A Pox on the Internet Connection Gods (with Ebola to Charter and @Home)

Six months ago, we had a wonderful ISP. It was a small local operation, but you could call any time of the day or night and the answering service would page them…and they would actually call you back. Not only that, but you got to speak to a real live person to begin with, even if it was only the answering service. The owners were friendly and knowledgeable and gave us a great deal on service to boot.

However, the minor demons of Southwestern Bell decided that it was perfectly acceptable for us to have so much static every time it rained that we would get disconnected every 10 or so minutes. Moreover, although our ISP would gladly have carried us on DSL, we live 100 yards away from the place where DSL stops in our area…and Southwestern Bell, in its infinite idiocy, has chosen not to extend service to our area until at least the end of 2003. (And maybe not even then, if recent news reports are correct.)

This was not acceptable, as we have a small web-based business which is doing quite well for its size, and we needed reliable, steady internet connection for uploads and maintenance.

So I had the bright idea of getting a cable modem. Mind you, due to one thing and another we rarely watch TV, so we didn’t even have cable, and never really felt the lack. However, it seemed our only option.

So in July, we bid a very sad farewell to our wonderful ISP and made a deal with the devil…Charter, and its incompetent sidekick, @Home.

Ever since then, it’s been nothing but problems. Due to schedules, my husband and I rarely get a chance to spend much leisure time gaming (i.e., we’re lucky if we get a weekend a month.) Since July, EVERY SINGLE HOLIDAY OR WEEKEND where we actually had time off and intended to spend some of it doing geeky stuff together like we used to, either our cable connection has been down OR something’s been wrong with the cable modem connection.

If it were just things like lightning strikes, floods, things beyond any human (and probably minor gods/demons) power to control, I could understand, to some degree. That’s not been the case. BUT I CAN’T UNDERSTAND OR CONDONE FUCKING INCOMPETENCE WHEN I’M PAYING $150.00 A MONTH FOR TWO CABLE MODEMS AND A CABLE SERVICE I DON’T EVEN USE! For example, I went without service for a full WEEK because the modem went bad. Although TWO different techs actually CAME OUT TO THE HOUSE, I had to all but throw a fit before they’d even check the damn modem, the maggot-eating condescending jackasses – they even made me re-install fucking Windows before they’d try a new modem. “Tech support”, in their lexicon, apparently means “We’ll let you pay us a ridiculous sum of money to support us doing absolutely nothing more than we can get away with.”

Now, @Home has gone belly up (no surprise there, if their management was even an eighth as bollixed up as their tech support departments.) Charter stepped forward and announced that they would be providing broadband instead of @Home, and that if we followed their simple, handy-dandy instructions, there should be no interruption of our internet service.

We should have known that there was no way in any netherhell that Charter could actually have made a seamless transition, but like the hopeful (and basically optionless) Hansel and Gretel we were, my husband and I dutifully did all the downloads, made all the changes and tweaked all configurations exactly like they said to do.

Guess what. As of 4:45 a.m. – BONK. No more cable connection. Surprise, surprise.

So I try to call their ‘24 hour tech support’. After AN HOUR AND FORTY-FIVE MINUTES of listening to Squeez-Cheez Christmas music while periodically being reassured that yes, SOMEONE will answer the phone and I SHOULD NOT hang up because I’ll lose my place in line, I finally give up and try the local cable (not internet) office. I actually spoke to a rather nice young lady, who assured me that she’d get a message to the tech support department to call me back.

Hah. Right. The only contact I got was a pre-recorded message that woke me up at 9:45 this morning to tell me to check out channel 26 or call a number with other questions. Well, we’d done everything on Channel 26, so I called the number. Not only was there no tech support at the number they told me to call, BUT THE FUCKING PHONE WASN’T EVEN BEING ANSWERED! If it were ANYONE but Charter we were talking about here, I’d suspect a grand plan to frustrate me into a stroke; however, their complete and total lack of ability to do ANYTHING right leaves me perfectly willing to believe that the fucktards there aren’t going to be there all weekend to answer the phone. If they hadn’t ASSURED us that we’d have a connection, I’d’ve swallowed my pride, called SWBell and gotten our computer lines turned back on and called our wonderful old ISP. But they did, and I didn’t, because we simply don’t have the money to pay for two dedicated phone lines, two ISP accounts AND the cable service and two cable accounts, not even when I can write it off as a business expense.

