This thread is a veritable font of Gaudere’s Law in action.
I am quite sure that you meant to say “hop”, indicating that one hops, much like a bunny rabbit on it’s way to deliver chocolate. Please spell check all posts before posting, or I will have to take up some sort of complaint with the administration for jerkish behaviour on your part.*
*REPORTED!
You should probably be pitting Tarantula for being such an asshole rather than for any grammar mistakes on his part. There’s little that would justify a post in GQ that consists entirely of calling another poster an idiot and his post bullshit. Certainly a minor grammar error doesn’t fit the bill.
I shall never again attempt to defend someone’s grammar* or punctuation. Clearly the comma to which sugaree objected was accidental, rather than a stylistic choice.
- Or their gammar either.
As usual in grammar debates, people fail to take into account the regional differences in the use of the English language. For example, regarding the use of who or that with a human antecedent, Bryan Garner’s A Dictionary of Modern American Usage has this to say:
The standard dictionary of English usage, Fowler’s Modern English Usage (third edition), edited by R.W. Burchfield, is, as usual, somewhat more prescriptive:
We should probably give Tarantula the benefit of the doubt on this issue, and assume that he or she prefers the more prescriptive English usage rules. We need not, however, excuse his or her assholish behaviour in the other thread, where the grammar nazism on display was unnecessary and petty. We also need not excuse Tarantula’s ignorance regarding usage of the English language in other parts of the world–if you’re going to be a grammar nazi on an international bulletin board, it would behoove you to read up a bit on the global variations in English usage.
Actually, as others have already pointed out, your post in the other thread specifically stated: “Only idiots cannot punctuate correctly.”
And, by the way, it’s “grammar,” not “gammar.” :wally
A lot of people have overlooked another of Tarantula’s errors:
Shouldn’t there be a “to” in there? Just wanted to be thorough.
Its.
Thanks. I was always confused as to if it was “its” or “it’s”.
Aslan2, just remember: if you can replace the word with “it is”, then it should be “it’s”. Otherwise, it’s its.
Hey, acceptable construction; “off” is a perfectly good preposition. Obviously, what he means to say is that no end exists off which he is pissed.
Yes, but shouldn’t it be “pisses me off to no end?”
Yes, if as you construe, it means “…pisses me off indefinitely.” My point was that, as written, he was likening himself to urine and suggesting that there was no such thing as “an end” from which he was (being) pissed.
Poly, the charming and insightful Tarantula did not violate some nonexistent no-comma-after-verb rule; he violated an extremely valid no-comma-between-subject-and-verb. Please note Rule 9 here.
Look at his sentence: “he said the reason why it is impossible for people to be racist against whites, is that only white people are in the position of social power needed to enable them to act upon their racism .” Keep in mind that it is very intricate, containing several pairs of subjects and predicates, but clearly the offending comma has been inserted between the subject “reason” and its predicate “is.” I am referring, of course, to the “is” that comes after the comma.
Nonsense, SkipMagic. “However” has other functions besides that of conjunctive adverb. It is perfectly acceptable as an introductory element. I did not want that to be one sentence; I wanted it to be two. In fact, I feel that my writing relies far too heavily on compound sentences. I love semicolons, but I’m trying to cut back.
I thought that the title of my OP and my post in the General Questions thread indicated that I only wanted a discussion about grammar and punctuation. I meant you no harm. As it is, both "Yeah - whatever."and “No doubt started by one of the most stupid people ever.” are sentence fragments.
Now, just so this is cleared up right away (in case you have any doubt), I want you to know that I was just joking with you when I posted that “correction.” I really wasn’t taking any serious pot-shots at you.
That said, sugaree, even though you purposely split the original compound sentence into two, your use of “however”–although largely a style choice in informal writing–was still incorrect. While “however” does indeed function as more than a subjunctive adverb, the use of “however” to start the next sentence fit none of the other functions. All it did was make your second sentence choppy and somewhat awkward to read.
Personally, I prefer longer, compound sentences (cut back on semicolons… noooooooo!); so while it’s perfectly acceptable to begin a sentence with “however” (in its subjunctive adverb function) informally, I try to stray away from doing so. (I’ve probably failed on a daily basis, but who wants to point that out in a thread like this one? ;))
However I choose to use it in the future, though, I sure hope I don’t have snarky nutjob like SkipMagic point out my error.
Romanes eunt domus.
-It had to be said.
Asian2: Gammar rays? LOL. Well played.
Aslan2. Aslan being a character in the popular childrens series The Narnia Chronicles. And thanks.
“No, not dative! Not the dative, sir! No! The… accusative, accusative! Domum, sir, ad domum!”
You guys are too fucking funny. I love it love it love it. I especially love Asian2’s hopping, chocolate-delivering bunny.
“People called Romanes they go the house?”
Now you’re just doing it on purpose.