Indeed. For every reasonable view they may hold, they spoil it by insisting that fish be called (iirc) sea kittens and comparing chicken farming to the holocaust. It makes it just a wee bit difficult to take them seriously.
Wow, the lawyer who makes laughable claims of getting paid $500 an hour for his faulty legal opinion while informing on a message board how much ass he could kick lays down a past thread insult. Clown.
As far as PETA, one way or the other, don’t care.
Just some advice. People value different things… You apparently highly value some school of thought on mortgage interest values. Other people value other things. So while “you’re completely ill-informed about mortgage rate values!” is devastating insult to you, it isn’t really to other people.
When you join completely unrelated threads to say this it kind of backfires and says more about you then it does gonzomax.
Wait, why would you want public executions? If I were dying, I’d be freaked out to have my last moments be publicized, with slack jawed people pointing and laughing at me.
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I don’t get paid $500 per hour and never have claimed that I do. It is a fact that my firm gets paid over $500 per hour for my services. I don’t really give a shit whether you believe this or not, I’m just correcting what you said I said.
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You are using a “past thread insult” to excoriate me for using a past thread insult. Seems like you have some pot v. kettle issues, bub.
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You are an idiot.
Dude, it is not the case that gonzomax and I have a different opinion on some issue (except, I guess, for the issue of whether or not he’s a complete idiot).
Uh okay troll
:rolleyes:
Ok, I stand corrected. You claim your company charges $500 an hour for your douchebaggery. Can we now agree?
I wasn’t excoriating you, just pointing out your respect credentials here.
That hurts.
Then what the fuck are you babbling about?
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You should really read that mortgage interest thread before making statements like that. There’s a big difference between “different school of thought” and “wrong.”
As for circuses, when I was five I got to ride the baby elephant before the show. That was fuckin rad.
This thread does call out for a big cite on the treatment of the animals at Barnum & Bailey Circus. Can the anti-circus posters support their position of animal cruelty with perhaps a serious Humane Society* study that specifically address Barnum & Bailey and not other smaller circus? I was under the impression that B&B got a passive grade in general.
PETA studies are of course worth nothing at all.
Disclaimer: I am an animal lover, I support the humane Society, World Wildlife Fun and even Green Peace but I hate PETA intensely and I hate claims without support.
- Or any other legit scientific study.
The point is mortgage interest usually ranks in people’s minds at about the same level as “bovine dentistry”.
He may well be the biggest mortgage rate fool on the planet, but we’re talking about PETA here damn it.
Focus!
Fair enough. I say we make Ingrid Newkirk clean up elephant poop for a month and see how much she loves those gentle giants then.
And let’s not forget those clowns who are cruelly stuffed into midget cars.
Up against the wall, Barnum & Bailey!
[golf clap]
Honestly, if PETA really cares about animals being treated poorly, why aren’t they protesting against factory livestock farming, instead of all livestock farming? Why do they kill pets that could be adopted out? And why approach sentimental, unreasoning kids instead of their voting-age, money-spending parents?
They want it all, that’s why. They’re a political organization, not a humane organization. They get off on their own outrage and hope they can coopt the issues thoroughly enough so the checks and pledges keep coming.
With PETA’s reputation, they could show a propaganda video of circus animals being mistreated and I would assume that they staged it themselves.
I avoid circuses, but it’s only because the clowns terrify me. I’m not going to print up pamphlets about it, though.
Probably about the same as anything that gonzo pulls out of his ass.
USDA vet’s inspection: http://www.wildlifeadvocacy.org/programs/ringling/usdadocs.htm
As far as corporate conduct goes, Feld plays dirty:
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/08/30/circus/index.html
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/08/31/circus/index.html
I have no love for PETA or Feld.
They are. They recently got a law passed overwhelmingly here in California to make chicken and pig farming significantly more humane.
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