My thoughts are with all of the families that senselessly lost a loved one.
Dancing on the graves, pure and simple. And gun grabbers distorting the news to do the dancing.
"Initial reports on social media appear to have shown that lone-wolf shooter Stephen Paddock used a high-caliber automatic weapon in the the Las Vegas shooting. In footage shared of the attack scores of rounds of ammunition can be heard going off in a matter of seconds.
Such weapons were previously prohibited under the 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban which expired in 2004. Several lawmakers have attempted to renew the ban, coming closest, but still failing, after the Newtown school shooting in 2012."
Pure lying and distortion. 1994 law had nothing to do with automatic weapons, which have been essentially banned for 30 years.
Well, we’ve had 338 “crazy one off lone wolf attacks” so far this year in the USA.
Last year there were 477.
Their definition is three or more people shot in one event.
These shootings now almost never get on the front page and seldom make even section B of national papers.
Please. Right wingers would be masturbating like motherfuckers if the shooter had been Muslim, as if that would justify their Islamophobia.
Of course. Lying and distortion are their go-to tactics.
Like the OP, who thinks anyone is saying this involved an exercise of the Second Amendment:
The weapon used is already illegal, and that ban is consistent with the Second Amendment (cites on request).
Idiot posturing.
That’s nice, but just because your car has an airbag, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t wear a seatbelt, and just because you’re wearing a seatbelt, that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t fix the roads, or teach people how to drive.
Security - proper security - takes a holistic approach. It involves looking at a large number of factors and taking them all into account. The outer circle of defense, and the most important one, is always prevention. If you get past that, you have intelligence - finding out ahead of time who might be a risk and stopping them before they make their move. Its only at the very center, will you find a guy with a gun, and he’s only needed when the outer circles have failed.
So yeah, an armed guard is never the first circle of defense. But it doesn’t hurt to have one around if the other circles fail.
Thanks for starting this thread. After picking myself up off the floor this morning, those were my thoughts, too. Now if only your OP had worked-in the obscene media coverage… ugh.
We have a campaign against drunk driving. Most people agree with these. But let someone challenge your precious, fucking firearms and you get your delicate, little feelings hurt. Boo hoo.
Now don’t be confusing them with facts and reality. They cab’t handle that sort of stuff.
Thank you for your excellent whataboutism post. Whataboutism is about as wankeriffic as it gets.
Some old same old. “We can’t do anything about guns because there are other ways to kill people”. “OMG Swimming pools!” “Waaaaah! What about knives?” Want to kill a bunch of people quickly, you need a gun.
Making a note of this remark for the next time you complain about political issues related to mass murder committed by someone who is not a white American gun enthusiast.
Lying and distortion are their go-to tactics…and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.
What are the go-to tactics for madmam shooters, pray tell?
Illegal doesn’t mean what you think. I can go down the aisles here at work and find probably half a dozen folks with full auto weapons at home. Yes, they have FFLs. But that makes no difference if the silicon switch inside their head gets switched to overload
Not even in the same ballpark. True wankeriffic is when you use a tragedy to make a political point and ignore the victims except to use them to keep score for new records and such. That’s so far beyond the pale it’s hard to believe, but then here are the other 'dopers of like mind to come in and join the circle jerk.
The point of my whataboutism is that, as a society, we choose the risks we collectively take, and that events like this are part of that. By allowing guns we know some crazy motherfucker like this is going to go off the deep end sometime and do things like this. When it happens, though, folks like you crawl out from under the rocks or out of the woodwork to try and use it to score political points. It’s pretty sickening. You didn’t even bother, in a Pit thread, to talk about the asshole who murdered and hurt all those people because, frankly, it was the GUNS that were the root cause and you wanted to use those deaths to make your point.
Well, that’s a nice strawman you have there. 
The funny thing is, you are completely clueless about what my point was or is, what my stance on guns are, or what I’m even talking about, but you THINK you know. Hilarious. Anyway, go back to the wankfest. The OP needs your support on this critical issue and your stroking of the guy next to you will be much appreciated.
Or a truck.
If someone’s walking around with an illegal fully automatic weapon, thanks to laws allowing open carry pretty much everywhere, how many people will be able to tell, on sight, that it’s not a legal semi-automatic weapon?
But because this particular fully automatic weapon is illegal, assuming that’s the case, somehow this has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. Nice hairsplitting, counselor!
I would note that this was at a Casino which handles literally millions of dollars a day (if not per hour) and has over 3,300 rooms, so I would think Security (and easy access by said security to weapons) was probably in-place; heck, we may find out in the coming days/hours that they did much of the heavy lifting in I.D.'ing the room and individual for the cops.
Still early in the investigation…not that it’s ever stopped Americans from being Olympic Champions in the “Jumping to Conclusions” event…
Please. This is not the time to be talking about gun violence.
I suggest we talk about racial inequality instead.
Well, at least the victims can be comforted by the knowledge that they weren’t killed with a legal weapon.
Or a plane. A CNN report says he had a private pilots license. :eek: