A moonwalk is an extinction-level event? How dumb can Democrats.com be? Non-political

Regardless of your feelings for President Bush opening up the moon for a commerical venture, the following is not a rational reason to oppose it:

I quote from democrats.com

I’m sorry. I can only assume that an orangutan got ahold of a keyboard and started banging. You’ve heard the phrase “Environmentalist wacko”? Apparently, this is him.

Personally, I think it’s great that we’re going back to the moon, but even if you don’t, sending a mission to the moon is not an extinction-level event. It just isn’t. Sorry.

I especially like the “delicate graitational interplay” part myself. Of course you realize that this only lends creedence to the “moon hoax” idea: if the “delicate graitational interplay” is so sensitive, how could we possibly have landed there without it spiralling out of control?

What a maroon.

Fenris

Hey, they brought back 800 pounds of moon rocks–you didn’t notice the way it disrupted all of Earth’s weather patterns, not to mention being directly responsible for the Arab oil embargo of 1973?

And Watergate, too.

Word.

I can’t imagine the scale of modification needed to affect the gravitational interaction between the Earth and Moon. Not to mention the question of where we would get the raw materials required to erect structures on the moon massive enough to change its mass in any significant manner. Maybe if we crashed a few hundred asteroids into it, we’d have something going.

The moon’s mass is 7.35 x 10[sup]22[/sup] kg. That’s 73,500,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg. 73 sextillion kilograms. How much mining were going to do again?

I hate it when people just pull "facts"out of their asses. If you don’t know what adding or subtracting mass to or from the Moon will do, that doesn’t mean you should make crap up and spread ignorance! Do some research, for fuck’s sake!

“Delicate gravitational interplay” my arse…

In other words, to change the moon’s mass by 1/1000th of 1%, we’d have to add or subtract 810 trillion tons of material. We’d better get started.

Remember Praxis!

someone teach them how to Google how many TONS of micrometeroidshit the earth and moon daily. It AIN’T a closed-system dynamic.

Didn’t you watch the latest movie version of H.G.Well’s Time Machine? (Directed by ol’ H.G.'s great grandson or some such.) If we dig holes in the moon, IT WILL EXPLODE!!! And 800,000 years from now, everyone will be maori and the women will dress in sheer, shape hugging outfits, sans bra…

Ok, I know there is a downside here somewhere…Oh yeah. That Seven Up spokesguy somehow manages to survive as a computer simulation. Gah.

Someone must have watched the remake of “The Time Machine” once too often. Of course once is once too often.

Without commenting on the assinine statement that got this thread started (oops, too late) I’d just like to say this

tickled me all out of proportion. It’s a little bitty typo. Missed a space. Yet it made me cackle. I think I need help. :smiley:

[sub]I have this image of Steven King in Creepshow as Jordy Verrill, doing his ignorant hick schtick.[/sub]

Goddamn Michael Jackson. I always knew he was gonna destroy the planet.

Actually, Duck Duck Goose, they didn’t bring back 800 pounds of moon rocks. That’s part of the ongoing moon hoax. The amazing thing is that the conspirators caused the 1973 oil embargo and Watergate to lend credibility to the moon hoax. Imagine how much more quickly we would have discovered NASA’s deception if we weren’t waiting on gas lines and watching impeachment hearings.

And don’t get me started on the timing of the whole Moinca Lewinsky/Bill Clinton thing compared to the release of the FOX moon hoax special.

I think “no scientist today” translates as “I called a couple scientists about this today, and none of them would talk to me.”

Okay, I looked up Praxis, and I still don’t remember it, but maybe that’s because I didn’t go to UPenn.

http://caster.ssw.upenn.edu/~restes/praxis.html

What?

a bad space bar cracked you up? Not the unusual sight of "ain’t"and “closed-system dynamic” in the same sentence?

Praxis=Klingon moon that exploded due to overmining; from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

A reference for us geeks.

Of course, weren’t they ‘digging’ by setting off underground nuclear blasts (not that I’m agreeing with the quote from democrats.com, just making a point about the movie)?

How many NYC subway rats would need to be released on the moon to eat enough cheese to create such a mass loss?? <insert own punchline here>

Just for the record: TransOrbital’s plans are to send an unmanned probe to land on the moon. It’s quite an accomplishment, to be sure, but it’s hardly what most people think of when they hear “we’re going back to the moon.”

I’d also like to point out that 810 trillion tons (the amount of material needed to change the moon’s mass (yes, I know I’m mixing measurements of weight and mass, let’s just assume that tons is measured at 1 G) by 1/1000th of 1%) is roughly equivalent to 140 million times the mass of the Great Pyramid of Khufu. So we’ve either got to truck 140,000,000 Great Pyramids up to the moon or excavate them from the moon to change the mass by .00001. Which I doubt would make a hell of a lot of difference in the Earth-Moon gravitational dynamic, which, incidentally, has been easily calculable since, oh, say, Johannes Kepler figured some stuff out in about 1619. And I’m pretty sympathetic to the Democratic party ideology. Yet, junk science gets me hot under the collar.

Why didn’t the moon spiral out of control or go off on a tangent when we crashed the Lunar Prospector into it, by the way? Certainly it couldn’t be because it’s 126 kg mass was utterly negligible compared to the mass of the moon, could it?

Hell, the more I think about this “article” the pissier I’m getting. I’ve got to go lie down and put a paper bag over my head or something.