So here it is, Saturday afternoon. I’ve worked my ass off all week (as has my husband) so that we could get the first evening we’ve had free in SIX WEEKS to go slay some virtual critters, and we are now both sans internet connection. Thanks to Charter. I am, at the moment, on my ancient AOL account on our house’s main line (thus tying up our phone) as I try to wring some answers out of these cornholes (to no avail, as one might surmise.)

So bugger it all. Charter and @Home, may the sands of time forever find their way into every bottle of Wet or Astroglide you may use. May your cell phones irradiate your brains into glowing mush, mutate your genes to those of Godzilla and cause you to give birth to children with all the loving qualities of the Menendez brothers. May you irretrievably lose your wheel lock and have four flats on the Dallas North Tollway outside the Galleria during the Saturday afternoon before Christmas. A pox on your houses, and Ebola to you all. Bah.

(P.S. Does anyone know anything about Starband???)

I hear your pain…almost daily. I work in the computer industry and your complaint(s) are a common refrain unfortunately. The only suggestion I have to get away from the crap is to buy a T1 line and maybe share it with nearby businesses to mitigate costs. Installation is likely to be pricey and someone has to agree to host the equipment but most T1’s come with QoS agreements that surpass anything you’ll get from @Home.

I know very little about Starband but it does look cool…especially that you don’t need a phone line for the uploads. That said I’m betting the latency is murder (although I really don’t know however…just an educated guess). For web surfing that may not be too bad but for online gaming it’d majorly suck.

BTW: My wife, who I lover dearly, HATES computer games. I’ve tried in the past to get her interested but she just won’t get in the groove (partly because she really doesn’t like them very much and partly because she’s just made-up her mind that that’s be the case). Any suggestions? I just need that one game to get her hooked (kinda like the first book you ever really enjoyed reading).

I have Cox@Home…the first month was great, but after that, things went bad for a while…I had gotten the cable modem to play Everquest (yeah, I’ma geek), and I couldn’t even do that because the connection dropped like every 15 minutes…it was very frustrating…

Then, I got an email from Cox saying that there had been more demand than they had anticipated, but they were working on it…in fact, they gave my a date and time as to when these improvements would take place…I had already decided to cancel the service, but I decided to wait and see…

And it worked perfectly…Except for the 2 times this year when lightning took out my modem (luckily I rent), I have almost never had an interuption of service that did not also interupt cable TV…As a testiment to this, my telephone modem also died in one of the lightning storms, and I haven’t replaced it yet…never needed too…

@home going under kinda worries me, but my service hasn’t been interrupted yet…And I have gotten quite a few reassuring emails from Cox…After all the bitching I did about the appropriatness of their name way back, they have been a very pleasant company to deal with…Much more than BellSouth has been to my girlfriend about her DSL…

Bwahahahaha. Charter? Beyond Satanic…they’re not even worthy of Ebola.

My family has a cable modem and digital cable, both from Charter. So many problems, it’s unbelievable. We should’ve known from the beginning, when the guy who installed our digital cable strolled back into our house through a side door, two hours after leaving. “I lost my gauges.” We really should’ve let the dog rip his arm off, but no. Anyway, that evening our cable just stopped working. The moron had managed to install the cable backwards! My dad fixed that with some helpful directions from the help center person.

But still, we pressed on with the cable modem. Went through two modems because the service kept going through outages. My dad thought that maybe the line was messed up, so we got a repairman out here last Monday. Turns out the person who installed the modem (he’d split the line…I’m not really sure how that all works, but my dad’s done that before) had hooked up the modem incorrectly. The data was being sent through the wrong pipeline. The repairman was amazed that our modem had actually worked as long as it did and promptly fixed it. Much faster now. They’re even replacing our line, so that’s good. But it took them 6 months to fix it.

But Charter really needs to screen their workers. How difficult is it to check that you hooked the lines up correctly?
jessica

I finally broke down and called SWBell – we’ve got to have at least an additional line, whether or not we can afford it (try running an e-business with no e-mail! It doesn’t work. And since my husband has to be able to be reached at all hours, we can’t risk tying up the regular phone line…nor do we want to deal with interrupts from people calling in when we’re trying to upload.)

So I call SWBell. SWBell informs me that they have to have a tech out, even though we didn’t disconnect anything, to get the service working again.

