I just want to know. As in am curious. And dang you for posting one more 
Agreed.
Not on your life. I’m an ‘attention whore’ for having started this one. I have other questions about other things and I’ll ask them differently, and not in the Pit. And now I am gone.
Ok, so this is… intense, and I can barely keep up with the rate of posting right now, so sorry if my comments become obsolete.
Quid, I like you, genuinely like you. We bonded over neuropsych stuff and generally I agree with your positions… can’t get much better than that.
What I’m asking myself right now though, is would I like you if I disagreed with you? I think this is a relevant question, especially given the circumstances. When you initially blew up in the ‘‘Lib, I’m not Pitting you, just confused’’ thread, I was kind of right there with you, because the concepts that we have used to reduce and manage our own personal suffering (Ellis, Buddhism) are very much in line.
Basically I had very little history (as far as I knew, everyone hated Liberal for buying off prr… I was not aware it went back further than that at the time.) All I knew were that there were like 5 angry threads about Liberal (or devolving into pittings of Liberal… and here was this seemingly innocuous thread and a ginormous and seemingly out-of-nowhere and undeserved pile-on.
My point is, I get where you’re coming from. I’m a textbook bleeding heart. When people get mean and angry, my little blinkers come on, I switch into ‘‘panic mediating’’ mode and instinctually try to stop things from happening. And sometimes–yes, sometimes–I get overwhelmed by what I perceive to be patent unfairness-- and I get angry. My sense of justice is affronted. It didn’t quite exactly happen here, with me, but it clearly happened with you. Your first post in the ‘‘Liberal, I’m not pitting you…’’ thread was straight-up PISSED. And I don’t see how anyone (including you) can read that and not know it was an angry and vitriolic post in and of itself. It was angry out of a sense of injustice, but it was still angry.
So it’s not altogether unsurprising, then, that people would get pissed off back, especially considering you didn’t have the background they did. To use a really extreme example, imagine I was cussing out my parents for abusing me and someone stepped in, not really understanding how very much my parents deserved to be cussed out, and told me I was being vulture-like and mean to them. I think on an emotional level, that’s kind of what your comments meant to some people–telling them their anger was unjustified–not only that it was unjustified but that they were pieces of shit for even daring to vent that anger. And yes, that’s how it came off. I respect that wasn’t the intent. And at the time, since I pretty much agreed that it seemed unwarranted, I did not immediately perceive the vitriol of your initial post until someone reposted it in this thread.
Which comes back to my initial point: If I had not agreed with you, how would I have perceived your attitude?
And that’s where I have to honestly say: it wouldn’t be a good thing.
Now. I maintain that it wasn’t cool to jump all over Liberal’s shit in the ‘‘Liberal, I’m not pitting you…’’ thread… even if it’s for as mundane a reason as respect for the OP and him being able to get his question answered. But I also maintain that I don’t know shit and maybe Liberal really deserved it. Or something. I mean, looking at the evidence, we’ve got at least 10 people who are RIGHTEOUSLY pissed at him and another 20 who say, ‘‘I’‘m not really pissed at him but don’t blame folks who are…’’ And how many people do we have rushing to Liberal’s defense? You and me. Two people who have been here a very brief time compared to everyone else. I don’t think (correct me if I’m wrong) a single Old Salt has appeared in any of these threads and said, ‘‘Hey, back the fuck off Liberal already!’’ That to me indicated, to me, that it was time to stand back and maybe learn a little.
And I think that’s what Hentor means about hypocrisy. You were very mean in your initial post. You were. It came off as very mean and very angry, just as angry as most people are when they post in the Pit. There was really no difference between the kind of ‘‘general’’ anger you were putting out and the kind of ‘‘specific’’ anger you were pitting. And you have consistently insisted that you weren’t angry or mean when you clearly were. And I think that’s what a lot of people are finding hard to swallow.
In the world of meannesses, words on a message board are insignificant. I don’t think people are as nearly physically upset and distressed by the words written in these forums than you are imagining they are. I don’t think anybody’s health is being damaged or their souls are in jeopardy. Now, if they were walking around behaving this way in their homes, with people at work, that’d be another matter entirely. But you can’t assume people take this shit as seriously as you suspect they do.
I’m all for ending meanness, but Pit meanness is tantamount to slinging mud in a mud pit–and hell, that’s awfully fun. If you want to really address meanness you can address people who abuse others, you can address those who hold personal grudges (real grudges, not message board grudges) for years and years… but this battle is so insignificant as to be almost pointless.
I don’t say that lightly. I have been thinking about this a lot, right from the very first ‘‘Liberal, I’m not pitting you…’’ OP. I have been thinking about the function of the Pit, it’s importance to this board and its potential damage to the Universe. I have meditated on this from the beginning, in the interest of genuinely discovering whether I have a spiritual stake in what goes on in the Pit.
