A double standard that bugs me (strong language ahead)

Oo-er. :slight_smile:

Since you’re free, I’ve got a gentleman here that needs to have his inside leg measured. mr LoadedDog, if you please?

Dammit, I’m using up my quota of eek smilies.

Funny thing is, Coldie, I really have worked for the Grace Bros. department store (the Aussie one, that is).

I vote for “Vegemite-Eating Twat”. That stuff is Offensivvvvve. :slight_smile:

Theloadeddog, you’ve inspired me. Though I’ve never heard it used before, I’m going to dedicate myself to finding ways to work " Who’s a silly monkey, then?" into conversations this week. It’ll be one those expressions like my brother’s favorite “freaky deaky” that I won’t even need to know the origin to use and abuse. Thanks!

Oh, go to Belgium.

I wasn’t aware that twat was a problem, to be honest.

C*** bothers me because I hear it most often used as an extreme put down of a woman, reducing her to only that part of her body. Used correctly in context, and not as an insult, I don’t necessarily object to it.

I’ve been known to use the word dick from time to time to describe some one, but don’t see it as a particular problem (much like “twat”); not to mention that one of my very good friends’ father’s name is “Dick.” Not Richard. Dick.

Cock, OTOH, I use in two places. Bed, and erotica.

Or when talking about chickens to Opal.

Words, of course, have the power that we give them. Cunt always left me feeling drained. Hollow. It was some time before I recognized it. Loss of essence. I still enjoy the word, but I do deny it my essence.

Gotta watch that purity of essence, Drastic.

It’s funny isn’t it? “Fuck” gets more and more airplay and gradually gets more acceptance. I feel quite comfortable saying “fuck” amongst friends and (most) family. “Cunt” on the other hand… seems soooo much more vulgar, I generally can’t say it. I certainly don’t say it naturally, I even find it difficult to write. This isn’t because I see it as any kind of put-down on women (I hear it reffering more to men than women), but more because it just doesn’t have much social acceptance and I try to be a socially acceptable kinda guy :slight_smile:

Of course I still feel quite comfortable calling a Civil Aviation Authority guy in New Zealand, who’s name is Michael Hunt, “Mike” :slight_smile: (no shit, there really is such an employee working for the NZ CAA, and yes… he is).

Then you can always use the ol’ cupid stunt thing.

I’m not sure how relevant this is, but I thought some of you’d enjoy it. My mother, my cousin, her husband, and my grandmother were playing a board game where the object was to see how many words you could make from a given set of letters. Points were given out for each word you had on your list that no one else had on theirs. Needless to say, cunt was one of those words. My mother and my cousin both saw it at the same time, and started giggling because there was no way they could write it down, not, at least, with my grandmother sitting there. My cousin’s husband didn’t even bother taking his life into his hands that way. When the time came to read off their lists, not only did my grandmother, who is very upper-middle-class respectable British have that word, she’d apparently quietly written it down before by mother and cousin saw it and started giggling. I think this points more toward the extremely competitive streak on Mum’s side of the family than the generationally respectable aspects of the word “cunt”, but I thought it was funny.

Getting back to the OP, I’m not noted for swearing much (for a programmer, anyway), but I do consider cunt to be word used only when you don’t care what the consequences will be. It’s not fair, but I suspect there’s still a lot of the old double standard about women’s sexuality out there.

As for you, ultrafilter, suck my pancreas!
CJ

Bonus points to anyone who recognizes “May you never have a cranky pancreas”.

Tailbones are rather useless.

If you’re gonna call somebody a tailbone, do it right and call them a coccyx.

Well, this thread has turned out all cute friendly and no one here is upset anymore. Which sucks because I still am, goddammit! So let me just say my piece and then I’ll leave everyone alone.

ahem.

“Cunt” is a bad word, like “fuck” or “cock.” It is true that depending on the situation it can be the strongest of these bad words, and therefore also the most satisfying. However, it is still just another bad word.

The thing that gets my panties in a bunch about the argument over “cunt” is that many of those who are offended by it to the point that they would ask someone to stop using the word seem to feel that way due to the fact that the word refers to female genitalia specifically. The natural extension of this argument is that the use of the word “cunt” as an insult is somehow an attack on all womanhood everywhere.

It’s just another word, albeit a very bad one. If it sticks in your craw due to its strength and you prefer to write it “c***” when you have to write it at all, I can understand. But to avoid the word for political reasons strikes me as silly at best.

There, I’m finished. And I really do feel much better! Now, by all means, on with the niceness, and count me in. :smiley:

How the fuck am I supposed to talk about my c**t, even in a legitimate context, cocksucker, if I can’t even use the word for it?

It also depends somewhat on the gender of the speaker.

For instance, to the average man the pejoratives cunt, twat, etc. mean very much the same thing: “She is a disagreeable person who I wouldn’t fuck unless I was real drunk and she would magically disappear before I woke up”

Used a simple nominative, without an implicit perjorative intent, it means the same in all instances: the object of all desire and veneration. So to speak.

The female is more nuanced, and discriminating. (You can only get this by spying on women who are drinking and don’t know any men are listening. Be prepared to have all you illusions about dainty feminine behavior dashed. But good!)

For instance:

“She is a bitch”

I currently find this person disagreeable, but if she compliments my shoes I would likely cut her some slack

“She is a cunt”

She has a lot more sex than I do, and her partners are either several and multiple, all revolting, or one in particular that she’d better back off from right now if she knows whats good for her.

“She is a sow”

She is a sow. Oddly, this seems to be as bad as it gets.

Color me confused - “Cunt” bothers you because it reduces a woman to only that part of her body, but “dick” is o.k.? How is it that “dick” does not reduce a man to only that part of HIS body?

Or is it NOT o.k., but you use it anyway?

Hrrm can’t you just sidestep this whole issue and start calling people “Moldy Jizz mops”?

Maybe…but depending on the girl’s hygiene, couldn’t that term be just as gender specific?