A man is a testosterone damaged woman

[StreetFighter2Ryu]

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/08/02/men-testosterone-damaged-women/amp/

The problem with men, as a group, as a type of organism, as a subset of humans, is that at various points along the way on their journey from the female template on which all humans are built biologically, they have been altered in ways that make them dangerous assholes. Even when we try to reduce the male-female difference as a society, men who do not willingly participate in that often end up being fairly nasty, dangerous beasts; they may be rapists, they may be batterers, they may be some other thing. They break our efforts to have an egalitarian peaceful world. In a way, they are broken. They are damaged, if you will. Some of that damage is facilitated by what you may know of as testosterone (a word that stands in for androgens).

Greg Laden is a biological anthropologist and science communicator. His research has covered North American prehistoric and historic archaeology and African archaeology and human ecology. He is an OpenSource and OpenAccess advocate. Greg’s wife, Amanda, is a High School biology teacher, his daughter Julia is a world traveler and his son Huxley is 2.

So, Testosterone damages a man and makes him an asshole? It amazes me how people can come up with crap like this and call it “science”. What do you all think about this?

[TriPolar]

It’s some guys blog. Sounds about right bloggishly.

[pulykamell]

Remind me, why do we care what some guy with a blog said five years ago?

[Budget_Player_Cadet]

I have found the ongoing conversation about “testosterone damaged brains” to be somewhat less than interesting, full of distraction, very often little more than troll fodder and a huge waste of time. I’ve been asked to explain, to apologize, to produce copious documentation to back up may amazing claims. There are, however, only two reactions to my comment that I’m interested in. One: You go “Ouch” and put your hand up to your eye because I just poked you there. Two: You go “heh, that was funny.” All other reactions are really your problem, not mine. Sorry.

From the quoted blog. Greg Laden appears to simply be trolling.

[truthSeeker2]

In every country, the average life expectancy of women is greater than that of men by 2-3 years. IIRC, Men die more in 15-24 age-group and in 55-64 age group giving them less life expectancy than women. Afaik, only difference between men and women is the hormones.

[WordMan]

@StreetFighter2Ryu

What do you all think about this?

By all means, please start this discussion.

As for the content, I swear, the biggest pain about the Internet is that it documents all the shit we knew Humans had in our brains. What’s that line? “Better to stay quiet and have them suspect you’re a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

Before, that dude woulda just keep a journal. A weird journal.

[Darren_Garrison]

@Budget_Player_Cadet

From the quoted blog. Greg Laden appears to simply be trolling.

Greg Laden.

[Dr.Crap]

Papa was an asshole and he used to say that being a woman was a man’s job.

[QuickSilver]

@truthSeeker2

In every country, the average life expectancy of women is greater than that of men by 2-3 years. IIRC, Men die more in 15-24 age-group and in 55-64 age group giving them less life expectancy than women. Afaik, only difference between men and women is the hormones.

(bolding mine)

Nothing like the purity of argument made from abject ignorance on the subject, eh?

[DSeid]

FWIW my personal suspicion is that one of StreetFighter2Ryu’s other nom de keyboards is “Greg Landen” … But hey, welcome to the SD. Next time try to bring something more interesting.

[AHunter3]

Wasn’t this Valerie Solanas’s premise?

[TriPolar]

@AHunter3

Wasn’t this Valerie Solanas’s premise?

Maybe her behavior was a result of taking testosterone to demonstrate the effect.

Valerie Solanas, dangerous female asshole.

[Chronos]

Testosterone certainly causes some problems in some contexts. But in other contexts, it helps. And I’m not sure how meaningful it is to claim that males are a variant on a basic female template: It’s like asking whether zebras are white with black stripes or black with white stripes.

[truthSeeker2]

@QuickSilver

(bolding mine)

Nothing like the purity of argument made from abject ignorance on the subject, eh?

Trump won…It’s OK. You don’t have to behave like a mad man all the time.

[truthSeeker2]

@Chronos

Testosterone certainly causes some problems in some contexts. But in other contexts, it helps. And I’m not sure how meaningful it is to claim that males are a variant on a basic female template: It’s like asking whether zebras are white with black stripes or black with white stripes.

Right.

[QuickSilver]

@truthSeeker2

Trump won…It’s OK. You don’t have to behave like a mad man all the time.

So ignorance is somehow justified because its poster child managed to squeeze his lying fat orange ass into the oval office?

[octopus]

@truthSeeker2

In every country, the average life expectancy of women is greater than that of men by 2-3 years. IIRC, Men die more in 15-24 age-group and in 55-64 age group giving them less life expectancy than women. Afaik, only difference between men and women is the hormones.

What a difference an X or Y makes: sex chromosomes, gene dose, and...

Chromosome and hormones. Furthermore, where does the discrepancy in hormones originate from?

[Darren_Garrison]

@Chronos

And I’m not sure how meaningful it is to claim that males are a variant on a basic female template

Two X chromosomes, no Y, female. One X chromosome, no Y, damaged female. Sounds accurate to me.

[Lemur866]

So…the OP felt the need to join our board just so he could alert us about the stupid and wrong things some random anonymous moron said on his blog.

Well, there you go. I’m glad this was brought to our attention. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.

[jz78817]

sounds like he started from a conclusion and worked backwards from it.