Shepherds pie 
…so act NOW and get free installation on a new home security system!
Sorry Jesus, I got Safe Touch.
Which is appropriate, because if I wanted an unsafe touch, I’d join your church.
Splitters!
That’s okay; I’ll make up for about eight other guys, and keep the averages high. Heck, I covet my neighbor’s car every time I see it! (Beautiful vintage Ford Mustang. Sigh…)
Has he a maidservant? Has she a really nice ass? I’ll save a place for you, if I get to Hell first.
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” - Romans 3:23 Jesus’ death was not in vain
So you’re just going to spout Scripture and not actually try to engage in discussion.
Actually most people are far superior to God in everything but power, judging from the way his followers describe him. Smarter, more moral, better people in general.
I must admit I’m completely lost as to how all this works. So Jesus died for the sins we’ve all committed, but where does that get us?
1/ Does this mean we now get into heaven despite our sins? Was Jesus kind of like a friend who pays your fine for you, so you avoid jail without paying yourself?
2/ If not, why wasn’t Jesus death in vain? Was his death as if he paid our fine for us but now we have to pay it again ourselves, and if so what was the point of Jesus paying?
3/ Was Jesus death kind of like a part payment? Was it a bit like he paid $50 but the fine was $150 so we still have to pay the rest?
4/ Or is it sort of like Jesus paid our fine for us, but if we don’t agree to accept that he’s a really great guy and totally accept he like got us out of a complete jam, man, he can get a refund and we still have to cop the fine?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Tell me more about this Jesus person. For I am but young, forty years in age, and I have never heard of this person of whom you speak. In other aspects of life I have been quite lucky, having been chosen by NASA to be their first Mars astronaut, where I have remained in seclusion since I was a wee child. This explains my woeful naivete, which I hope you will assuage by informing me of this interesting-sounding new person.
Depends on who you ask. Matthew relates his last words as despair, abandoned by faith and dying for naught. Maybe Jesus didn’t get the memo. Other Gospels tell a much different story, but I’ll leave off here to politely avoid spoilers.
For my two nanobits, Matthew (Matthew 27:46) tells the better story, without the despair of death, where is the sacrifice?
Been there, done that, read The Book. Do you ever converse with people, or do you just talk at them?
Any classification system with a manageable number of groups is going to have that issue. The folks you describe (what some people call Apatheists) would be Non-Theists under the study’s scheme.
Which isn’t to suggest the study is definitive. Indeed, its authors acknowledge it isn’t. But it does strike me as an interesting and useful way to look at diversity and disagreement within the atheist-agnostic community, which was the issue it seemed to me Slithy Tove had raised.
Are sins are atoned for once we accept Jesus as our savior and repent for our sins. It’s as simple as that.
OK so aren’t you at option 2/ then? If we have to do saviour accepting and repenting thing to atone, for what did Jesus die? Wasn’t it in vain?
He died so God could hear/accept our repentance.
God’s all powerful, but required killing his son to get his hearing back?
He didn’t really die, just his earthly body. He went back to where he came from. That’s some sacrifice right there.
As I said:
Claiming like jesusguy are making are an example of what I mean; they make God out to be either an idiot or a lunatic, and either way not a benevolent entity at all. After all, what would you think of your boss if he/she killed their son and said “There! Now I can forgive you for that screw up last week!”