
Yeah, that Starvey. He just won’t stop answering people, will he? :rolleyes:
As long as you realize that sometimes you should just let it go.
Well, all right then. Goodnight.
O rly?
Except that you’re a liar, of course, the discussion of which apparently provides no end of entertainment.
This may be your only endearing quality. No, wait! There’s also imagining your posts as read by Balki Bartokomous. You have two endearing qualities. I’m sure your mother is proud.
And to your credit, you just keep finding new ones.
SHUT UP!
Really.
Well, as long as that’s settled.
A nice post. Sorry I missed it on the first go round.
I don’t think that people here are so much disputing the claim that civility has diminished in the past few decades as they are saying “So what?”
In other words, they don’t care. It’s fine with them. Where they think stupidity comes in is in criticizing it, failing to realize that greater civility would make their own lives both safer and more pleasant.
But of course civility requires discipline and discipline is anathema to permissiveness. The entire purpose of permissiveness is for people to be able to act however they want and everyone else be damned. So when someone comes along saying that it would be better if things were more civil, they get laughed at and derided and called stupid, when what the problem really is is that the people doing the name-calling simply don’t want to have to exercise the discipline that would be required if they were to behave with more civility.
A perfect example of this can be seen in all the wailing and hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth that went on around here simply because Ed Zotti decided to put a stop to vulgar name-calling in the Pit. The mere idea that people might have to discipline themselves rather than blurt out the first obscenity that comes to mind resulted in innumerable ATMB protest threads, two spin-off boards and the defection of many prolific longtime posters. (It should be noted that Ed, who is clearly not a dolt, was also called old-fashioned, stupid, a prude, dictatorial and most of the other insults that I come in for as well.)
So this is why I don’t mind when people around here call me stupid. I know that the real problem is that they just don’t want to have to act like grown-ups, but neither do they want to admit that, so they resort to calling me old-fashioned, stupid, a prude, yadda, yadda, yadda.
And my apologies, Loach. I know I said I was gone for the night, but since my absence seemed to result in little but making way for the trollery of Tenebras, I figured it wouldn’t hurt to jump back in.
See this is your glaring error.
One you assume she’d be acting logical in a scary situation. Unlike you she isn’t an emotionless robot. As such she may use intense langauge without realizing it in a bad situation.
Two the threat of a lawsuit was prolly meant to scare the dickhead 911 guy into sending help. It has a certain logic to it. 911’s job is to send help, guy isn’t sending help despite daddy dieing, therefor he must be doing something illegal that can be punished. Maybe a threat of legal action will scare him straight.
In one case at least, they are disputing the the claim that violent crime increased during the sixties by saying that it decreased during the 90s - shortly after the Republicans took control of Congress for the first time since 1969. 
(Correlation isn’t causality and all that.)
But the general breakdown in civility is part and parcel of the end of an ethos. American society in general was much more homogeneous fifty or sixty years ago, if for no other reason than that there was less immediate mass communication. No TV, little or no national radio, hometown newspapers - that kind of thing.
The consensus was easy to mock, and it contained a lot of bad things like racism and xenophobia, but it also contained a lot of mores that enforced a standard of behavior that everyone understood, even if they didn’t always abide by it.
I rather doubt we can get back to it, but that doesn’t mean we can’t recognize the loss.
Regards,
Shodan
No way! That box that music comes out of just isn’t natural. I think there’s a demon inside it.
Since you have proven that you simply don’t understand the conversation, you have nothing further to contribute to it. It has been quite clearly pointed out that people under stress have cussed since the day profanity was invented.
No, when someone comes along making excuses for an incompetent power-abusing police officer, they get laughed at and derided and called stupd. What the problem really is is that people who make excuses for incompetent power-abusing police officers are stupid.
Which years? The early years of the Republic, in which the most scurrilous accusations flew freely from partisan sources that would put Free Republic and Democratic Underground to shame? The Hearst years, memorialized in the language by the term “yellow journalism”?