Not a single one of the WONJCTs is honest. They’re touting their BS to troll. They know it’s BS an they know what kind of reaction it will get.
You linked to something that points out what I said. You did not link to something which said what you claimed it said.
This is the first time that you have acknowledged that there was an actual attack.
Again, you are demonstrating that you don’t actually understand the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. It was the combination of the actual attack on Aug 2 and the believed attack on Aug 4 that caused LBJ to push for the resolution.
Again, there was no phony attack, and you are again demonstrating that you do not understand what happened at the Gulf of Tonkin. The Maddox genuinely believed it was under attack on Aug 4. I hate having to link dictionary definitions, but you clearly need it: Phony:
This was hardly the first time warships engaged in battle with the open ocean because of radar ghosts. See Battle of the Pips, two US battleships expended 518 14 in shells thinking they were in battle with a Japanese task force off of Kiska in 1943 during WWII. They were in fact firing at nothing.
No, a phony attack by definition is a fraudulent claim of an attack when it was known not to have happened, or a fully fraudulant false flag attack used as a pretext to start a war. The Maddox didn’t start shooting at the open ocean knowing it wasn’t under attack. The Gleiwitz Incident which was staged by the SS to create a pretext for the German invasion of Poland was a phony attack.
Most importantly, your central thesis, that anyone who questioned the official story at the time would have been denounced as a CT is utter horseshit. I don’t know how many times it needs to be told to you before it sinks in, but people did publicly question the official story and did publically doubt that the second attack had actually occurred at the time, and they were not shouted down as CTs.
Back in the olden days when the SD was on AOL, maybe once a month, the SD forum was advertised on the AOL opening page, and the MB would get flooded with noobs. They were often teens and they’d post questions we had already dealt with many times. I was a chat host back then. Eventually, I decided to do something about it, so, with some help from Tubadiva, I came up with a list of 50 Answers to Teen FAQs. Maybe some people might want to come up with some prepackaged answers to the CT/Truther questions so we could just tell these folks “Look, we’ve already talked this one to death. Click here.”
Oh, my 50 Answers to Teen FAQs? [note: some urls may NOT be current in 2014]
- Yes, you will need algebra in real life.
- Because it’s your parents’ house, unless you pay rent.
- Hungry, Angry and Gry. Yes, the third one really is gry.
- No, it’s spelled “Fletching”, and it’s the little feathers on an arrow.
- It’s in the dictionary. Try http:// www.m-w.com/ netdict.htm
- It’s in the encyclopedia. Try http:// www.altavista. com/cgi-bin/query?q=World+Book+Encyclopedia&pg=q&qe
- That’s in the SD Archives. Try http:// www.straightdope. com/columns/index.html
- Yellow Dye #5 will not make you sterile, or keep you from getting pregnant.
- Yes, they love you and are trying to protect you.
- No, he really doesn’t love you, but he is willing to have sex with you.
- Yes, you can get pregnant the first time.
- No, it won’t clear up your complexion.
- No, it won’t make you go blind or grow hair on your palms. It’s safe. But don’t
do it during study hall, OK? - No, it’s not a ghost, it’s a life sized cut-out of Ted Danson. See http:// www.snopes. com/movies/films/3menbaby.htm
- No, he probably won’t marry you if you get pregnant.
- No, Cecil rarely comes to the chats. He is a recluse, and a bit of a technophobe too.
- Sorry, you have to be 21 to be a chat host.
- No, the bullet won’t be going faster than light.
- No, the headlight beam won’t be going faster than light either.
- Yes, it makes a sound whether anyone is there to hear it or not.
- Yes, we park on driveways and drive on parkways. I don’t know why. Get over it.
- Yes, but only if you drink it INSTEAD of having sex.
- Yes, they are flammable.
- Sorry, if she says “It’s not you, it’s me.” that means it’s you.
- No, if you pop your zits, you won’t die. But don’t do it in geometry class.
- Sorry, we don’t talk about boogers.
- Yes, girls do it too, but they never talk about it. Especially with you.
- So they can talk about you.
- When they say “I’ll call you tomorrow,” that means ‘Goodbye’.
- Because in 5 years, you’ll be tired of that tattoo.
- No, it isn’t fair.
- Because it costs too much.
- Yes, they can.
- Sorry, you still have to clean your room.
- No, the size of his hand or foot has no relation.
- Yes, they ARE the boss of you.
- Because they’re your parents/sister/brother
- Sorry, but when she says '“There isn’t another guy,” there is.
- Yes, she didn’t look. But it’s still YOUR fault for leaving it up.
- Yes, normally, but not during the playoffs/super bowl/world series.
- No, cheerleaders never date members of the marching band.
- Actually, they do understand. You aren’t listening.
- Read A Brief History Of Time.
- Take her to see “Casablanca.”
- Because he’s a policeman and has a gun.
- Yes, he really is the world’s smartest human.
- Yes, you will get over it. It takes time.
- No, don’t use the Cliff Notes. Read it.
- Yes, it does get better.
- Because it’s against the law.
Good lord. I don’t think I’ve read that list in 15 years. Thanks, Jeff!
I have a pre-teen daughter. Excuse me while I go wrap her in cotton wool and a chastity belt for the next ten years.
Slut-shamer.
Regards,
Shodan
I don’t want to derail the other current 9/11 thread, but I want to know: is psychihacker (sp) the same poster who put together a model of the WTC using tongue depressors and spent God knows how long arguing about how his model showed… whatever he tried to argue?
Not quite. It was toothpicks and washers. :smack: 
His very first SDMB post had the same inane stuff about distribution of masses and the like. No new tricks for that old dog.
There used to be a “water has memory” homeopathic dipshit called tkidcharlemagne on the IMDb board. Don’t think I’ve seen him since he tried claiming that the elevator shafts were hermetically sealed.
According to the Unified Theory of the Crank, this phenomenon is known as crank magnetism.
Being banned from Mothering is one of my prouder accomplishments. Peggy O’Mara is an evil little woman with no integrity.
You’d used that term in another post, and I almost wrote to ask you about it. Thank you for this link! Fascinating (if slightly nauseating) stuff. Naively, I would have thought that CT followers would be “single issue” enthusiasts; the idea that they like to subscribe to several theories all at the same time is an eye-opener.
Thank you Miller and you’re welcome Andros. 
And yet your join date is April, 2013. Something is not adding up. :dubious:
What did you do, post a peer-reviewed paper?
It is difficult- some years ago I started a thread on the USS Liberty, the topic was new to me. I hadn’t searched but the topic had already been discussed quite robustly several times. (I would add I didn’t propose any extreme theories). However, I was not a new poster and had not come here to explore a particular theory.
I believe the problem arrives with drive by posters who drop their CT’s, as a new member, and really aren’t interested in a response that disagrees with what they wish to believe. And the members here have seen the similar arguments time and again and understandably don’t wish to rehash them.
I have no answer that would not involve a lot of work for the Mods such as comparing number of previous posts to CT etc