My findings are: No, I do not have a spiritual stake in the Pit. It’s words on a message board. Lighten up, Olives. Let your hair down and have some fun. Chill the fuck out, etc.
On preview: I guess you’re out, so I’ll stop now. I don’t know if anything I said was helpful but on the off chance it helped someone I’ll post it.
Sorry for being one post over. Perhaps there’s some stuff in here good for us all. 
That said, I’m bowing out to, especially since Red made me blush for real. And no, I didn’t have to hold any breath to achieve it, I’ve got plenty of hot air to go around. 
Well that departure lasted three minutes. You aren’t holding out for $500 are you?
:smack: Figures I’d finally get the courage to jump in after everyone has decided to leave.
Look. Perfect example of you being a condescending snotrag. Bookmark for future reference and don’t pretend you have no idea what anyone is talking about next time, OK, dear?
Where did this happen that was not the Pit? Because if it happened in the Pit, then it’s fair game, especially when Liberal was such an uber-asshole in the threads cited in this discussion (some crucials ones of which you did not read, but which you should read, and sloooooowly so it sinks in ). Fight your ignorance. Read the threads in question. He totally had it coming and your defense of him is misplaced and wrongheaded.
No, it wasn’t. You do not seem to understand how this Board works in general, how the Pit works in specific, or why Liberal was getting his ass handed to him in the thread that started this all. You should fight your ignorance before you go off and make a total ass of yourself. Or should I say, stop now and maybe people will forget what an ass you’ve made of yourself.
Yeah, I would hate to have to “have words” with you QG, you know be all mean and stuff. You’re actually getting off pretty easy here.
Some of the people responding to you can be…well let’s just say they are some of the best at scathing commentary I have ever seen.
I realise having your Giant Raging Hard-On for RedFury as your only other reference point is skewing your results there. If they let you shower with the grownups, rather than let you off gym because of gaming group meetings, you’d realise that actually, that’s an average-sized flaccid* mancock.
Your sublimated need for Hot Bald Latin Love has clouded your judgement. Which explains why you follow him all over like some kind of pointy-eared shadow.
What the fuck is that, another example of your “humour”?
This is rich.
*flaccid because you just don’t do it for me, my dear.
Now that, that was funny. Thanks muchly.
Yeh, even funnier than “I like the moon” or the Viking kittens.
Yeah, that actually made me laugh out loud. Especially since her “I’m done, definitely done” post was at the end of a page, so I had the suspense of waiting for the next page to load while wondering if Quiddity would really be able to resist the temptation to post again later on in the thread. Then there she is, first post on the next page with a little bit more pointless blah-blah to send us on our way before riding off into the sunset.
Good times.
Do you think she’ll come back if you offer to show her your tongue?
Damn you ETF, I am gonna need a new keyboard. I am almost afraid to look at your posts sometimes, because I never know when you will knock me over with a funny zinger.
Example of behavior that is pissing people off. Taking a point that’s not exactly new (difference between actor and action) and treating it like you’re bringing us your very own moral insight that – although we’ve never, ever conceived of the distinction before – will change our lives and our behavior forever, bringing both into line with your expectations (presented in an easily undertstood catchphrase newly coined by you) henceforth.
It was the timing of the post and not the content.
Your post was great, but it was rather late.
Soon enough someone else will be in a snit and bring it to the pit.
Next time join in quicker, maybe you can help end the bicker.
Jim {Sorry, it just came out quick and I decided to hit submit even after reading it}
I think the problem is that you were trying to make useful and mediating comments, when at this point we’re looking for humorous comments regarding slang for unusual sex acts.
Aren’t we? Okay, maybe it’s just me.
I’m also up for talking about Snoopy (whether or not that refers to the comic strip or an unusual sex act).
In seriousness, I don’t think QG is currently in “getting it” mode. She seems rather in “persisting with unbelievable defenses and obtuseness” mode. I’ll also cop to being more cynical than you about people in general.
olives – outstanding post. You clearly grok all.
Quid’s defense of me, combined with Left Hand of Dorkness’s assurances, helped me muster sufficient self-esteem and courage to inquire about mending years of broken fences with EddyTeddyFreddy, who was gracious enough to accept my apology. Maybe the Pit can work in ways you had not realized.
And Poly. And a smattering few others drowned out by the din.
No sorry, this thread is about Quiddity Glomfuster and deviant sex acts, get you back to your “skeptical” pedantry. 
Hentor the Barbarian, So what the heck is a “Snoopy”? Does it involve dressing like a WWI Flying Ace and pretending your partner is a Sopwith Camel?
twickster: Second Grok of the thread, excellent!
Jim