It’s going to be December 11 before they can get turn our two old lines back on again. I think our old ISP will be able to kick on an account before then, so we can route the mail into that and use our main phone line…but dear bleeding jesus god. If I’d just listened to that inner voice that said “Charter couldn’t wipe its collective ass if it had GPS on the toilet paper roll”, I’d’ve already had the lines up and in my usual reasonably organized fashion, have had a backup plan for us. But nooooo, the ONE time I actually believe a business will deliver what it’s promised, wouldn’t ya know…

Jess, you’re right. Ebola’s too good for those ass-frenching spawn of syphilis-ridden one-legged whores…I’ve just been heaping invective on their heads since 4:45 a.m. and I’m starting to run out of good ideas for tortures. If you have any ideas, by all means, share. <evil :D>

And make no apologies on the geek bit. We’re both gaming geeks with no shame. I figure slaying virtual monsters or getting to RP in our RPG’s is considerably better therapy than going to a psychologist and loads more fun.

Provided, that is…one HAS AN INTERNET CONNECTION…:mad:

Oh, and Mole, to be honest, I’m much more of an RPG person than a computer-game person, although we’ve been doing much more hack n’ slash recently just because one or the other of us has been too brain dead to really RP well as of late.

If she likes to write or likes table-top any sort of game, she’d probably like some of the text-based RPG’s out there…I actually prefer those to graphics-based ones, no offense whatsoever to anyone preferring EQ or the like. :slight_smile:

If you can tell me more what she’s into, I may have a suggestion. Not to date myself, but I got into computer gaming through [sub]the old Infocom games…probably why I still like text-based RPG’s or freeform gaming…<coughchokegodIfeelold>[/sub].

Good luck, though. It’s absolutely wonderful to have a spouse who understands, aids and abets your online addictions!

I have Comcast@home. Recently they’ve increased the rates because, they claim, of their new and improved browser. Hell, I don’t even have their browser on my ME. I had it downloaded once, but when I put in a new hard drive, I didn’t bother with theirs when I have Outlook 5.5. Also, they’ve been advertising their cable modem. This when we may not be able to use it soon.

All-in-all, tho, I’ve been happy with Comcast. If they can’t continue to use @home, I’ll be screwed. Not only because it’d be difficult to go to a dial-up modem, but my computer is no longer even configured for a dial-up, and the tech guys at Dell couldn’t even get it so configured. I guess I’d then go to Knology.

The Pits award goes to the judge that said that this (severing the computer cable software) would severely affect end users, but they’re not parties to these proceedings. So, we’re not parties to those proceedings and so we can be screwed. Well, screw you, Your Honor. Perhaps we should be parties, and if not, then it’s up to you, Mr. Judge, to protect our interests.

Ok I just have to ask… why were you paying for two cable modems? We have 8 computers in our house, all connected to the internet simultaneously through one cable modem, so I am confused.

@home can bite my fat ass.The dickwads insisted they had sent letters out informing us of the possibility of losing service.Yeah right. Everyone I’ve talked to who has @home didn’t have a clue what was going on. That includes friends, neighbors and relatives.Now it may be days or weeks before I can get an Internet connection. I’m stuck being raped by AOL hell with extra charges because I have a “bring your own access” plan and those Mother Fuckers won’t upgrade me to unlimited access until my next billing cycle. I guess I should be a smidgeon bit happy that I have an AOHell account, but I’m not. If it weren’t for the facts that my kids have their fathers taste and like the piece of shit, it would’ve been banished from my home as soon as I learned to spell ISP.

I used to have MediaOne cable and internet service, I had some problems now and then but overall I was more satisfied with their service more than anything else I could find in my general area. Then AT&T show up and buy out MediaOne. Things got worse but we still connected to the internet through MediaOne so things were okay.Back in September I get a notice that I have to change my ISP to @home or lose internet service, I put off doing it untill the last minute, I knew they would suck dildoes and they did.Throughput decreased dramatically,and I was stuck with crappy modifications to my web browser that made me want to barf. The sons of bitches at AT&T made me change and now this shit happens,I’m screwed. I’m not able to get a DSL line and I don’t feel like getting another phone line to use a crappy modem connection.If I wanted to get fucked in the ass like this at least they could have warned me so I could’ve gotten drunk first and broke out the vaseline.Assholes.

