A Cricket World Cup

A full explanation might be too much of a hijack for this thread, minega, but the question has been asked before, so some of the replies to this thread might help you:

Would one of my fellow Dopers explain just how cricket is played?

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Sri Lanka’s ruthless destruciton of the minor nations continues. At least Canada can take solace in the fact that their score was ten runs more than New Zealand’s lowest test innings record.

The radio here is reporting that some of the Indian batsman were found to have bats that were too wide! Apparently Clive Lloyd (the match referee) inspected there gear before the match and found several bats exceeded the legal maximum width.

This tournamnet just gets weirder every day…

Slight correction…

According to this cricinfo story both teams had some wide bats.

Maybe the same [url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?artid=37959251] here.

If this means Ganguly gets kicked out, I thank Lloyd.

Maybe the same here.

If this means Ganguly gets kicked out, I thank Lloyd.

In regard to the issue of Rain days and no results
this is what John Buchanan the austrailan coach said

Buchanan said he would still be against the idea of reserve days for the group stage of the competition.
“If we had reserve days, we could be here for another two or three months extra and I’m not sure if that would be good for anyone. There is the logistics of moving television equipment, getting teams around and ticketing. The simple solution is rain days but I’m not sure it is the most effective one for the teams or the tournament. In cricket, historically, sometimes weather favours teams or it doesn’t – even in club competitions. There is always unfairness due to the weather but that is the state of the game, that is what we have got and all teams have to abide by the rules”

Australia are also reconsidering resting both gillespie and lee due to rain and the ineffetiveness of their spinners in such conditions

And of course, it’s now raining at Potchefstroom, with Australia 2/123 after 28 overs.

Oh, and welcome to the boards jono.

India all the way from now on!

what is with australia?
from what little i saw fo their innings
the pitch didnt seem to have to much in it
of 36 overs they should have at least pushed 200 if not 250
2-170 is just lame, no 6’s
martyn and lheman shoulda gone hard or gone home

and lefebvre seems like a very quality bowler
0-19 of his 8 is very respectable

holland are now 7-111 quite respectable ni comparison to canada against a team australia got out for under 115

It sounds as if Australia was playing to take advantage of the Duckworth Lewis system. By keeping wickets in hand they maximised the target Holland had to get.

Using your figures (170/2 after six) the DL calculator that Gyan9 posted earlier in this thread gives a total of 294 (for team two’s fifty overs). Compare this with a total of 256 for 170/5 or 286 for 190/5.

So by ensuring they didn’t lose too many wickets the Aussies made sure that Holland had no chance. At least that’s what they said on the TV here in NZ this morning…

Well, it looks like Canada’s luck is starting to desert them. It’s actually hard to score that low…even at club level I’ve rarely seen a score below 40. Somebody always manages to get an edged four, there are overthrows, no balls, etc. In ODIs, with fast outfields, I would think even poor teams could sneak 40 without difficulty. (Although I was last man in a club match in England where we dragged the score from 39/9 (!) to 53 all out.) But SL getting the runs in 4.4 overs sure isn’t going to hurt their run rate!

BigNik, I wasn’t so much calling for Bangladesh to be dropped from the World Cup (though their results don’t exactly jump off the page) rather than expressing concern that the lack of rain days could unfairly reflect on contenders’ results. WI were in a winning position against Bang; now they will have a very difficult time making it to the Super Six.

In a school game I once top scored with 8* in a total of 12 (four byes were included in the total). We were playing under 14s and due to a dearth of players they included two bowlers from their school thirds team which had finished early. They were both far too fast for us.

Over 1: 0/8 (two edges through the keeper. The bowler was too fast for him, too).
Over 2: 4/8
Over 3: 4/8
Over 4: 9/8
Over 5: 9/12
Over 5.2: 12 all out.

There was also a game of park cricket last year where we rolled them for 27 (after having them at 5/0), and were 8 down when we took first innings points.

Yeah, but that’s one-day cricket. It’s a game where the weather can play a factor in critical games (take South Africa a few years ago where an unlikely target of 22 off 7 balls was shortened to 22 off 1) and that’s a fact of life. By opening up the competition a bit more you do give the unfortunate consequence that you can drop guaranteed points, but surely it’s better for the teams to be there and getting the exposure and the experience than to leave cricket as a cliquey game played exclusively by half-a-dozen countries?

Just because a team’s not competitive now doesn’t mean it won’t be down the track. Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe and New Zealand all had long trots of uncompetitiveness down the stretch when they started to play at the top level.

This isn’t a club sport where you come in with a checkbook and recruit a competitive team immediately (or at least not yet, although a number of international sports are getting that way and England has a reputation for playing Rest-of-the-World second XIs in their team colours). You need an extended period of exposure in order to bring about competitiveness, and the World Cup’s a good way to do that without committing teams to 2-month test series walkovers.

but still…
It would have been much more exciting if they tried to maximise hollands runs by, say, scoring more runs.
The dutch showed the pitch was more than ample for big hitting, as evidenced by harvey going for 23 of his 3 overs. and the rough treatment lehmann and symonds were shown when rushing through their overs

I see your point, but that would be far too simple…

Meanwhile, off the field, Warne gets a twelve month ban and Cairns gets whacked outside a nightclub .

As the story points out, Durban isn’t renowned as a New Zealand friendly town. I think it was where a certain rugby player was accused of rape a few years ago as well.

At least the kiwis have been laying off the weed this tour I suppose.

Warne Out For A Year.

Welcome to the Straight Dope, Jono. Feel free to pop over and meet some of the Australian Dopers at our Aussie Hideaway. :smiley:

How did I miss Kiwiboy’s link :smack:

Sorry.

When is the next NZ game? And can someone tell me how NZ are looking in terms of making the Super Six? I hear lots of talk of people having to win this and lose the other but no real comparison of what exactly needs to happen for NZ to make the next round.

Oh and I think that if they were to get there, the Kiwis would be the most capable of beating the Ausies. Australia’s record against NZ isn’t really as good as it should be on paper.

kiwiboy: They had an interview with the owner of the club here on SABC news. He says the NZ players were very very drunk, and were thrown out. The fight only happened outside once they were booted out.

South Africa owns Bangladesh.