A bet on sex laws in the US. Can you help?

Probably been covered before, but…

I made a bet with my boss that there existed in the States (or currently exists) a law stating that ONLY the missionary position is legal (or that everything else is illegal, so…). Now I’ve found websites that have lists that show certain sodomy laws, etc. But nothing that is missionary specific. I had thought that it was in Washington DC a while back that had this law, but I can’t find it at all.

Anyone know? I need proof to win this bet- he said, she said won’t work.

This is important! I have an Indian cuisine dinner riding on this!

Thanks-
-Tcat

I don’t know about non-missionaries in general, but “indian cuisine dinner riding” sounds like a highly illegal position. :wink:

Looks like you lose. I know that sex in any position is allowed in California. I don’t even think we have an anti-sodomism law.

I can’t locate any mention of laws that relegated all americans to the missionary position, but I did find this page: http://members.home.net/cattywompus/law.html It states that it’s illegal in D.C.

-Sam

Maybe a clarification-

Not something that applies to ALL of the US, just any law ANYWHERE in the States…Even a County or District law would win me the bet.

Thanks-

Then you win TC! :slight_smile:

You have one Indian Cuisine dinner coming right up! :smiley:

-Sam

Not yet! I have to PROVE it. That page states it as true, BUT I need something more than just the statement. I need the law itself or a reliable source that states it (Cecil would possibly work, or it being mentioned in a law journal, etc.) as being true.

I’m dubious about all the laws mentioned in that link. I certainly wouldn’t trust it.

It’s always fun to look around dumblaws.com

I think that until fairly recently when DC got home rule, all DC statute law was handed down by Congress (or at least by a committee of congress) so if there is such a statute, you might find it in the Congressional Record. Good luck.

They have this to say about North Carolina

The dumblaws.com FAQ says that they are pretty sure that all the laws on their site are real laws. I don’t know if this will be enough to win you dinner.

I’'ll try Congress laws. Thanks folks!

‘While having sex, you must stay in the missionary position and have the shades pulled.’

Yes, thats important because most sheep prefer that position.

I did a quick search on Westlaw and could find no current NC law with the language previously quoted by lance turbo; going on to all states the search mostly turned up tax laws for missionaries and that it was illegal to use your position to get sex.

I did find some interesting statutes in the great liberal basion of Idaho:

I.C., § 18-6603, Fornication

I.C., § 18-6605, Crime against nature

and what is a Crime against nature?

however, an exception

State v. Holden went on to say as long as it was in private…

Sorry I couldn’t help ya tomcat but maybe you can argue the crime against nature bit, just don’t mention it doesn’t apply to married couples in the privacy of the home.

First, you’re not going to get anywhere looking for the term “missionary position.” Cecil addressed this once. See the following URL:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_215.html

The term “missionary position” was apparently invented as a joke in the '60’s. The claim (probably incorrect) was that missionaries would be horrified when they found that the native tribe that were preaching to was using anything other than what the missionary considered to be the only “natural” position for sex.

“The term “missionary position” was apparently invented as a joke in the '60’s.”

I’m not so sure. According to my Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary the term dates to 1948 and IIRC it was used by James Michener in his book, Hawaii (1959).

Dumblaws.com has this to say about Jasper County, Alabama:

I would have beleived that a month ago, but thanks to Unca Cecil I no longer do. Dumblaws.com does not appear to be an accurate source of information.

Does “rule of thumb” refer to an old law permitting wife beating?

Yeah writes:

> I’m not so sure. According to my Merriam-Webster’s
> Collegiate Dictionary the term dates to 1948 and IIRC it
> was used by James Michener in his book, Hawaii (1959).

Interesting. My copy of The Second Barnhart Dictionary of New English also says that the first known use was in 1969. Does the Merriam-Webster give a reference for that use in 1948? What page (or maybe what chapter and how far into the chapter) is the reference in Hawaii? It’s possible that this means it’s an older joke than Cecil thought, but it’s still likely that it’s just a joke, not something that ever happened to any missionaries. I don’t really think that any laws are going to use what’s in any case just a slang term.

Well,you might have won yourself a dinner, but I’m not going to do the research for you. You might want to research the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)

Apparently, the only “authorized” sexual activity by military members is by married (to each other) soldiers in their own quarters, in (you guessed it) the “missionary” position.

Sodomy is verboten under UCMJ, (which includes oral sex) and so on. At any rate, I would definitely do a web search about the UCMJ, it may find the passage you are looking for.

Actually, Lance, that law you quote is 100% correct: In Jasper County, it is in fact illegal for a man to beat his wife with a stick larger than his thumb. Of course, what the web page isn’t telling you, is it’s also illegal to use a stick that’s smaller, too.

I want to defy the logic of all sex laws.