I had to grab a disk for ‘1000 free AOHell’ hours from video store today. I didn’t know anything was going on with Excite until last night, those fuckers!! AND IT COULD BE UP TO 10 days until they get AT&T at home back up!!

FUCKERS FUCKERS FUCKERS FUCKERS!!!

Maybe I’m just lucky, but I have Comcast@Home and have rarely had any problems. We’ve lost a server a time or two, but that’s it in two years.

So, far it’s still up through this fiasco. If I lose it then…DSL. Comcast is several months from having its own network.

I have Comcast, too, and I’m holding my breath. I’m assuming it’ll be a matter of days before the other shoe drops. I don’t know if Comcast has the kind of money @home needs to shore it up.

Right now, I’m looking at a contract I downloaded and printed out for DSL service using a reliable and wonderfully responsive local ISP. I’ve signed it and I’ll be dropping it off at their office tomorrow so that they can get the service ordered from Qwest right away. I’m sure it’ll take at least a couple of weeks to get that running. In the meantime, we have our lousy dial-up service if we need it.

After talking to the lovely people at Southwest Cyberport (the local provider), I don’t know why I didn’t go with DSL sooner. They replied to my inquiry within 10 minutes of my sending an email, the technical person didn’t talk down to me, and the front office was cooperative and charming. We’ll also be able to have remote access from out of state for about the same amount that it cost to use a phone card to dial in to our current, non-reliable, non-responsive provider. All this, and it will cost about 10 dollars a month less than the current cable-and-dial-up arrangement we have.

Until another company that I didn’t realize even existed goes under and we get screwed once more.

I have Starband. It’s asymmetric, i.e. fast downloads (~500k/sec) slow uploads (~50k/sec). Huge latency, around 700ms ping time, so it’s useless for games or VPN, but works well for surfing and file downloads.

I’ve used Starband for about 8 months, and it’s mostly worked. OTOH, the modem drivers are really finicky & f’ked up; if I wasn’t tech-studly, the service would mostly not work on my end. The latest fun is that the Starband folks have forced all thier users to upgrade to a new modem, and I just did so a coupla weeks ago. Since then, the reliability has been total shit & I’ve seen several-times-daily outages of an hour or more, every day. Apparently I’ve been moved to a new ISP server which basically isn’t working right yet, sigh.

Oh, and if you have a problem with your Starband: tech support is very bad. Long hold times, very clueless tech support (and some of them I’ve talked to are very nice & try to be helpful, but they aren’t trained very well and can’t help with anything more basic than running an installer or rebooting your computer).

I’ll take Starband, because it’s all I can get. It’s usually better than 56k dialup, but it’s been very painful to use sometimes.

Let’s face it: there is no good broadband in the U.S… Cable broadband is apparently dying, DSL is in the hands of utterly evil telecoms who are uninterested in selling the service or supporting customers. :mad:

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I’m amazed at the stupidity myself. Apparently the thought of collecting another $50/month from people isn’t sufficient motivation for the telecoms to lift a finger. Where I live, AOL is pretty much it. The other services in the area are poor and unreliable at their best, and lack features at their worst.

Maybe the telecoms think computers are just a passing fad.

I wonder that an enterprising entrepreneur hasn’t figured a better way; I had hopes for the Dish at one time but it looks like they’re also trying to determine how to charge exhorbitant prices without actually providing anything useful.

b.

We actually were notified about the ‘possibility’ of @Home’s going under…<coughcoughlikebeingalittle bitpregnantcough>…about a week ahead of time. Charter sent it in the same letter where they assured us that we would experience no interruption in service. <coughcoughlyingshitscoughcough> I found out more about it reading the business news, though, than I ever found out from either Charter or @Home.

Being a perservering type (and desperate) I’ve spent most of the weekend trying to get hold of Charter tech support. No luck whatsoever Saturday; I really got down and determined today…and as a result spent 6 hours on hold. (Unfortunately, I’m not exaggerating – spent 2 1/2 hours on, got disconnected shortly after I got a tech, got back on again and waited…got another tech…then we realized once we got off that there was something the tech hadn’t addressed, so I had to call AGAIN…gah.) But I did speak to REAL PEOPLE, which was definitely a step in the right direction.

I’ll give the techs this: they were polite and they seemed to be trying. Unfortunately, they all had different information. <sigh> One’s saying that we’ll be up tomorrow; another’s saying it could be three to five days…I didn’t get to talk to the third long enough to find out anything much.

