A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

One can easily misread that headline as “Trump served notice E. Jean Carroll’s lawyer can ‘get to work’ on his ass next week”. Amounts to the same thing, really. :wink:

No, I don’t think he would have someone break their kneecaps. I’m sure Trump could find any number of reasons to sue Weisselberg’s extended family or otherwise make their lives miserable. His son Barry still works for the Trump Org. after all. Throwing him under a bus wouldn’t be that difficult.

And this, too. Allen and his family benefited spectacularly from the shady goings on in Trump world. He probably thinks that was worth some jail time to avoid any repercussions in his family’s future.

Stuff like this.

He aims the crazies at someone and lets go of the leash, as he did to Pence on January 6. Or the poll workers in Georgia (though he got Rudy to do that on his behalf).

And threats.

In addition to last year’s scare in Tulsa, posts by the account have preceded several bomb threats to schools, libraries and hospitals across the country in recent years.

Yeah but he’s facing most of a year in prison (two 5 month sentences, each actually involving 100 days in prison). Neither of these things seem remotely comparable to that in terms of risk. Hell, Trumps been happily sic’ing his followers on everyone connected to this case, and the worst result so far has been a swatting. Not that there isn’t a real risk of something worse (and that isn’t the explicit intention of Trump), but as risks go compared to 9 months in prison I’d happily live with that.

Depends on his priorities though. My father, who is in poor 85, is far more concerned about the future for me, my brother, and my neice and nephew than he is for himself, despite the fact that he’s at much more of an immediate risk.

Is Weisselberg equally fatalistic at this point, considering his age and health? I have no way to know, but it’s certainly not uncommon, nor irrational.

My assumption all along is that Trump knows where Weisselberg’s family’s skeletons are buried. Offshore accounts, untaxed gains, possibly even worse.

You turn on me and just wait for the expose on all your tax evasion and who knows what else.

I mean, you think a guy who helps Trump lie, cheat, and steal isn’t himself lying, cheating, and stealing?

But unless they are actual literal skeletons any plea deal would have covered them, and Weisselberg is not dumb, he must know that (not only that, as he owes money in business fraud verdict against Trump Corp, the same people who’ll be combing through Trumps businesses will be combing through his)

Is that true? Can a plea deal include “hey, my wife has millions in offshore, illegal accounts and my son runs a criminal enterprise, but if I cooperate you’ll leave all that alone”? And if it could be done, would a prosecutor agree to it?

Can? Yes. Would? Almost certainly not.

I knew of a case where two drug smugglers pleaded guilty and gave up a lot of their ill gotten gains. The government let their elderly mother keep the house they bought for her. It was a complicated plea deal, and they had to show a lot of cooperation to get that concession.

I thought you were going to say that between the slabs of sheetrock, the house was insulated with wads of Ben Franklins…

As a Florida lawyer, I get the Florida Bar News, a monthly publication about the industry for practitioners. Much like reading obituaries, my morbid side always skips ahead to the announcements of Disciplinary Actions.

One of the people mentioned had participated in the January 6th insurrection, but only in a peripheral way, as he pleaded to a misdemeanor and received probation.

Nevertheless, the Florida Supreme Court saw fit to suspend his license for 5 years, after which he can apply for readmission.

Find a new career, fucker. You’re too stupid to practice law.

The first thing I do with a new issue of our national medical journal (CMAJ), is to check the obits.

And, the first thing (and often the only thing) I do when a new issue of our provincial professional college’s journal arrives is check out the all the disciplinary announcements.

The Orange Menace who some time ago bragged about being so rich that he had $400 million in cash and liquid assets just lying around apparently cannot even come up with the $83.3 million for the E Jean Carroll judgment, let alone the $450+ million in the New York State civil judgment. After said Orange doofus insulted the judge and then his idiot lawyer Habba doubled down on the hostility, Habba is now suddenly a lot more docile …

The fantasy headline I like to envision is “E. Jean Carroll Forecloses on Mar-a-Lago”.

I would love to believe what you say is true, and it may well be true, however I don’t think that Trump’s lawyers saying he can’t pay, and him not paying, is in itself evidence he can’t do so at this point.

As I understand it, Trump doesn’t like paying anything to anyone ever. But his general tightfistedness pales into absolute insignificance compared to the extent to which he won’t want to pay these judgements.

If Trump pays these judgements at all, ever, (and I’m not holding my breath) it will be under circumstances in which he is physically unable to prevent it. We have not yet reached that point.

That’s certainly all true, and I obviously can’t attest to the accuracy of the article, but the part that I found reeking of desperation was the request that, if the judge doesn’t rule for an extension of the stay or a reduction in the required bond, “he should at least stay enforcement of the judgment for three business days” after the expiration of the existing stay, which expires Monday.

“Three business days.” Jeez, Donnie, does that give you enough time to liquidate Bedminster Golf Club? Trump Tower? Mar-a-Lago?

I don’t think it does. It’s just another “delay, delay, delay.”

Conceivably three days is an amount of time sufficient to make a difference to negotiations over a bond. Having said that I strongly suspect three days is simply the maximum amount his lawyers dared to request.