A picture only tells you so much. What it does not tell you is that Terry had not moved from that position on the goalline since the ball hit the crossbar and in fact the keeper moved under him, not the other way around. It was the keeper’s own fault he could not jump - Terry was only ever watching and going for the ball.
Besides, as Alan Hansen said, it’s impossible to jump for a header without raising your arms, and as he was there first, the keeper should not have been trying to occupy the same piece of grass as him. Besides, if a Scot thinks it was a goal, that’s got to tell you something, right?
Eh, you have to laugh, don’t you? The papers, of course, are doing their nuts about ‘cheating Swiss Ref’, while simultaneously complaining that he inititally gave the goal, and then changed his mind after consulting the linesman. For a cheat he seems to be a bit confused, don’t you think?
It was a tough decision, but goalkeepers always get the benefit of the doubt with these things. He was getting obstructed by Terry, who also had his arm over his shoulder. Whether Terry was doing it deliberately, or however fairly won Campbell’s header was is irrelevant. It’s a foul on the keeper. Tough, I know, but fair. I’m sure they same rule would have applied had it been at the other end.
And as for the penalty spot; the newspapers say that England had complained about them before the start of the game. So Beckham must have known already that they were soft. Can a player of his class not cope with that? After that, everyone was kicking from the same place. Indeed, if anyone was disadvantaged it was Portugal. Because they were taking their pentalies second, they were always kicking from the spot that the corresponding English player had churned up.
I’m afraid the English are looking like rather poor losers just now. They played well, were unlucky, but Portugal were the better side and deserved to win. Bleating about imaginary injustices and soft penalty spots isn’t going to change that.
I don’t think it matters who got there first. Terry did not have control of the ball and he was preventing the keeper from reaching it. That’s obstruction. Otherwise what’s to stop a team deliberately boxing a keeper in at every corner kick?
Bloody ribafria* eating oldest allies and not cowarding out of wars like their neighbours monkeys.
Crap ref - check
Good goal disallowed (last minute winner by Scumbell - we’ve been here before remember) - Check
England folding under pressure in a shoot-out - check
These are all true but we really shouldn’t forget that we spent 75% of the game in our own half and a lot of that in our own box. The, ever so slightly, better team won.
We have to accept that being in the top 8 european football nations is a true reflection of how good we actually are. Our FIFA ranking is about 10th.
Last night was the only time all year that I’ve been happy to see Postigia playing. And then the little sardine-munching no-mark scores and takes THAT penalty. You can bet your bottom dollar he’ll be shit again for us next year.
I really couldn’t care less who wins it now, but if pushed would probably plump for the czechs as they have played the best football.
*This is a fine goat milk cheese that is made with peppercorns in order to add some zest to it.
It just proves that the bloody Strathdon Blue eating, sheep-shagging, face painted blue monkeys are just as blind as the bloody Stilton eating, stiff-upper-lip having, “god save the queen” shouting monkeys.
I still agree with the other posters who say that Terry clearly obstructed the goalie. Also, blaming the referee (as most of the English papers, and my English colleagues here in the office are doing) is bad form. At least we blamed our “bondscoach” even though the referee was even worse in our match against the Czechs.
Referee - nothing wrong with him. John Terry fouled Ricardo when Sol scored. JOHN TERRY. Understand? If in doubt these things always go in the keepers favour.
Portugal were by far the better team.
England got a lucky lucky goal then sat in their own half for the rest of the game. Don’t you realise that negative italian tactics don’t work?
Here’s what the English will moan about as they’re such sore losers.
It was losing Wayne Rooney after half an hour wot dun it
It was the spot wot dun it.
It was the ref wot dun it.
It was our one days less rest that dun it.
Only Peter Reid had the balls last night to say that England were second best the whole game and didn’t deserve it.
There’s a lot of happy people in my office today.
But in saying all that I would have liked to see England go through. I know the way the media pumps them up so that they either win or don’t wome home but this time I thought they they might just do it.
But in the 1/4, as well as the game against France, I got the impression that the midfielders were just lost. The defense kept on pumping the ball out of the English box only for it to be picked up by Portugal who attacked and attacked.
When the ball was passed out of defense to the feet of an English player a good attacking move was made and the sefense got a minute or two to breath.
Ponster, where did you go that you needed to pay 10 euros to get in? Just curious since I’m also wondering what you call a large sports bar in Paris. I would LOVE to know a large sports bar in Paris, but I only know a few English/Irish pubs with TV’s that often televise matches. A REAL sports bar has 20+ TV’s and about 10 different games on at the same time from a wide variety of sports. Well, that’s only my opinion, but man, that would be nice.
An incredible game. IMHO, Portugal deserved to win. They played a very positive game. I don’t know why England went into a defensive mode in the second half with a slim lead. (Sven spent too much time in Italy, perhaps?) Though a valiant effort by England, nonetheless.
Interesting nobody mentioned Ronaldo’s header which looked like it might have crossed the goal line before Cole cleared.
The same thing that is to stop a keeper deliberately boxing himself in so he can whine to the ref and get a goal disallowed.
Ricardo did not jump up and sideways and get blocked out. He moved in under Terry, then jumped up. I watched the match. I also watched the fifteen-odd replays we got of the scene from every angle they had a camera on. Terry was only in Ricardo’s way because Ricardo had moved into a position where Terry was in the way after Terry jumped.
Please, would you bloody Stilton eating football monkeys stop blaming the referee already? Now hear this: IT’S NOT THE REFEREE’S FAULT YOU LOST!!!
You should have continued attacking even after Rooney went off. You should have tried scoring the 2-0 instead of defending the 1-0 for 87 minutes. You should have filed an official protest with the UEFA, the UN and Amnesty International regarding the conditions of the penalty spot. You should blame your coach and his wonky Italian girlfriend. You should blame Victoria Beckham for making her husband wear the wrong color garters. Most of all you should blame your own damn team, but NOT THE REFEREE. It’s not his fault you haven’t one anything since 1966 (and even that was doubtful, since quite a few people say Hust’s first goal in extra time never crossed the line).
We did file a complaint with UEFA about the penalty spot before the match, as it happens.
I’m a little tired of hearing this crap, too. Four minus one is still more than two: England would have won without Hurst’s first goal. The only difference it makes is whether or not Hurst was the only man to score a hat-trick in a World Cup Final.
My condolences to the Britons, but this once again shows that national teams in football do get a huge boost in their level when playing at home. So, I would not underestimate Portugal.
Another nail-biter. Hats off to Greece! The match was a bit listless. Great defending by the Greeks. So many world-class tacklings (or maybe there were so may lazy passes by the French?)
Un. Be. Lie. Va. Ble. :eek:
France, you’ve disappointed for two tournaments in a row now. Is the reign of superiotity truly over now, or will the stars of this team regain their momentum in time for 2006?
And Dex, you processed cheese eating liberator monkey, you. Coming in here to spoil a good European feud. For shame.
Actually, spot on - it was getting a tad tense in here, what with all the intra-UK tribal wars flaring up. I expect we can at least keep discussions civil here - should anyone want to gloat about a particular nation losing, I suppose the Pit’s the best place for it - not that I’m recommending such a course of action to begin with, mind you.
So, how typical, eh. The Eurotrash is bickering, and an American has to break it up again.
