A Brief Tribute to Law & Order

Did you mean McCoy?

I’ve always been intrigued by Abbie. I don’t think there was ever a mention of any romantic interest in her past. The only two facts that I seem to remember about her was that she came from Dallas and she wanted to see every criminal suffer and die.

But she did get in some excellent quips. Remember, “Put this between your knees and squeeze”?

I thought it was Houston.

No I meant Wolf. Because it seems to come up a lot. McCoy is the usual surrogate, but it seems like wish fulfillment on someone behind the scene’s part. Or someone just thinks that’s the way it is. of course you sleep with your assistant(s).

There was an interesting episode where the roles were reversed - “Hang 'em High” Abby was pushing for the leniency side, and McCoy was looking to execute.

Another great Jack McCoy moment: irritated at the exclusion of evidence by the judge, McCoy asks Curtiss if he was looking for the murder weapon before he and Brisco visited the defendant’s apartment. “Yes” “How about after you left?” (McCoy ends up in jail for contempt).

There was one episode where someone said the same thing to Abbie. She replied, “Dallas”.

There’s an episode where Jack makes a plea deal with a serial killer and it requires that he not extradite the killer to a state with the death penalty. (I just looked it up; Agony, season 9, episode 5.) When evidence is found that exonerates the suspect from the one murder he was going to plead guilty to, McCoy needs to find something new to use as leverage. He asks Abby if she still has some letterhead from the Houston D.A.'s office and creates a letter to make it look like the suspect will be extradited to Texas.

I remember that one. Maybe she worked in Houston for a while? Or maybe she went to school there?

I would like to find the episode where she said she was from Dallas. But I fear it would be very difficult to find that. I can’t remember who it was that she told she was from Dallas. I have a hunch it was someone trying to hit on her. But I just can’t remember.

Here is a link from Wiki that states she is from Dallas.

Yippee! I finally beat the 5 minute limit on editing.

I thought it was an OBGYN surgery? There was the surgeon who deliberately removed a heart and lung block from a living patient for a transplant because he was trying to get to a better hospital (McCoy caught him by asking why he needed morphine for the transplant removal surgery) and then there was the OB/GYN who did surgery with the biomed rep in the OR.

I also like the episode where a wealthy couple adopted a baby from Russia, found out she was ill, and dumped her on another couple who had already adopted a troubled boy and would not be eligible for another adoption.

I liked the first McCoy episode with the luminous Elizabeth Ashley as his opponent. He was prosecuting a woman for prescribing laetrile as a cancer treatment. He also had a good episode with Patty LuPone when he was prosecuting a nanny for poisoning a baby. He had found exculpatory evidence and after he questioned his witness, he goes back to his desk and as he passes Patty he whispers “You owe me.” Patty’s facial expression as she processes what he said in a flash and then proceeds to tear the witness a new one is a joy to behold.

An early Stone episode got him shutting down a suspect who orchestrated a bombing of an abortion clinic. Since she sent in a pregnant woman to deliver the bomb and she was killed in the explosion, he checkmated her nicely by asking, “If abortion is murder, then no matter how you feel about Mary Donovan, aren’t you guilty of the murder of her unborn child?”

I could sit here all day and talk about L&O.

Excellent! Well, you are definitely in the right place then.

I remember some of those episodes and you are certainly right. I am slowly but surely binge watching all 20 seasons. But I started with season 6 because I recall the first five seasons were not as good as the rest.

However, I will shortly be getting to those first five seasons.

My point is that I remember most of those episodes you mention and I agree they were some of the very best.

I enjoy the episodes with the surprise endings. Several have a married couple participating in a murder and the husband thinks the wife is under his thumb. But at the very end, the wife give hubbie a big surprise and turns the table on him. One good example is titled “Mega” and it stars Michael McKean and Annette O’toole. One of my most favorties.

I always liked seeing if I could recognize the real-life case that inspired the story.

“Ripped from the headlines.”

Since it went off the air, all we could do is see a real life event and wonder, what would the L&O episode look like?

Until FBI and FBI Most Wanted. This week’s FBI:MW was ripped from any number of school shootings and combined with the Las Vegas shooter.

I’ve been looking for a while for the episode that deals with Paul and Karla Homolka (aka The Scarboroough Rapist).

They made some of the biggest criminal news ever in Canada. They acted as a team to abduct and then rape and murder young girls.

I guess Paul figured he was invincible because one day he beat the snot out of his wife Karla and she was not going to take that from him and so she went to the police and told them all about hubby who is currently serving a life sentence and it is very doubtful he will ever get out again. Almost everyone in Canada who gets a life sentence eventually gets out after a while. But this guy is kind of like the Charles Manson of Canada.

Would anyone know which episode in Law and Order tells their story? I know that one such episode does. But I have been unable to find out which one.

I found the name of the episode is Fool For Love but need to know which season it’s in.

The episode “Fools for Love”, which aired on 23 February 2000 and is episode 15 of the tenth season, was based on the story of Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo.

It has Ellen Pompeo in it.

You’re right - it was a OB/GYN. I remembered this line “Rudnick said he’d throw in a tummy tuck” and got confused.

Since L&O took place in New York, they did most of the filming there. Since The Sopranos took place in New Jersey, they did most of the filming in that region.

Many years ago, the TV station A&E (which used to run a lot of L&O episodes) did a L&O marathon in which each episode featured a guest actor who was a regular on The Sopranos. They never advertised that is what they were doing, but for those of who watched it was a lot of fun identifying The Sopranos characters. My favorite was the episode I.D. in which Aida Turturro (Janice on The Sopranos) had a bit part as a rather clueless receptionist.

As I’m watching L&O this very second while I check my boards, WeTv is up to Briscoe/Green episodes. They cycle through all of them in order and it feels like just yesterday we were on Robinette/Stone.

Thanks ever so much!

I just watched the episode “Fools for Love”. It was a very good episode. But there were many big differences between the episode and the reality.

I suppose that is certainly nothing to complain about. After all, the producers of the show have entirely different objectives than the news media who reported this story. But I thought some of you might enjoy hearing some of the differences between the reality and the TV show.

In reality, the female got hardly any jail time - my memory is that she was only jailed for about 2 or 3 years. Her lawyer got her an incredible deal. On the show, she got 25 years to life - which is what I think most people would have said she deserved.

They could have easily turned this into 2 or 3 episodes. I remember another case there were 3 episodes when some killer who resembled Ted Bundy left a trail of bodies all across the country. He and Abbie Carmichael got into some very nasty personal exchanges. This guy was the mother of all creeps. I’m pretty certain they did 3 episodes on this story line but so far as I remember, they never showed us how it all ended. Maybe I missed an episode somewhere along the way.

In an case, back to “Fools for Love”, they did a good job showing how incredibly creepy the female was. But they portrayed the male as a very normal individual which I found very strange because he had a very long history of raping and killing girls. He began his spree - which lasted about 6 years - when he was quite young and lived in an area called Scarborough. He raped girls for many years (maybe 5 years) and was never caught. He was given the nickname, “The Scarborough Rapist” and it seems so incredible that he could have been raping girls for something like 5 years in the same location while holding down a full time job as an accountant and was never caught. He was only caught when he made the mistake of beating his gf and she then turned him in. All in all, a very incredible story.