He hasn’t even acknowledged unleashing the hurricanes.
Turns out, not even that. 
Professional nutcase Pat Robertson has weighed in.
If someone had been suspicious of the guy and had called the cops to check on him, couldn’t the guy have simply hidden the illegal stuff from their view? Without a warrant, it’s not like they could have tossed his hotel room. So they ask him to explain the long bag and he whips out one of long guns he’s legally allowed to have. The officers ask him why he’s carrying it around and he says he’s aiming to sell it. The officers then thank for his time and leave.
59 people still get killed.
I don’t believe mass massacres of the past, such as Colfax when 300 gunmen were riding, however horrible, fall into the parameters of mass shootings recognized today occasionally by 2 people but more often by a singleton.
Nor in those times were the victims passers-by, chosen by chance. They were targeted by design.
Who agrees that nuclear weapons, bombs, etc. should be freely legal and openly sold?
Frankly when an item is capable of mass murder it should be heavily controlled. Your hobbies mean shit to me at that point.
Rachel Maddow covered that on her show. There is a gun show in Las Vegas practically every week. It wouldn’t have seemed unusual.
Would it surprise you to know that the country in Europe with the most guns per head also has the most gun deaths per head?
And would you care to hazard a guess as to which country I refer?
Clue: think cheese, cows, Heidi and nazi gold.
Do any conservatives or pro-gun folks object to the possibility of considering whether cranks and bump-stocks and other means of turning semi-auto weapons into full-auto capable weapons be made illegal? If not, why not, considering that full-auto weapons made after ~1984 (IIRC) are already illegal (maybe with a very few exceptions, but I can’t recall the exact details)?
Bavaria?
[Preemptive Strike]Because you can’t guarantee that this gun-grabing measure will stop there-If something like this is allowed it will only encourage others to pass more restrictive laws.
And cranks and bump-stocks don’t kill people. People kill people![/PS]
What would be the time frame ? I won’t take anything less than 30 years.
If this guy had been a Muslim or a naturalized citizen of brown complexion, the same people who are calling for “prayer” would be calling for a total ban on immigration and worse. But since it’s a white on white crime, I guess it’s just another day in America.
In any case, it’s absolutely time to get political, but I would reluctantly agree with conservatives and submit that it’s not just time to talk about guns only. I absolutely agree that guns are necessary part of the conversation, but the overall theme here is how do we get America to become a less violent society? It’s going to require more than just praying to get America to stop worshiping at the altar of violence.
Apparently, this sort of reasonable approach to citizen ownership of weapons of mass destruction (yes, that includes semi-automatic rifles) is the reason that half of Americans fucking hate the other half. Expect the slaughter to continue unabated. 'Murica!!!
And I think we can safely dispense with the idea that more firearms, open carry laws, and vigilantes can prevent these kinds of massacres. The entire audience of 23,000 could have been armed with automatic weapons and the death toll would have been the same, and probably higher with people in darkness shooting at each other. Not a single solitary life would have been saved. In fact a society in which everyone is armed would simply allow armed lunatics to blend into the landscape more easily. Do we want to live in a society in which everyone has to wear body armor before we leave the house and go to work in the morning? What does civilized society look like in the 21st Century – everyone looking like UN peacekeepers?
It’s that we can’t have the conversation anymore, and the right wing in America has seen to it that this is the state of political discourse now. It’s the realization among those on the left and in the center that nothing will change because every time someone proposes talking about political issues like guns, terrorism, or anything else, the message gets distorted with trollery, memes, and blithering on talk radio.
“An armed society is a polite society”.
Adding to this, perhaps semi-auto triggers could be designed (and required) to make even garage modification cranks/bump-stocks impossible – something like springs/levers that make it physically impossible to move the trigger faster than a finger could. Is this objectionable to anyone?
This brings up an interesting logical/philosophical dilemma: suppose, say, a dark movie theater shooting, with 75 moviegoers and 1 carbine-armed shooter. What is the ideal number of CCWs for the moviegoers to minimize the death toll, supposing a range of competence and coolness-under-fire from experienced professional to anxious idiot. At some number of CCW armed moviegoers, there would be no way to identify which is the “enemy” shooter and which are “friendly” shooters, and I think it’s reasonable to believe the death toll would increase. Perhaps the ideal is a single CCW holder, with experience and a cool head, and everyone else can stay on the ground. But with every additional CCW holder I think an element of chaos is added that could greatly increase the chance of more death, especially since some of those holders may not be cool-headed or experienced. And thus there’s no way to know how many CCW holders are in the audience, and therefore whether bringing your own CCW will add to the danger or reduce the danger.
The technology is obviously available to make guns safer. It’s insane that there’s greater security preventing anybody from using my iPhone than there is any random gun.
Fingerprint sensors are available that restrict who can operate cars, why can’t this be incorporated for guns? Want to buy a gun? Great, the gun will only work if your fingerprints activate it.
Right there you eliminate dozens of deaths each year from kids finding Daddy’s loaded gun and killing their brother etc. Somebody steals your gun? No worries, it can’t shoot anybody without your fingerprints.
There’s really no good reason not to implement this.