We’ll see. I’m not holding my breath. I am going to call our old ISP and ask about an ISDN line…I know that won’t be nearly the speed of cable, but heck, if they can get it up and keep it running, it beats having AOHell again.

I am really surprised at the lack of broadband options, though. I’d think surely there are enough users by now who have grown accustomed to the fast speeds of T-1’s at work to want something faster and more reliable for their home internet connection. What’s the situation like overseas?

My sympathies to all of you similarly affected…and good luck. :frowning:

BTW, Opal, we have two cable modems because of time factors and the location of our respective studies. The better half’s study is upstairs and completely across the house from mine, so it would be a real pain to set it all up. However, both studies had an outside wall, so it was pretty easy for them to just go ahead and go through the wall to set up the modems. We’ve talked about networking, but so far, just have not had the time, nor would we have the time to monkey with it to keep it running if we ran into difficulties. Computer geeks we may be, but not geeks familiar with networking, unfortunately.

I am very happy with my Comcast@home service, even though I might have to be cut off for a few weeks. Cable broadband is not dying here in the states, it is expanding. This excite thing is an investor problem, not an infrastructure problem.

I will put up with the crap for a while if I have to. this Excite@home thing doesn’t mean it is ending, it just means they are shuffling packets. Sure it’s a PITA, but I will put up with it.

I have never had a tech prob with my cable modem service.
Just don’t go the usb route. I didnt even install the software they gave me, just set up a TCP/IP LAN connection.
Not a single problem.

I would rather go w/o broadband for 3 months, than go back to a dialup connection.

Over the weekend, my cable modem provider, Excite@Home, finally bit the big one. They filed for bankruptcy recently, so it wasn’t too shocking. AT&T notified its customers around here (Dallas area) with a recorded phone message (email wouldn’t work, for obvious reasons). The message basically said that our service is a goner, but they were scampering to get everyone moved to their own network, which they slapped together after the bankruptcy ruling last month. We would be compensated with 2 days of free service for each day that we were down. Crap, I thought - it’ll take AT&T forever to get my service back up, but at least I’ll get a few weeks free in the process :).

But, much to my surprise, as of last night, I was back online, and working reasonably well. I couldn’t get to a lot of pages, but for the most part, it was working. However, AT&T added this to their missive:

Upstream? That aint new, no biggie. But it seems that AT&T plans to lock us down to no more than 1.5 Mbps. Before the switch I would sometimes get more than 2.5 Mbps. If this actually does “provide a faster and more consistent broadband service,” then I won’t have a problem. But if my downstream continues to dip constantly to the 500 range like it did when I was on Excite, I’ll be mad. I want to experience the peaks if I have to deal with the troughs.

Slacker,

 What if any settings did you have to change? Did they give you a new email address? @home.com was the coolist name for a email address. I'm so pissed off that I have to change. I'm still waiting for the phone call from A-T-frickin-T to tell me what to change. I'm also in the Dallas area. What pisses me off the most about the whole situation is that A-T-frickin-T owns about 30-40% of excite@home and every other cable system is making a deal with excite@home.

Another Texan?! Well howdee!

I didn’t actually have to change anything since it was all set up for DHCP before. The one thing I had to do was release and renew my IP address.

And I don’t use my email from the cable modem, but from what I understand if you were whatever@home.com, you’ll now be whatever@attbi.com. Yeah it sucks I know :slight_smile:

Let me know if you need instructions for renewing your ip address if you need 'em. Actually, only do that if you’re running some version of Windows. I don’t know Unix at all.

  • Chris S

Two other Dallas-area-ites, huh? Howdy also.:slight_smile:

Since I shared the rant, I’ll share the good – the six hours spent on hold yesterday were apparently not in vain, as the very last guy I got in touch with made it worth the two hour wait to get to him and not only called us this morning, but sent a tech out. We are up and running! And as an added bonus, since Charter apparently doesn’t have static IP addresses, we’re able to play a couple of games together over TCP/IP that we hadn’t been able to do since we got on @Home.

Just in time, too, as far as the connection goes. Forget sharing a bathroom – sharing the phone line goes WAAAY beyond that…

Anyway, hope everyone else gets up and running. Good luck and thanks for the listen. :slight_smile: Definitely saved my sanity!